What Do I Do???????? Broken wheel stud

[Pixer]

(Sorry for the Caps) I dont know what I should do. In November I ordered my Eagle Alloy 077 Chrome 18" Wheels from tiresplus. They came in and sat in my room till about a week and a half ago. When I could afford tires (Kuhmo Supras) I had them put on. They look great and ride just ok, slight wobble. After 75 miles I went back to Tirersplus and had them re-torqued like I was saposed to. Well I just went to go take them off so that I could paint my calipers and I couldnt get them off. The lug nuts were soooooo tight it was nuts. I managed to get 4 of the 5 lug nuts off but I just couldnt get the fifth off. So I borrowed a tool (pic 1) to get them off and the "spoke" (pic 2) ( I really dont know what the names for these things are) broke off inside of the lugnut. (pic 3) So my question is: What do I do? Is it Tirespluses falt? Is it my falt? I mean what should I do? I really rreally need help ASAP. Thanks for the help.

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[AMRAAM4]

Welcome to my world of the Eagle 077!!! Although my lug nut got stuck in the hole of the wheel causing the threads on the stud to shear off near the back of it.

Info for you...AN AIR WRENCH SHOULD NEVER BE USED AT ALL! If someone else is applying your wheels make sure they know that, but me, I don't let anyone else take them off or put them on because they are tricky.

Through the wheel on, make sure the other 4 are tightened to 100lbs torque, and drive it to a place to get the stud fixed. Will cost about $75. Don't drive like an idiot either.

[Dan00GPGT]

My guess is that someone may have cross threaded the lugnut. If that's not the case, then someone got wayyyy to aggressive with the air wrench. Are you sure when you used the air wrench you didn't have it in reverse? In other words, you were tightening it more? An air wrench is a bad idea for any set of wheels. They should always be torqued with a torque wrench to the proper specs. You should also hand thread the lugnuts on until they are started before you use ANY wrench on them. A breaker bar may have solved your problem better than that air wrench. You could also have tried penetrating lubricant to get them loose.

I posted the procedure to replace these yourself on the board but someone said it can't be done without removing the entire hub... I honestly don't know if that's true or not. Good luck.

[ZakkWylde470]

It's not an air-impact gun, it's an electric one :thumbs:

[BMOBYLE]

Electric or neumatic it is still an impact gun!!!

If your handy it's not that bad to replace at all.

It was infact the place that "retorqued" those lugs for ya.

If you want to do it yourself it will only cost ya like $5 bucks and 20 mins of your time. Pm me if you need help.

[Molson]

ya, do it yourself. Just hammers out.

Do you have the hubcentric rings for your rims??

[Pixer]

No I dont have lugcentric lugs, I seriosly think its an issue that AMRAAM4 told me about how I ordered 5x115 and although thats what the box says, their really 5x114.5 I would love to give it a wirl myself, what kind of tools do I need

[Dan00GPGT]

Originally posted by Pixer
No I dont have lugcentric lugs, I seriosly think its an issue that AMRAAM4 told me about how I ordered 5x115 and although thats what the box says, their really 5x114.5 I would love to give it a wirl myself, what kind of tools do I need

Maybe BMOBYLE can elaborate on this but I posted repair info in another thread here:

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8795&highlight=hub

Someone said you need to remove the entire hub assembly although I'm not sure that's true or not? The service manual didn't say anything about that sooooo.... :confused: Good luck with the fix.

[SPAZ]

It's an EASY fix yourself, if you need part numbers or info on how to replace let me know. I sheered off 3 just by tighting them by hand ( that means with a 4-way lug wrench )

PM me, if you want help !!!!!!

[AMRAAM4]

SHlT...I'm willing to go at it myself and fix the wheel stud. I got a quote of $75 to fix it. 95% of that was labor charge!

I'm pretty good working with wheels, sooooo maybe I can do it. Dunno if I have appropriate tools though, no C-clamp thingy I hear of.

Anyone think Western Auto ws bulllllll****ting me on the hub removal being necessary?

[thehemi]

I just broke a front lug on my '96 GA SE.
Never used any air tools to rotate tires.

Going to pickup a stud today (hopefully)
and repair it this weekend. I have done
it on trailers, but not cars, but friends tell
me that it will not be a big deal.

[Tweeter]

I am with Spaz, I have broke 3 now with hand tools. Not that bad to replace.

[papiogagt]

htis happened to me when i was out in michigan, just went to napa, bought a new stud, pounded the broken one out, put the new one through as far as it would go and then put some qashers under the lug nut and pulled it through by tightening the lug.. worked perfect..

and mine happened cuz the threads got cross threaded and stripped..

[PontiacGT2K]

Reminds me of when we did brake-work on my car the week before it was totalled. For some odd reason, one of the studs was fused on like a muv.....we finally had to just snap it off.

What Mfuller and I did was hammer it out, and put a new one in. Worked just fine....for the next week.

[sound_xtreme]

damn, i always use an impact gun on mine(not Eagle 077's). and i have never sheared a bolt off, havent ever done it by hand either. thats nuts you guys have broke that many.

[AaronGTR]

Yep, those were way over torqued. You can see the threads on the other ones are all mangled up too. I'd replace all of them that look like that and get some new lug nuts too. Don't let anyone use an impact gun on your wheels! Beside the fact that it'll damage the studs, they can also scratch your finish. Torque 'em yourself. Also, if you do it right you shouldn't need to constantly re-torque them. I've checked mine after going and driving a short distance and they never change.

[thehemi]

What size socket do I need to remove the hub?
I picked up a 1-1/8 and it was still not enough!

Do not remember any bigger deep sockets at
Sears, but I might go check again tomorrow...
(Or break down and pay someone to fix it).

[AaronGTR]

You don't need to remove the hub. Just hammer the studs out with a big hammer and a punch pin. Put the new ones in and draw them in tight with a nut and a stack of washers.

[thehemi]

I did not have too much time to mess with
the car. Local shop did the swap for $42.

[2kramairGT]

Have to bring this one back to life....

Anyway broke a driverside rear stud off last night and took off the rotor to see if i could tap it out and put a new one through like i did on the front. BUT, The ebrake or disc brake backing stuff is in the way. I tried to remove the hub assembly but couldnt figure out how to get it off after removing the 4 bolts. I need some help here.

Anyone replaced a rear driverside wheel stud before?

[2kramairGT]

Im impatient I guess, but driving on a spare with only 4 lugs for 80miles of highway per day isnt good.

Please help.

[MantaGreen97]

Yeah I've had a number of wheel studs broken both because of shops over tightening them with an air wrench and because of wheel tilt when removing.

The first is easily solved, no shop will ever remove or put on wheels on my car any more--EVER. If I need a wheel balanced or a tire repaired, I take the wheel(s) off myself and give them it just like that, off the car.

The second problem is easily handled by the purchase of (pretty cheap) hubcentric rings if your rims have a larger hub opening than your car, and by holding the wheel correctly when removing it. The rings simply make sure the wheel is on the hub instead of on the lugs. When the wheel is being removed, if it is held against gravity by the lugs instead of the hub then the pressure can lead to a lug crossthreading. Also be sure to hold the wheel firmly against the disc/drum (even if it is hub-centred) until you have all the lugs off, that way the tilt of the wheel due to gravity will not lead to a situation which might crossthread a lug.

The good thing about our cars is that they have 5 lugs so even if you break one stud off, you can still drive around with 4 holding the wheel on and be safe. (Can't say that for 4 lug Civics, lol ). So if you need to drive somewhere to get the stud replaced or whatever, you'll be fine on just 4 lugs.

[Black Z28]

you do not have to remove the hub (front or back) just take the e-brake off rotate the assembly till the stud is lined up with an opening and pound it out. it'll take a few tries, but you'll get the old stud out and the new one on. draw the new one in with a lugnut. i had to replace rear and front studs when i had my gagt.

[2kramairGT]

Thanks for the reply. When you say take the ebrake off, does that mean remove something from the car, or just have the ebrake handle in the off position???

THanks, but sorry for the stupid question. I wanna think this through before take everythign apart again.

So then all that needs to be remove is the caliper bracket with caliper and the rotor. Then i should be able to turn the hub so the stud has an opnening behind it? without removing anyting further. If i have to remove somethign else please give me info on what and how. Thanks man.