Part # for factory XM Equipment?

[Vintalage]

does anyone know the part # for the factory XM equipment found in 2003 Grand Am's with XM? If not, could the dealer give me this info? I would like to get this and add it to my car's factory radio.

[jtemail]

If you ever find it, please email me with it as well. I'm actively searching for this myself. The dealers have been absolutely no help at all. It's hard to even make them understand what XM is.

[Vintalage]

I'm gonna give the dealership a call again and see if they
can give me the part # for the XM receiver. Hopefully they will.

I know exactly what you mean. I call concerning the XM and they are like huh??? They have no idea what I am talking about.

[MattBatt]

Well here is $5 worth of free advice don't go factory check out the aftermarket they will probbalby be cheaper and deffinetly will be better.
But if you insist on Delco products try http://www.gmpartsdirect.com they are cheaper than the dealership and might be able to help you with a part # if you shoot them an email.

[Vintalage]

I think I have found a place that will sell me the complete kit with everything I need to get XM radio to my factory stereo. This is a place that services Delco radios. Unfortunately, the customer service reps have left for the day so I have to call back in the morning. But I was told by the service guy that they do sell the complete kit that will work with the factory stereo. So this is probably the factory equipment. If their prices are outrageous, i'm gonna ask for the part #s for the individual XM equipment pieces.

[Vintalage]

Originally posted by MattBatt
Well here is $5 worth of free advice don't go factory check out the aftermarket they will probbalby be cheaper and deffinetly will be better.
But if you insist on Delco products try http://www.gmpartsdirect.com they are cheaper than the dealership and might be able to help you with a part # if you shoot them an email.

I have browsed through gmpartsdirect and did not find anything. So if I can get the part #s, maybe then gmpartsdirect will pull up the information.

[jtemail]

I can't find it on gmpartsdirect because they don't seem to break out radio stuff in their search ability. Their new web page also doesn't have 2003 or 2004 data yet either. I did find out the part #'s for the U1Q radio and U85 Monsoon audio system and typed them into gmpartsidrect and they do come up as available and the only description is "RADIO". I need to find the parts asscociated with the U2K option, which is XM.

I want to keep the factory config so I don't have to fiddle with a seperate piece of equipment. The XM band and display data is available on the factory head unit. Even if the cost is greater than an aftermarket solution, I may choose to do it to make things seamless. I want to know my options and cost before I go aftermarket. I have two other aftermarket units. They are great, but if I can go OEM, I'd like to.

Dealers have been mostly clueless about this though. The bottom line that I've asked parts departments is this. "What if my entire radio system was stolen? What would need to be re-ordered?". That should basically cover it. Most of them shoot you down telling you to go aftermarket, it will be cheaper. But this is without them ever finding the part # or verifying the price. They are likely correct, but let's get some numbers first before passing final judgment. I don't need the whole stereo, just the digital receiver part #.

[Vintalage]

I called a salesman to be told that it can not be done. He doesn't know what he is talking about because I was told by a parts rep that it can be done.

[Vintalage]

ok. Yes. I got the part # for the XM Digital Receiver box. The part # is:

22692861

I called the shop back that services Delco radios and was told that there are 3 pieces needed for the system to work. The XM Digital Receiver, Harness, and antenna. The Harness and antenna would have to be bought through gm. The shop sells the Digital Receiver though. They said it cost $300. That's twice the amount of an aftermarket receiver box. But aftermarket would probably cost around that price in the end as well. Lets see what gmpartsdirect will pull up. :)

[Vintalage]

hmmm, unfortunately, gmpartsdirect is not pulling up anything for that part #.

[jtemail]

Even though its twice the cost, I'm still interested. Did they give you part #'s for the antenna and harness? I'm slightly concerned about the harness itself being attainable as well. I would imagine that any antenna would do the job though.

I'm not terribly concerned that gmpartsidrect doesn't have the part #. They don't seem to have incredibly recent data.

If all of this is a bother, please post or email me the name of the shop and I'll contact them directly.

This has been very helpful information so far. This is the furthest I've gotten in days. I've got many other searches going on other forums and dealerships. Maybe one of them will turn up the same # for verification. I'll let you know when I know something.

[Vintalage]

The shop I talked to said that the harness and antenna would have to be purchased from GM. So I could not get the part # seeing as they don't stock those parts. I am going to call another shop in the morning and see what they have. The shop that I talked to is Model Electronics in Virginia. They have shops in other states too. And luckily, there is one in Pennsylvania.

Website: www.modelelectronics.com

[jtemail]

I talked to a GM dealer today who told me this was only possible using the Bose stereo (which is not an option at all) and that the unit would be a Pioneer FM modulated unit. Clearly, this is quite a challenge. I promptly explained that if they look through the vehicle options list that this is not an available option at all and that the XM unit is made by Delco!

Ugh! I'm making some minimal progress, but not very quickly. I also spoke to a nice knowledgeable radio repair place. She told me that she knew all about the XM digital reciever, but had no part # info and that she didn't expect to able to buy it as a retailer for at least another year. Going directly through GM parts counters is going to have to be the route. This makes me very sad. :(

[Vintalage]

I called a dealer parts department and asked them to check the XM part # that I have listed a few posts up. He told me that the pc pulled up nothing. He said it was not a good part #. Maybe the part is too new and the computer system has not updated yet. This is much of a challenge. I wrote Delphi yesterday asking what is needed and what the part #s were and am waiting for a response.

[jtemail]

I wrote Delphi today myself. I also called a local dealer with your part #. He found it to be in stock in Rockville, NY and one other location. However, he was unable to verify what the part actually is. He also showed that the part was discontinued in February 2003.

I have some other searches out there. There has been a pretty helpful parts guy in Canada who is doing some research on one of the other forums for Bonneville's. I'm sure its the same radio.

[Vintalage]

Originally posted by jtemail
I wrote Delphi today myself. I also called a local dealer with your part #. He found it to be in stock in Rockville, NY and one other location. However, he was unable to verify what the part actually is. He also showed that the part was discontinued in February 2003.

I have some other searches out there. There has been a pretty helpful parts guy in Canada who is doing some research on one of the other forums for Bonneville's. I'm sure its the same radio.

Yes, the Bonneville uses the same RDS Radio.

[Vintalage]

It's funny how chrysler rolled off a new navigation system and Sirus radio for early 2003 and both are already available for customers to purchase. Look at this thread on clubxm.com: http://66.246.14.172/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5034&highlight=oem

I noticed you have joined this site and posted a thread about this.

[Vintalage]

this is the response I got from Delphi:

"The only functional OE/factory XM satellite radio system in GM vehicles
(i.e. Delco/XM compatible) must be installed at the time of production and
there is no aftermarket kit available for field installation or retrofit at
this time."

If so, then why is it being sold in that shop? All I need is the receiver box and the wiring harness. I'll get the antenna myself.

[jtemail]

I got this same email from Delphi, I can see you were copied as well along with about 5 other people. Many of those 5 must have been talking to some of the dealerships I was asking to research this as well. The dealerships called me today with the same answer.

The sad part is, this is the wrong answer from a business perspective. Someone wants to buy their product and they won't let them unless they buy a whole car with it. Isn't the purpose of a business to sell a product and make a profit?

If I have to go aftermarket, I will purposely not buy the Delphi SkyFi just for spite now. This lousy response probably just sold me on getting anything but a Delphi for this car.

[klc317]

I'm not sure if any of you know about this, but I came across a company called Ventura technologies and they make an XM adapter harness that supposedly fits into the 12 pin data port of a factory GM radio. It says it works for all 2001-2003 Pontiac Grand Am models, but I'm not sure if this means Monsoon or not. This might eliminate the need for an FM modulator. I havent had my factory Monsoon radio out yet, so I'm not even positive that it has an empty 12 pin port. I would be happy to hear from anyone who knows more about this, just hoping this discovery might help. venturatechnologies.com

[MattBatt]

I know this thread has been kinda dead for a month or so but what happens if Joe Bob driving his brand new GA with XM and the radio discontinues functioning. He takes it to the shop to get it fixed under warranty. According to the dealerships you have been talking to they wouldn't be able to fix the part? This doesn't make sense.
Another point if the factory XM radio requires 3 parts and one of them costs twice as much as an aftermarket unit which would be easier to install. Why again are you trying so hard to keep the factory HU look?

[Vintalage]

I think i'll wait until 1 turns up on ebay. Going aftermarket would mean Iwould need to buy more than 1 part. Headunit, XM reciever, XM antenna, piece that makes headuint fit, and a Metra harness to get the chimes back. That would run more than the factory system when all is done.

[MattBatt]

OK point made and recieved. good luck to you.
Maybe you could call up a local dealership you havent dealt with and tell them that your car needs it's XM radio replaced and have them find out the numbers for you that way.

[Brewdogg18]

Just my two cents, but go aftermarket! I replaced my factory system in my 2000 grand am with my alpine headunit, alpine reciever and terk antenna. The sound produced by alpine is 100 times better then that of my factory cd player. I would urge you all to drop the search for retrofitting your factory system and just upgrade. You can do it cheap (through delphi for under 200 or go my way, and spend 400) you would spend about the same price for the factory equipment, and not get the awesome sound quality. And when you do become an xm subscriber, come over to xmfan.com or clubxm.com and say hi and introduce yourself!

[Jokerinc3]

I was searching for a direct kit for myself and I found a store that sells new ones for 155 shipped (before rebate). It also comes with a 50 dollar mail-in rebate through xm. Here is the link if anyone is interested. The model number is XMDGMK. http://store.xmfanstore.com/texmforgmvex.html and this connects right into the factory headunit (no mods needed), and comes w/ all needed parts for installation. If you want it I wouldnt wait to long b/c they said that they only recieved a limited supply and the item is discontinued.