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jaketuff
09-09-2002, 09:37 PM
Who would buy a GM SC Kit from GM?

With these characteristics ...

1. With a limited warranty when bought from the GM High Performance Catalog - 12,000 miles.

2. With a FULL recalibrated computer (PCM) for the SC.

3. A gross increase in power of 40% base HP. 70 horses.

4. Eaton M62 Based SC, Roots Style.

AT A COST OF $3,995 (plus installation)

JOUT

Kitt
09-09-2002, 09:49 PM
hell should have added a vote for maybe.. just want a little more power out of that kind of budget.

Irate
09-09-2002, 10:57 PM
You should have added a "Hell no beotch, I'll just pimp the RSM thang" part to the pole... you know, the whole centrifugal thing and PCM included...

[edit]pat, you're not looking to ditch yours, are you? :confused:

RAMAIR1
09-09-2002, 11:17 PM
Maybe if it was a dealer installed option or if it came from the factory that way...I would pay 25,000 for a brand new S/C GT. Let that S/C get absorbed into the car payments? Yeah, that I would do...just don't have the 30,000 it would take to do a GTP!

romneym
09-10-2002, 12:20 AM
N-body advertises one for $3k for 60 ponies. Dollar for dollar, that is cheaper. Although, overkill rules requires we spend ANY amount necessary for each additional pony, no matter the cost!!!

I'll take the 70, but overturn it and give me 85 would be better!

Romney
GAGT1BlackNight

Irate
09-10-2002, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by romneym
N-body advertises one for $3k for 60 ponies. Dollar for dollar, that is cheaper. Although, overkill rules requires we spend ANY amount necessary for each additional pony, no matter the cost!!!

I'll take the 70, but overturn it and give me 85 would be better!

Romney
GAGT1BlackNight
All of these numbers are theoretical... I would be a little skeptical of someone's claims from N-body...

Roush GT
09-10-2002, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by jaketuff
Who would buy a GM SC Kit from GM?

With these characteristics ...

1. With a limited warranty when bought from the GM High Performance Catalog - 12,000 miles.

2. With a FULL recalibrated computer (PCM) for the SC.

3. A gross increase in power of 40% base HP. 70 horses.

4. Eaton M62 Based SC, Roots Style.

AT A COST OF $3,995 (plus installation)

JOUT

do you know something we don't?

jaketuff
09-10-2002, 09:27 AM
Just think of this as a guage for enthusiasm and demand for the Magnacharger SC. I am sure that GM still has this kit in their minds and the ability to produce a limited run of kits may not be completely out of the question for the GAGT.;)

So post what you think guys!

Pat

Travis99Gt
09-10-2002, 10:02 AM
If I had anywhere REMOTELY that amount of money I would be all over it, but I would be saving for months before I could. Have too many other things to fix(ALLLLL visual) before I can start on high end engine mods :(

aleroboy
09-10-2002, 10:35 AM
Well I'd vote yes just to get more out there for us. so the people that would buy it can buy it. It would be somthing I would seriously consider. I've done almost every other bolt on so why not? I'm sure it would also produce more power because of the computer reprogram.

RSM is raising prices and the kit isn't as neatly put together as GM would do. Plus it would be nice to have a choice of what to buy instead of being stuck with one type or company.

peeps
09-10-2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by RAMAIR1
Maybe if it was a dealer installed option or if it came from the factory that way...I would pay 25,000 for a brand new S/C GT. Let that S/C get absorbed into the car payments? Yeah, that I would do...just don't have the 30,000 it would take to do a GTP! agreed.....

GreenGT3
09-10-2002, 01:14 PM
I really like the idea of a S/C from GM more than the RSM one. For just one reason......12,000 mile warranty! Plus i bet that warranty will cover the whole engine and powertrain. At least that is what I read about the s/c package for the cavilier in some magazine. I do like the numbers that the RSM S/C is showing but still I'd rather have a warranty for the whole engine and trans.

Green

MetaGTP1
09-10-2002, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by SilverGT1


do you know something we don't? Anything is possible, with the right amount of enthusiasm.:boogie:

aleroboy
09-11-2002, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by mr_eh
if it fits onto the 2.4... then *nod* ..

Umm Gm makes the one for the 2.4L
Just waiting for Alero/Ga kit to come out

grandGTR
09-11-2002, 10:01 PM
Only big catch there is the coverage. I mean if it is GM it should not effect the warrent in anyway.. And even be covered under the extension if one choses to buy that.

The added power is nice, but you can pull more power out of other mods for that amount of cash, unless it was fully covered, then that would make the decsision easier.

Didn' that kit released already cause problems for some users? I mean there were only 10, so that is not good.

MetaGTP1
09-11-2002, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by grandGTR
Only big catch there is the coverage. I mean if it is GM it should not effect the warrent in anyway.. And even be covered under the extension if one choses to buy that.

The added power is nice, but you can pull more power out of other mods for that amount of cash, unless it was fully covered, then that would make the decsision easier.

Didn' that kit released already cause problems for some users? I mean there were only 10, so that is not good. The 10 or so kits produced by Magnuson Products, were made to feel out the market for an SC kit. The kits were 'Pre-Production' models and the response was not good. The problems were not huge, just a few minor bugs. ;)

mr_eh
09-11-2002, 10:13 PM
the gm one is made for the 5 spds

2000GA
09-12-2002, 12:02 PM
If I had a full time job and was not in college then i would be buying it because it would be very unique item to have. Also If i was to be any SC I would buy it from GM even if it was 500 more than another company because they made the car so they know its limits and they would be able to properly test it without having someone volunteer their car for it and end up needing a rebuild.

AMRAAM4
09-12-2002, 12:24 PM
Hmmmm, how about just buying a used one with it already setup and with many other performance/visual mod's like.....oh I don't know....SC/T hood, 18" Eagles, tint, Borla, H&R's...for like $17-18,000 with 23,000 miles and mint????? :D :eek:

grandGTR
09-12-2002, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by AMRAAM4
Hmmmm, how about just buying a used one with it already setup and with many other performance/visual mod's like.....oh I don't know....SC/T hood, 18" Eagles, tint, Borla, H&R's...for like $17-18,000 with 23,000 miles and mint????? :D :eek:


Where can you get a used reporgam and SC for a GA?

AMRAAM4
09-12-2002, 12:46 PM
MY CAR!:thumbs:

grandGTR
09-12-2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by AMRAAM4
MY CAR!:thumbs:


Dam 18K is it a 02 I geuss? Why you selling a brand new car? The value on the GAs sucks. :( They are jus tnot worth much. lol.

AMRAAM4
09-12-2002, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by grandGTR



Dam 18K is it a 02 I geuss? Why you selling a brand new car? The value on the GAs sucks. :( They are jus tnot worth much. lol.

Go buy a used, mint 2000 GAGT1 with 23,000 miles, add all I have and see how much it costs you....it would be about the price of a new 2003.

grandGTR
09-12-2002, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by AMRAAM4


Go buy a used, mint 2000 GAGT1 with 23,000 miles, add all I have and see how much it costs you....it would be about the price of a new 2003.

LOL I gt my 00 new fully loaded (minus leather :( ) for 16K roalded off the lot. :) That was the first of 01, so I got that good end of year clearance. :) ya me... The problem is that what you add does nothing to the value of the car really. I mean you took off the rims an dput on new ones, you replaced the new exhaust with another new one and so on... the cool thing is to find tha tone dumb kid that will pay a fortune for it and then yo uare set. :) I have seen som epeople buy cars customize and get goo dmoney in return, but most get well the vlaue of the car...

Sorry for diverting the subject for a post or two. lol

AMRAAM4
09-12-2002, 02:10 PM
true, mods to a car are worth nothing if you are selling/trading to a car retailer. That's why if you have a nice ride you sell it privately. That way you either find some little puke who daddy is gonna buy the car for, or someone who appreciates the car and wants what you have over what he will get on the stock ride at the dealer. If I were to sell my car in an advertisement paper and explain its uniqueness (SC), I can bet iw ould get at least $17,000 for it. I'd be nuts to trade my car...they wouldn't give me more than $11,000 for it....and then turn around and sell it on the lot for what I just said!! That would be $6000 profit.

I can see it now at some big dealers lot up on a rack with some writing on the window. "Special Edition" or "Concept Grand AM" blah blah blah. They'd milk that sucker.

Anyway....back to the SC and GM posting :D

grandGTR
09-12-2002, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by AMRAAM4
true, mods to a car are worth nothing

Ya I had my jeep up for sale (5" lift 35" tires, SC, borla, Jaccobs, Jet, p/p throttle, 18 neons, 22 speakers, custom paint, three tops, bursh guard, step vbars, tub bumper, 4.0, Dodge tranny, and clean... I put i tup for only 4K over the resale value and two month slater no buyers. Ya it in auto trader and everything. Even had someone drive from Texas to check it out. lol.

Well I bought my GA and needed the money asap, so I droped it down an dstill no buyer. then I go to pick her up at the store where I kleft it with the sale sighn, and no more stereo all of it got yanked. During the day and the back of a busy parking lot! I was shocked. Well sorry for the story, but it sold for 1K bbelow value. :(

grandGTR
09-12-2002, 02:21 PM
Anyway what do you know to post up this thread? I mean this is an interesting topic. :)

I mean if GM is going to offer a SC odds are it will be for the new GTO (isn't that sitll coming out). Maybe if it is the same engine then we will be in luck.

Doesn't the GTP have a full warrenty? If so then the GA should too (on a newly purchased car).

jaketuff
09-13-2002, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by mr_eh
the gm one is made for the 5 spds

Not exactly... they considered the SC far after the 5spd was 'case closed.'

OUT

Jason E
09-13-2002, 08:19 AM
I wouldn't buy it now...but within a couple years? Hells yeah :) My reason is simple...grad school must come before a supercharger. But by '04, I'll be done, and at that point the '05 GAs will be just about out...I want to keep my car, but if a new one is putting out 250hp, I may be tempted to swap. BUT...if I can throw $4,500 or so at my car with installation and make the same 250? Where can I sign up??? :D

Do that and an SLP exhaust to help things out, and my car would be MEAN :) The ONLY thing I really wish the car had besides a 5 or 6 speed was about 230-250hp. I know I know, these cars are pretty quick stock. But what is quick? Mid 15s? Thats family sedan territory these days...look at the '03 Accords, new Altimas and the new Mazda 6 coming out. Maybe I'm jaded...coming out of nothing but F bodies, anything feels a little down on power.

To answer the question...yes I would buy it, just give me 2 years!! AND, I'd rather pay more for a GM system with a warranty rather than an aftermarket one...piece of mind is good.

peeps
09-13-2002, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by mr_eh
and are you sure the gm supercharger isn't for 5spds only? cause if not i'd def get that with a warranty - you can't lose Maybe you are thinking of the 2.4, not the 3.4....

mr_eh
09-13-2002, 06:59 PM
yes i am thinking of the 2.4 since gm never released a supercharger for the 3.1 or 3.4

WOLF
10-12-2002, 10:16 AM
Especially since it has a warrenty and will not likely void the current warranty on my car.

Stick another brand on there and you can kiss your warrenty good by.

Plus I like some of the added features that are included, I just nedd the cash to buy it, but if ther is a kit like that right now I can get and your not pulling my leg, I'll go for it.

So is there one? O_o

romneym
10-17-2002, 12:52 AM
When are they just going to boost the power output of the naturally aspirated motor to 250 ponies? After that, then let's talk SC or Turbo.

mjhurley1
10-24-2002, 06:07 AM
I would definatley buy one.

Tom2K2GAGT
10-24-2002, 02:56 PM
I would buy one, if I could get it installed by the dealer or a qualified mechanic, and be warrantyed. I would have no idea how to go about hooking it all up myself. I would get one even if I could not go through GM directly, I just have no idea where to go about having it installed for me. We definitely need more horses stock then 175. I mean its a quick car stock, but I would like to see more like 200 ponies.

Later from Tom

WOLF
10-24-2002, 07:59 PM
Kind of sucks when you know that a Satarn L300 V-6 can just barely out run us, but that car is surpisinly good in its own right since I tested one of the new 2003 models.

But then once you think of our compition its not like we are going against the WRX which is like sitting in one of those tiny VW Golf's, or a RSX. I'm actually a bit surprised on how the GAGT performs compaired to a car like the Civic SI, which weights over 300lbs less (2744lbs vs. 3120lbs) than our cars and has about the same power plus a manual and we are only just a few tenths off from being as quick or faster than them. Shed 300 pounds form our GA's and I'd like to see how much faster are cars would be. Oh, add a manual in there too.

It really makes me wonder how quick the gen. GA's will be. I'm guessing if they stick to 240-250hp and a 6-speed I'll be willing to bet my Corvette that it will run low 6's to high 5's 0-60 with a 1/4 mile in the mid 14 range. That will get my attention no dought.

Doug
11-01-2002, 02:26 PM
No :) because I don't have a 3.4L and I have a turbo :)

DeuceGT
12-10-2002, 12:06 PM
yeah, i would buy one, but i would have to save for months! i would really like one, but i also want it to be a more of a unique thing...i dunno, but yeah i'd be all for it.

~steve

CaliGrandAM
02-11-2003, 07:19 AM
2004 grand am is going to have something like 250hp and 260 trq in a 3.6 dohc engine. Not sure if true, just heard the rumor.

Why not just wait and do a trade in instread of s/c ?

MetaGTP1
02-11-2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by CaliGrandAM
2004 grand am is going to have something like 250hp and 260 trq in a 3.6 dohc engine. Not sure if true, just heard the rumor.

Why not just wait and do a trade in instread of s/c ? The '04 GA will not have a 250 hp 3.6L DOHC V-6. That is wrong. :nono: :nono:

Chaotic Reality
03-16-2003, 11:45 AM
I'd have to save...and get out of college, which is a year away. I may have a lot of the bolt on stuff done by then though hopefully.

-Jon

Scott R. Mraz
03-19-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by KmanGT1
The '04 GA will not have a 250 hp 3.6L DOHC V-6. That is wrong. :nono: :nono:

I think he was refering to the 05 and mistakenly said 04. Not that those numbers are accurate for the 05 either. But hey, he's close :)

alerov6
04-19-2003, 08:42 PM
Shoot I would just gimme time to save that much $$$$$

Bumpin2000GAGT
04-27-2003, 02:49 AM
sure, why not? i'm down. been thinking about putting on an sc before i even bought the car.

fschambe
05-07-2003, 11:28 AM
TELL ME WHERE TO MAIL THE CHECK!!! Well, a FULLY recalibrated ECU to work with the boost would be a godsend, I would assume you'd have to have it GM Dealer installer to have full warranty on it, and then for us people with remaining warranty (or add-on extended) it has definite appeal!

didipassyou
05-08-2003, 08:28 PM
hell if it fits a 95 id have to save.. but id deff spit out the cash for that.

dearim
05-28-2003, 02:56 PM
I'd love to, but I'd most definitely have to save as well.

If it were a GM product, I'd trust it more than I would the RSM kit, too.

deadhorsey
07-28-2003, 10:54 AM
Well that's an awful lot of money, but I do really like the idea of the warranty and the reprogrammed PCM for it! Add a new exaust to it and that would really move! Anyone know about how much it would cost for installation? I would do it myself, but I just don't have the time - and I'd probably skrew it up.

deadhorsey
07-28-2003, 11:08 AM
What about the trans? Wouldent you half to worry about blowing it with all of that power? Even if you put in a bigger cooler, if you put the petal down with that much power it might blow, right?

Black2K1GT
07-28-2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by dearim
If it were a GM product, I'd trust it more than I would the RSM kit, too.

:stupid:

kubiache
07-28-2003, 06:47 PM
I'm hoping (though not holding my breath) to get boost by next summer. And yes, if the specs rated near RSM and included the proper programming, I would most definately buy from GM. Hopefully someone there is listening.

wayne
10-18-2003, 01:34 PM
ii'd buy it from GM,though i'dprobably have to wait 12-18 months till i have the cash.

deadhorsey
10-19-2003, 12:04 AM
Compared to what the **** burners have, it would probably be a better business decision to just release a redesigned GA. With or without a supercharger, it needs to haul ass. I'm talking 0-60 in around 6.5. 0-60 in "under" 8 seconds isn't crap compared to something like the dodge SRT-4. The 3400 is capable of so much more, it's a shame GM is dragging their asses on this. I think in 05 a SC'd GA could do quite nice, but it would need a heavier trans.

Hexx
12-07-2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by deadhorsey
Compared to what the **** burners have, it would probably be a better business decision to just release a redesigned GA. With or without a supercharger, it needs to haul ass. I'm talking 0-60 in around 6.5. 0-60 in "under" 8 seconds isn't crap compared to something like the dodge SRT-4. The 3400 is capable of so much more, it's a shame GM is dragging their asses on this. I think in 05 a SC'd GA could do quite nice, but it would need a heavier trans.

gotta love mopar =D

deadhorsey
12-07-2003, 10:34 AM
Has anyone here done anything as drastic as a SC, without swaping the trans? I'd be interesed in how your trans is holing up.

The ri ce racers are always modding the hell out of their cars, without modding the trans.

I'm still thinking about a SC, but I don't want my trans falling out after I put it in.

FORTEEN3GT
03-30-2004, 06:13 AM
if they produce a sc for the 05 or 04...will it bolt up to the 99-2004???

deadhorsey
03-30-2004, 04:51 PM
If you go to www.rsmracing.com, there's a sc for our 3400. But it's near 5 grand for it! So for me, that's out of the question...

Has anyone seen any options for us as far as camshafts go? I figured since $5,000 isn't in my budget, cams are the next best option.

I love my GA, I just think it really needs more power! :thumbs:

Wildisme
07-12-2004, 01:01 AM
replyin to jaketuff in da begining how about addin about another grand and add a lil more then 3x that HP upgrade. dats right up it 250Hp @ 6psi for $4,800 without instalation but included with all nessesary upgrades so u don't blow ur engine up. E-mail me if u want to know where ta get it. Wildisme02@hotmail.com. Subject: grand am SC. Ya'll welcome

shoretsuHADAN!
07-14-2004, 04:26 PM
I'd buy this right now, yes I would, give me that option and I would get that so fast it would make your head spin

Knappy1
07-14-2004, 08:37 PM
replyin to jaketuff in da begining how about addin about another grand and add a lil more then 3x that HP upgrade. dats right up it 250Hp @ 6psi for $4,800 without instalation but included with all nessesary upgrades so u don't blow ur engine up. E-mail me if u want to know where ta get it. Wildisme02@hotmail.com. Subject: grand am SC. Ya'll welcome


What are you talking about? You can't gain 250hp at 6psi of boost on this engine. That would make the car 425hp with 6psi...not gonna happen. But, let us all know what you think you found. Just post it all up, so we don't all have to email you individually.

AMRAAM4
07-14-2004, 08:55 PM
What are you talking about? You can't gain 250hp at 6psi of boost on this engine. That would make the car 425hp with 6psi...not gonna happen. But, let us all know what you think you found. Just post it all up, so we don't all have to email you individually.
All he found was someone who sells RSMs kit, he just doesn't know it or will accept :rolleyes:

Wildisme
07-14-2004, 10:36 PM
im sry every one but i checked up some more on the kit. I was wrong and plz forgive me for showing u all wrong. It is an rsm kit from a website. BUT even though it does put ur car at 250hp all together, It says a gain of 250hp in the website.

FORTEEN3GT
01-27-2005, 07:31 AM
also if it is purchased from a GM dealer you can put it on a GM Goodwrench Credit Card and pay 20 percent interest! not bad for those w/o cash flow!

i would buy it ....may take me 6 months to save the extra cash...but i would buy! definately

FORTEEN3GT
01-27-2005, 07:34 AM
i think the new G-6 (which uses the 3.5, a motor layed out the same as the 3400) will likely eventually get an SC option hopefully soon.....so we can take advantage....i am waiting. in the meantime...... CAM IT!

Babalouie
01-27-2005, 10:15 AM
The RSM kit is on sale for $3315.00 US until March 1st. Thats 15% off from $3900.00. Great deal!

AaronGTR
01-27-2005, 10:29 AM
Very good deal... also I'm almost positive GM will NOT be making any kind of SC for the 3.5L. Two reasons, 1) people with the 3.5L engine will mostly be looking for economy, and 2) there will be a 3.9L engine available in the performance GTP model with a 6spd manual tranny and LSD, so why would GM waste time making performance parts for the 3.5?

KPimm
01-27-2005, 12:51 PM
Very good deal... also I'm almost positive GM will NOT be making any kind of SC for the 3.5L. Two reasons, 1) people with the 3.5L engine will mostly be looking for economy, and 2) there will be a 3.9L engine available in the performance GTP model with a 6spd manual tranny and LSD, so why would GM waste time making performance parts for the 3.5?
That's exactly the kind of thinking that lead to low aftermarket production for the 3400. So basicly you think the G6 is going to end up just like the GA when it comes to aftermarket. I agree, but it still sucks for those who want the G6 for its looks and want it to be fast.

AaronGTR
01-27-2005, 07:08 PM
That's exactly the kind of thinking that lead to low aftermarket production for the 3400. So basicly you think the G6 is going to end up just like the GA when it comes to aftermarket. I agree, but it still sucks for those who want the G6 for its looks and want it to be fast.

The difference is the 3400 was the best engine available in the grand am. If people want a fast G6 they'll get the G6 GTP with a 3900, not a G6 GT with a 3500. It only makes sense.

Hexx
01-28-2005, 06:39 AM
The difference is the 3400 was the best engine available in the grand am. If people want a fast G6 they'll get the G6 GTP with a 3900, not a G6 GT with a 3500. It only makes sense.

Yeahp....because why pay MORE money to make a non boosted car boosted? It's a PITA really. If you want boost, get a Colbalt SS.

FORTEEN3GT
01-28-2005, 08:02 AM
The RSM kit is on sale for $3315.00 US until March 1st. Thats 15% off from $3900.00. Great deal!

whats shipping to texas? income tax time!!!

TO2FST
01-28-2005, 08:07 AM
Contact RSM Racing for shipping info.

FORTEEN3GT
01-28-2005, 08:08 AM
The difference is the 3400 was the best engine available in the grand am. If people want a fast G6 they'll get the G6 GTP with a 3900, not a G6 GT with a 3500. It only makes sense.

what does the 3900 look like...is it set up the same.... would the SC kits fit similiar?? i havent seen one.

AaronGTR
01-28-2005, 08:26 AM
what does the 3900 look like...is it set up the same.... would the SC kits fit similiar?? i havent seen one.


Your guess is as good as mine. I've only seen the 3500 up close. Haven't got a good look at the 3900 yet. I can tell you there is more different on the 3500 than just the bore and the upper intake manifold, compared to the 3400. They had a 3500 engine at the detroit autoshow that I spent a good 10min looking at. It was in a case though so some things were hard to see. It has a cast exhaust manifold with seperate primary's similar to the grand prix's mani instead of the old log style. Some of the front accessories and pulleys have been moved around, and there were some new mounting bosses with threaded holes on the back of the block that aren't present on my block. These will probably be used for mounting the engine/accessories in other platforms (minivan or small truck maybe?). The significance of this is that it means the definitely had to make new casting molds for the block. Probably had to make it bigger to add material around the cylinder walls since the 3400 was already close to maxed out, and they needed room to bore for the 3900. It looks like most or all of the original mounting holes are still there though, so it could be possible in the future to take a 3900 block and internals and retro-fit it with 3400 running gear and mount it in a GA. It's hard to say for sure without a closer look at the engine.

FORTEEN3GT
01-28-2005, 08:30 AM
but.... if someone mad an SC Kit that mounted on the passanger side... available for the Grand Am, Alero, Malibu, G6, G6GT, and G6GTP........ they would do pretty well...do to the volume of cars on the road!

All they would need to change is piping/coolant tank locator/ and pulley setup slightly/ mounting brackets for each model / and pcm tuning for each one?

sounds good to me..... and without the shaft the price might drop to around 2800-3200 max! just a suggestion.

Pontiac Ghost
02-06-2005, 10:04 PM
Maybe if it was a dealer installed option or if it came from the factory that way...I would pay 25,000 for a brand new S/C GT. Let that S/C get absorbed into the car payments? Yeah, that I would do...just don't have the 30,000 it would take to do a GTP!






agreed

aleroboy
02-07-2005, 08:57 PM
for those wondering here is a pic of the 3900
as you can see biggest problem is that they moced the airbox to the other side
its pretty packed in hopes of getting a sc under the hood
I had one idea but the gtp models have a traditional power steering pump instead of the electric units the gt has.
a top mount sC would be best.


http://www.g6board.com/board/files/3900.jpg
http://www.g6board.com/board/files/3900small.jpg
http://www.g6board.com/board/files/3900headbtmsmall.jpg

FORTEEN3GT
02-08-2005, 07:29 AM
i still say you can fit a blower to the passanger's side and have it hang over to the belts.... kinda like where the current 3400 coolant tank is located? it should work on all 3X00 engines including the 3.5 and 3.9

belt/pulley positioning or specific mounting may be different for each model but not that different. also as far as intake...... just run a intercooler to where the stock intake on the 3400 is located..... no need for a drive shaft with this kind of setup. and there is plenty of room to mount the blower.

hell... if you can mount an engine mount there with that much strain... you sure can mount a SC

AaronGTR
02-08-2005, 01:31 PM
I'm sure it could be done. Question is would it be worth it? The kit for the grandam required moving/changing a lot of parts from other systems to accomodate the blower. On this engine it looks like there would be even more. There are 2 coolant hardline running in front of the valve cover now instead of one, the exhaust manifolds are larger, and the front cover has been changed a lot. They moved around a lot of the accessories and pulleys, and added a few things. You'd have to ditch the engine cover I'm sure, and change the intake. First thought would be to put it on the drivers side where it used to be, but it looks like they moved the fuse box forward, and put the PCM in the engine compartment instead of under the dash. I hate when they do that too... how's it supposed to stay protected in there.

lastyear4gt
07-07-2005, 04:20 PM
Hell Ya, I Would Go Into Work Tomorrow And Order It!!

Blight
10-02-2005, 12:26 AM
Id rather have a company make a kit for a car which all models come N/A because it makes it a rare car to own when you can install a charger on something no one else in your town will have too.