2nd Annual Noonan Meet

[mjhurley1]

The 2nd annual Noonan meet is scheduled for Saturday, June 14. Many thanks go out to Noonan Pontiac for inviting the MGAC out again!!

There will be tents for shade
There will be food Provided
There WILL be awards this time around supplied by NOONAN and MGAC.- For MGAC members
"Best of Show" determined by Noonan staff.
"Sexiest Grand Am" determined by MGAC vote.
"Most Curb Appeal" determined by guests.

Look for further details here or michigangrandamcrew.com.

[ViperGTSR]

can we celebrate an early birthday for me too? :D I will defintaely be in for this this year!

[PACE]

thats sounds great and I would love to go......but its flag day!

just kidding. I am actually getting married that day! I just bought my car from noonan too....That is one meet I was hoping to attend.:mad: If I skip my wedding I'll let ya know;)

[athomas]

Alex...we'll get ya a cake or something!

All......let's keep this tread ON TOPIC.....per request from those who know MGAC people to be post whores

[SilverEcstasy]

so one award will be judged by the people? this sounds great i really want in on this! hopefully my rims will be on by then!

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by mjhurley1
Look for further details here or michigangrandamcrew.com.

MGAC Noonan Meet Thread (http://www.michigangrandamcrew.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=9&t=86&)

[cavingman]

i think alex should get best curb appeal :D

[AaronGTR]

I'll definitly try to get there. Depends on when I can get out of work I guess. I pretty much missed last years. Got there as everyone was getting ready to leave.


And ECAP, congratulations on the impending marriage. Hope for all the best for you!:)

[RIDNonDUBBS]

count 2 krucial in we will be there

[white01]

4 sure

[Prez2KrucialC.C]

just puttin in my 2 cent... yeah, we'll be there...

[BumPin GA]

ill be there too
2 krucial in da house

[2Krucial4U]

just wondering what the times for this event were and wondering if its for sure on june 14.

[DumpsterDamon]

can't make it...very angry about this.

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by 2Krucial4U
just wondering what the times for this event were and wondering if its for sure on june 14.

FOR SURE the 14th and it starts at 1pm and if I am not mistaken it'll got till about 5/6 and then we'll go and do something after that (more than likely at Hurley's place since it's like 3 blocks away. well a 1/4 mile. :thumbs: )

[rodd62]

oh maybe i should come since ive only met jeff (gtmaniac)

[GTManiac]

you SHOULD. lots of missed fun if you don't.

[cavingman]

id be there, but i may be drivin to philly for the weekend :)

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by cavingman
id be there, but i may be drivin to philly for the weekend :)

be there or there'll be a beat down issued! lol

[Nikki]

Hahah!!! Yeah Brendon...BEAT DOWNS WILL BE ISSUED!!

[Craig99SE2]

Are non-club affiliated Grand Am's welcome?

Time?
Address?

[Not2OLD]

Craig, you rogue, you lone wolf!:D

Noonan Pontiac is on old Van Dyke north of 18 mile. When Van Dyke splits, take the left fork, then it's on your left.
(sheesh - you'd think I was an east sider)

1:00 to ~5:00

[mjhurley1]

Originally posted by Craig99SE2
Are non-club affiliated Grand Am's welcome?

Time?
Address?

Absolutley!!!

Noonan address is :
42111 Van Dyke at 18 1/2 Mile Rd.
Sterling Heights

Things will start noonish.

[SilverEcstasy]

Originally posted by mjhurley1
Things will start noonish.

Hence, the name. How ironic lol

[Craig99SE2]

Cool! See y'all there! :cheers:

[rodd62]

damn, dont i feel dumb. i went there today and it was empty. i was sure i read the directions right and im sure there is only one noonan pont. but no, i wasnt sure that it was the right date. so i was out that way still the whole day. but on a good note, i got to see Davids (95-gt) and damn that is a fast ass 3400!! (see dave, i told you i would rant about it). when that thing is done, man i bet he will see some mid to low 14's. well hopefully i can make it out there again next saturday for the meet. damn i still feel stupid.

[Nikki]

Crap!! Now it starts noonish??? I thought it was 1 pm?!?!?! I got stuff I have to do before then....grrrr.

[mjhurley1]

Starts at 1.

[Nikki]

Thank you Mike :)

[RIDNonDUBBS]

so let me get this straight i thought the first time i read this post way back when it didnt say only mgac members get awards, or did i just over read that or did you guys add that in. i really think it isnt fair that this year 2krucial doesnt get to be apart of it. we were there last year too. and i think it should be open to all grand ams not just mgac. if the public is voting and noonan is voting at leaste let the people decide whos cars they like instead of a controlled vote for one group of cars. someone from mgac should call me so we can make this right. we were there last year too.(248)789-8797 xdc (586) 552-7000

Josh

[Nikki]

Well Josh, from what I understood...Adam had changed the post so there wouldn't be any confusion.

He explained it to me also, like this: Noonan is doing this just for MGAC, however all GAs are welcomed. Noonan is providing the trophies to MGAC members only becuz they are a sponsor of our club.

I have no idea how they will tell whos who....but I'm just repeating to you what I heard from Adam.

It will be nice to see you guys again...long time no see.

[RIDNonDUBBS]

i guess thats how the cookie crumbles, life goes on but i still think its pretty $hitty that we as in other ga's are ruled out when mgac dropped off the map for a few months what happened then. my club was still around but hey i guess this whole friendly car club thing isnt working out. so far this is 2 istances that mgac has weeded out 2krucial. 1 bieng the glof course meeting and now this. does think mean when it comes time for the gap 03" we arent going to able to park with everyone too. i mean come on this is supposed to be a one big ga family wheather we have diiferent car club stickers or not. as far as sponsor ships, thats cool, but i dont know whatever. whatever happens happens

[Nikki]

Josh, I totally understand you. I'm hoping one of the "head" members chime in here to clear things up. I'm only repeating what Adam had told me last week.

Who knows if it will even be like that once we get there...I have no clue. A lot of stuff has been going on with us and things haven't been too good, so I'm sure once we get there, the guidelines will be a different story from what I posted...I guess we will see.

[Bad_Kitty]

Or maybe mgac can't handle the competition.

[BumPin GA]

i think that is this a load of crap. Many car clubs have cars shows and anyone who shows up can win an award its called competition. I dont c why the MGAC members arnt ****ed about this too. Why would u want the only competition be the members of your club when there are other GA's there. There could be are car sittin next to you and be a nicer car but it cant win an award bc it isn not appart of your club. Adam What happened to the whole GA family. To me is sounds like you are tryin to create a monopoly(Exclusive control by one group). Familys are monoplies they are democracys. Why wouldnt you want to let the other cars have a change for an award. To me it sounds like you are scrared that MGAC is not going to walk away with all three awards so you'll just change it so they do. I dont think in any means that this is right.

[Nikki]

Ok, sorry for the confusion!!!

I have just spoken with Mike Hurley, who is also coordinating this event...

The trophies WILL BE for EVERYONE!!!

I was simply relaying info that I had received from Adam, which I just found out WAS NOT TRUE!!

Adam has also stepped down from President of the MGAC....sorry for the bad info.

Now is everyone happy?!?! I think this is very fair now. And, yes I DID NOT agree with it in the first place.

[mjhurley1]

Originally posted by Bad_Kitty
Or maybe mgac can't handle the competition.
You got to be kidding me. http://www.michigangrandamcrew.com/forum/html/emoticons/Haha-above.gif




Josh, you and 2Krucial are more than welcome to the meet.
Awards WILL be given to any Grand Am that deserves it, regardless of what club they're in.

[Nikki]

Originally posted by mjhurley1
You got to be kidding me. http://www.michigangrandamcrew.com/forum/html/emoticons/Haha-above.gif


Hahaha yeah I thought that was pretty funny myself!! She obviously hasn't seen Orgasmo!! hehe

[RIDNonDUBBS]

:D boogie: :boogie:

cool thanks guys

[Nikki]

No problem! I feel really stupid for relaying Adam's false info now, haha. But I can't wait to see the ride Josh...I heard you have a lot more done now.

[BumPin GA]

Thankx guys this is how the GA family should be

[Nikki]

Yep! I agree...remember last year when we all use to hang out 2gether and get along?? Thats how it should be :D

[BumPin GA]

you are totally right nikki

[athomas]

Originally posted by Nikki
No problem! I feel really stupid for relaying Adam's false info now, haha.

False info??? HUH!!??

When this was set-up my both Mike and I, we brought it to Mr Morley (general manager) as an MGAC thing. He agreed and that was what it was. He agreed to get us trophies and dash plaques.

There WILL BE 30 dash plaques given away, and 3 trophies.

The reason that I had edited Mikes post to begin with is that I did not want there to be any confusion for Noonan Pontiac. NEVER did I say that 2Krucial is/was unwelcome on this or the MGAC board.

As Mike posted.... awards will be determined by Noonan staff. I agree, let them pick which they like the best.


....Rant....

It's things like this that I'm glad I no longer have to deal with as I have stepped down from the MGAC. :D No more politics, and no more drama :).....

P.S...... I fully apologize if I've just completely missed the boat...I have no grudges against anyone in the MGAC or 2Krucial. I ask this question not to be a smart ass, but I was just wondering if 2Krucial had events like this that MGAC members have been invited to??

[athomas]

Originally posted by Nikki
Hahaha yeah I thought that was pretty funny myself!! She obviously hasn't seen Orgasmo!! hehe

That statement I definately agree with :)

[white01]

Originally posted by athomas
I ask this question not to be a smart ass, but I was just wondering if 2Krucial had events like this that MGAC members have been invited to??
adam i think i can speak on this for 2kruical anyone on the team can correct me other wise. we have nothing hidden up are sleeves,no secret agenda, no sneaking around to car shows. we just choose not to post about everything we do and who we do it with. we just like to sit back,relax and enjoy the ride.:cheers:

[athomas]

Originally posted by white01
adam i think i can speak on this for 2kruical anyone on the team can correct me other wise. we have nothing hidden up are sleeves,no secret agenda, no sneaking around to car shows. we just choose not to post about everything we do and who we do it with. we just like to sit back,relax and enjoy the ride.:cheers:

Totally cool!! And that's fine.... I just wanted to perhaps enlighten people that perhaps things need to go both ways so that we don't have things like this come up. We in no way wished to exclude 2Krucial, and if it seemed that way, I sincerely apologize.

[2Krucial4U]

Honestly we never have had anything like this, the only thing we really have are our monthly meetings. But when and if we do I don't see why you guys wouldn't be invited along.

I personally can't wait for this noonan thing to happen, the only one I have ever meet from u guys is aaron and he was really cool to me, he put in my temp stat for me. BY the way aaron if u read this I have a question for u about that on saturday.

SEe eceryone Saturday!!!!:cheers:

[SilverEcstasy]

Not to stir things up again..but good lord you 2Krucial kids sure get your panties in a bunch everytime something does not go your way. You guys talk about a GA family, yet you complain that you arn't goin to win awards, or be the best. I thought this was for fun and for the GA community, not for winning plaques and stating your status?

I don't mean for that post to be negative, or directed towards anyone in specific, but geezus..kinda rubbed me the wrong way at the 'tude some of you 2Krucial people cop. Besides, its something that Noonan is sponsoring, let them be the judge of it.

[2Krucial4U]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
Besides, its something that Noonan is sponsoring, let them be the judge of it.

I think thats all they were trying to say there mike.

[SilverEcstasy]

I know. And like I said, I didn't mean that in a negative way, or to stir things up. It just kinda..made me think twice about this whole "not fair, why can't we get awards too" thing. I mean, you guys are an all show club, you obviously will get appeal of some sort, and when its specifically Grand Am's, who do you think will get the upper hand? A "show" Grand Am club. When really, the point of this was to try and make it a small car club for the MGAC.

I dunno, i'm just speakin my mind, no biggie. No harm, no foul, no hard feelings.

[cavingman]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
Not to stir things up again..but good lord you 2Krucial kids sure get your panties in a bunch everytime something does not go your way.

90% of us are older than you.

You guys talk about a GA family, yet you complain that you arn't goin to win awards, or be the best. I thought this was for fun and for the GA community, not for winning plaques and stating your status?

then dont give out awards?
I'm not through college yet, but that seems pretty obvious to me.
A car show is a competition. dont give out awards if you dont want competition.

I don't mean for that post to be negative, or directed towards anyone in specific, but geezus..kinda rubbed me the wrong way at the 'tude some of you 2Krucial people cop. Besides, its something that Noonan is sponsoring, let them be the judge of it.

not anyone specific, so mention a club specifically. right.

If anyone is mad because they didnt win an award for their car, then DONT BRING IT TO A CAR SHOW. Dont plaster your club name all over a car show and complain when someone from a different club shows up with a better car. it's that simple.

[SilverEcstasy]

Originally posted by cavingman
90% of us are older than you.

wtf I meant it in a joking way. Not literally.

then dont give out awards?
I'm not through college yet, but that seems pretty obvious to me.
A car show is a competition. dont give out awards if you dont want competition.

Yet competition isn't necessarily always for the kill, its also for fun.

not anyone specific, so mention a club specifically. right.

:huh: Right, cause if I were to aim that at anyone specific, I would have had personal names or screen names quoted or pointed at. Thats what being specific is. Ya learn that in college yet?

If anyone is mad because they didnt win an award for their car, then DONT BRING IT TO A CAR SHOW. Dont plaster your club name all over a car show and complain when someone from a different club shows up with a better car. it's that simple.
You have your opinions, I have mine. I'm not mad or complaining. I just made note of a simple fact that we've have these "distresses" between the two clubs before cause something would be arranged within our former president, and then 2Krucial will be turned-off by it or offended. I shouldn't have to explain everything I say, but I decided I might as well for further reference.

[rodd62]

on a lighter note....i hope to win the award for most stock SE

[Not2OLD]

Originally posted by rodd62
on a lighter note....i hope to win the award for most stock SE


hehehe I'll de-install the gutter-guard and shoot for most stock GT

(crap!!! I'll have to re-badge too....anybody got gum?)


As for the 2Krucial people, I for one, would like to meet you, and see your cars.

[SilverEcstasy]

same here, it would be nice to see some dubs

[seeya]

wow... whatever happened to the good 'ol days of just getting to gether to have fun? having a "club" really wrecked it for mgac. sad to see half of you dropping out and having dissagreements with eachother and sorry to read about things ending up like they are.

[SilverEcstasy]

things are fine with the club. but there was too much miscommunicatio ,distrust, and misleading information that stirs with drama and politics that caused problems. a club is just another reason to hang out. if it wasnt a club, we would still hang out

[seeya]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
things are fine with the club.


is that why mike and adam "resigned"? and why nikki had to speak up and and ask why she was asked to be part of the few who would lead mgac, but later not be included in anything? i'm not trying to make a big deal outa it... i just think it's too bad that drama and politics are pulling you guys apart.

[Craig99SE2]

This is why I live in Michigan and choose to remain "unaffiliated"! I went through the whole car club scene about 5 years ago. I got tired of being in a soap opera and left it all behind.

To each his own! I have too many pokers in the fire to even find time to attend meetings, etc. anyway.

But I will be at the show! :boogie:

I have a dream brothers and sisters. A dream where all the MGAC cars and all the 2Krucial cars roll down Gratiot bumper-to-bumper ...

[DumpsterDamon]

Originally posted by Craig99SE2
I have a dream brothers and sisters. A dream where all the MGAC cars and all the 2Krucial cars roll down Gratiot bumper-to-bumper ...

that would make a collision shop cry with tears of joy, those are a lot of bumpers to fix

[white01]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
I just made note of a simple fact that we've have these "distresses" between the two clubs before cause something would be arranged within our former president, and then 2Krucial will be turned-off by it or offended. I shouldn't have to explain everything I say, but I decided I might as well for further reference.
mike don't take this the wrong way man. you were a cool guy to hang out with at the picnic last year and i learned a lot right along side you but mike mike sometimes theres more harm done when things are over explained. a lot of this "distresse" you speak of comes from people just talking and talking and talking and when people make comments like don't wanna offend you but........... so on and so forth. my .02 on things

[rodd62]

maybe i can win the award for the SE with the most guttergaurd??? i mean i have it on my foglights too... oh and i can show every one a good way of attaching it too;)

[GTManiac]

ok, so I am joining the fray late, but here's what I thought and gathered from all of this.

First off, I agree that 2K SHOULD be in this thing. I mean Noonan is a pontiac dealership. Although MGAC set this up, we'll get props for the event, THAT'S our reward. MIGPC puts on MGM every year and invites EVERYONE, club affilliated or not to come, EVEN GA's. 'NUFF SAID there

To Kitty's comment: back it up and bring your ride. I think you'll be surprised by some of the cars in MGAC. I think 2K has VERY nice cars, I've met alot of them on Gratiot (sorry I don't mention that I'm GTManiac on here, but I've met most of you.), but so do we. :thumbs:

Josh's comment about being left out of the First MGAC meet: Well we've had many more besides that one. Where have you guys been? :confused: It's prolly cause it's a HUGE meet and it's ONLY the huge meets you wanna hit (I can understand that you wanna be a part of the big things we put on, but sometimes that shows a shallow interest, so don't be offended when we don't always include everyone), well sorry that one was MGAC only being as it was our FIRST meet. Don't you guys also have RESTRICTIONS as to who can be in your club? Something like ALOT (*insert 'SH!7LOAD' instead of 'ALOT'* for some people) of show and go items (dubs, tint, a system? something along those lines right?) Well we had some restrictions on the first meet. SO WHAT? get over it. If it really rode yer @$$ that much then you should have said it got over it, not bring it back up 2 months later.

A small simple question that in no way is meant to offend, it's just out of MY simple curiosity: "If there were no awards at Noonan, would 2K STILL be coming?"

Seeya (Jeff Ryder): yer right about a few things, but guess what? We may have had the problems (what club won't?) but we still hang together. Kinda different from disappearing completely and just giving up on everything and everyone. We're working on being better and it's this small squabbles we're looking to get rid of. You diss us for this squabble, but then again, WHY do you care?

Brendan: I like the idea of no awards, but I also like the idea of the awards, it builds healthy competition and reawrds those who put forth a great deal of work into their cars. Either way you go yer bound to have some sort of drama. People would complain if there weren't any awards.

To put this topic to rest ALL are invited, ALL can participate, ALL should get along. I plan on having a TON of fun at this meet and I hope that this squabble (this is lame and everyone should feel like an @$$ for b!7ch!ng about it.) ends. It's useless and I think some people need to check themselves and really rethink alot of what they said here. Shame on alot of you for having to be so divided over a piece of wood with plastic that is coated in fake gold. :nono: :huh:

[mjhurley1]

I've always said, "The More, The Merrier" :thumbs:

[athomas]

Originally posted by seeya
is that why mike and adam "resigned"? and why nikki had to speak up and and ask why she was asked to be part of the few who would lead mgac, but later not be included in anything? i'm not trying to make a big deal outa it... i just think it's too bad that drama and politics are pulling you guys apart.

I resigned because I had/have other ideas than what some club members did. It's not because grudges are held either way (At least I hope not). I do remember when we would all gather just to hang out and play A**hole. Those were the days! And you make a good point my friend. MGAC in retrospect should have stayed that way.

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by athomas
I resigned because I had/have other ideas than what some club members did. It's not because grudges are held either way (At least I hope not). I do remember when we would all gather just to hang out and play A**hole. Those were the days! And you make a good point my friend. MGAC in retrospect should have stayed that way.

NO hard feelings. I think MGAC is headed in the right way this time. We're pretty much a collaboration of friends and acquaintences who all hang together and play with cars. The drama has subsided and I think we're finally looking ahead to a much more fun summer and many years to come.

[seeya]

Originally posted by GTManiac





You diss us for this squabble, but then again, WHY do you care?




no diss intended... just an observation from an outsider. not that i do care, and not that what i say matters, but you guys have a good thing goin' when you're just out to have fun. rules and mandates wreck it for all.

[athomas]

Originally posted by seeya
no diss intended... just an observation from an outsider. not that i do care, and not that what i say matters, but you guys have a good thing goin' when you're just out to have fun. rules and mandates wreck it for all.

I agree with you to a point on that.... but I thing it's really the direction that you want to take. In talking with other car clubs, that are quote, unquote "successful", there are certain rules and madates that have to be in place. That is if you want the club to "Make a name for itself"....that's where I went wrong and didn't consider the feelings/opinions of others.

With the new venture I hope to get people involved from day 1 that are seeking the same type of things.

Again, no hard feelings in any realm. We just all have different aspirations. :D

[AaronGTR]

First, I don't think Bad_Kitty has seen Mike's car or mine either.;)

Second, I never even heard that Adam intended the awards to be for MGAC people only in the first place. I don't agree with that either and think they should be for everyone who comes. I also don't see why the 2Krucial people got so upset about it though. It's gonna be a small show (it's not street dreams after all:D ) so it's really not a big deal. Who cares about awards anyway? Problems been solved though so it's not an issue anymore.


I think everyone just needs to treat this as what it is. An oportunity to get together and have some fun. Don't place too much emphasis on this meet. I hope to see lots of 2krucial, MGAC, and just regular people with GA's and other pontiacs. It's deffinitly been too long since I've seen the 2K peeps. :) Anyone who hasn't seen my car in a while (or at all), if you can hang around until 5pm when I get outta work, I'll be by to show you my sick ride.:thumbs:

[Nikki]

Originally posted by GTManiac
Seeya (Jeff Ryder):

WOA!!! I had no idea...

Originally posted by seeya
wow... whatever happened to the good 'ol days of just getting to gether to have fun? having a "club" really wrecked it for mgac.

I agree!! But I don't think it was the club that wrecked it for MGAC, I think it was having the leadership...last year MGAC didn't have any Presidents, etc...and everything was fine.

But you're right JEFF...rules and mandates helped contribute to the problems...Adam just has different views on things.

Originally posted by athomas
False info??? HUH!!??

Adam, I didn't mean anything by that...I had talked to Mike earlier that day and he told me that was not the case...so thats my reason for stating false info...maybe I shoulda worded that differently.

[bamfga]

Wow...I should show up here a lil more. It seems like I just read two months worth of soap opera digest in the last two days from catching up. I guess being a lil ghost was a good thing being that I would have hated to see all of the drama. I remember last year when everyone would play nice...it's kinda like Kindergarten (sp) you were just happy to see another person w/ the same interests. You didn't care where they were from as longs as they played fair and didn't hog the sand box shovel or the fat red crayon. Now in year 2 it's kinda like 1st grade you know a lil more about the world and divisions start to form over small petty things. Maybe everyone needs to take a nap every day again:rolleyes: :D .

I trully do hope that this is all behind us...we are all (hopefully) mature adults and can tell when something is petty. 2Krucial and MGAC sould not be bickering over trophies and yes I think I can speak for 2Krucial in saying that we would've come w/out the competition...we showed up last year so we had plans to come when we heard about it this year. This will be my first major event of the summer in terms of numbers attended...as probably for a lot of ppl. Lets make this a fun day w/ no drama! Think back to last year when Adam let me use his lawn chairs. Steve had the triangle subs. Kevin was bumpn as usual. and somebody had a cooler w/ cool beverages(sorry memory is hazy on the name), C'mon ppl remember the fun from last year and lets erase the line in the sand and enjoy everyone's company again!

Sorry about the long post

[Craig99SE2]

Hey ... does anyone coming to the Show have a spare set of stock exhaust manifolds laying around? I know some of you have headers ...

PM me with a price and I'll bring the cash!

[Bad_Kitty]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AaronGTR
[B]First, I don't think Bad_Kitty has seen Mike's car or mine either.;)



First of all, who cares if I have or haven't seen the kids car. I've seen lots of tricked out cars. I got the impression from you guys that you were afraid of having others compete against you, because it was all about mgac, at first.

[SilverEcstasy]

Originally posted by Bad_Kitty
First of all, who cares if I have or haven't seen the kids car. I've seen lots of tricked out cars. I got the impression from you guys that you were afraid of having others compete against you, because it was all about mgac, at first.

Hehe, they're both older than you kid.

Anyhow, lets just all put the bickering behind us, it was just a small misunderstanding of words, we all got it out of our chests (other than holding it inside and talkin sh=t behind each others backs). Lets just have a good time Saturday, cause you know thats going to happen regardless of what we say on here damnit! lol


Edit: Craig, what engine? I know Alex has a set of 3400 exhaust manifolds that he has laying around after installing his headers. Why do ya need em? Aftermarket ones arn't working out?

[SilverEcstasy]

Originally posted by white01
mike don't take this the wrong way man. you were a cool guy to hang out with at the picnic last year and i learned a lot right along side you but mike mike sometimes theres more harm done when things are over explained. a lot of this "distresse" you speak of comes from people just talking and talking and talking and when people make comments like don't wanna offend you but........... so on and so forth. my .02 on things

I don't know how, but I completely missed your post man! Didn't mean to ignore!

I know what you're saying, its just all poopy wars, who can fling the farthest lol....no?...okay maybe i'm the only one hehe. Its all good, no big deal.

[Bad_Kitty]

Hey, I'm not trying to make a war, I was just stating what I thought, but since they are letting other ppl compete, then I guess I was wrong for saying that.

[Craig99SE2]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
Edit: Craig, what engine? I know Alex has a set of 3400 exhaust manifolds that he has laying around after installing his headers. Why do ya need em? Aftermarket ones arn't working out?

Yes, stock 3400's. I don't have aftermarket ones. I'm not buying headers to just turn around and hack them up for the turbo. I decided to use HEAVILY ported stock manifolds instead. This way, I can port the sh*t out of a set and then swap them in when they are done to take advantage of them pre-turbo.

Alex - want to sell them? How much?

[AaronGTR]

Ok Craig, I know you and I don't always agree on things, and I'd like nothing else than to let you give Alex some money for his stock mani's, but I can't let you do that in good conscience, so don't take this the wrong way please. Before TOG's were available to us I talked to some grand prix guys who tried porting their stock mani's and they said they saw no difference on the dyno. Basically the cross section of the rear collector is too small compared to the size of all the exhaust ports to make it possible to increase flow significantly. They said that if you ported it enough to make the tiniest difference the cast iron would be too thin and might crack, and after installing Alex's headers and getting a good look at the stockers I have to agree. Rather than wasting my time on them, I'd just save up and at least get the S&S headers. They'd be way better anyway. Or just wait 'till you get a turbo. That's just my $.02 ok.


Sorry for getting off topic guys.:)

[Craig99SE2]

Aaron, The biggest concern is the port match. How do the stocker openings look compared to the gasket opening? Especially now that my head is ported to match the gasket. Also, with the turbo, I still want to do some mild porting to remove casting marks, nodules, etc.

As for headers, there is no way I'm dropping that kind of cash to sell them for 50% or hack them up. Maybe if I could find a used set for $200, but otherwise, no dice!

[Warthog]

i think the biggest problem is people calling this a 'show.' having a couple awards does not equal a car show. are we charging people to come look at our cars? is EVERYONE that's coming entering themselves into some sort of competition? no and no.

as always i am glad that i am just coming to have a good time and hang out with friends. i could care less if your car is better than mine, i'm just out to have fun (and recruit hotties to come to our gatherings).

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by Warthog
and recruit hotties to come to our gatherings.

AMEN

[rodd62]

im gonna be late cuz of some work i have to do, is it still cool that i come???

[athomas]

Absolutely!! I WILL have my phone on :) So even if you're coming later you can reach me. It's 248-760-4123. See you there!

[athomas]

Originally posted by bamfga
Wow...I should show up here a lil more. It seems like I just read two months worth of soap opera digest in the last two days from catching up. I guess being a lil ghost was a good thing being that I would have hated to see all of the drama. I remember last year when everyone would play nice...it's kinda like Kindergarten (sp) you were just happy to see another person w/ the same interests. You didn't care where they were from as longs as they played fair and didn't hog the sand box shovel or the fat red crayon. Now in year 2 it's kinda like 1st grade you know a lil more about the world and divisions start to form over small petty things. Maybe everyone needs to take a nap every day again:rolleyes: :D .

I trully do hope that this is all behind us...we are all (hopefully) mature adults and can tell when something is petty. 2Krucial and MGAC sould not be bickering over trophies and yes I think I can speak for 2Krucial in saying that we would've come w/out the competition...we showed up last year so we had plans to come when we heard about it this year. This will be my first major event of the summer in terms of numbers attended...as probably for a lot of ppl. Lets make this a fun day w/ no drama! Think back to last year when Adam let me use his lawn chairs. Steve had the triangle subs. Kevin was bumpn as usual. and somebody had a cooler w/ cool beverages(sorry memory is hazy on the name), C'mon ppl remember the fun from last year and lets erase the line in the sand and enjoy everyone's company again!

Sorry about the long post

I quoted this whole thing because it bears repeating!! Well said Joe!! :thumbs: :thumbs:

[rodd62]

sweet!! i will for sure be there, i mean i even tried to go last week, but no one was there...lol

[2002GT]

good post bamfga for real!!! :thumbs:

[Nikki]

Just wanted to say Congrats to:

Mike Hurley, member MGAC....Overall Best Vehicle
Josh, member 2Krucial....Best Engine
Kevin, member 2Krucial....Best Interior/Audio

GREAT JOB guys!!! Glad to see everyone gettin along again too. It was an awesome meet, I had lots of fun....

It sucks tho that all the pics I took came out blurry...time for a new digicam :(

[ViperGTSR]

and u didnt make me cookies, but hey, ill try to get over it :/

congrats to everyone! (i know the judges didnt even look at my car becuase my alarm didnt go off, those bastards) lol

[mjhurley1]

Thank's Nikki. ;) It was a great meet. A lot of fun. (except for the sunburn :mad: )


Alex - I offered Oreo's. :D

Here's the winners.

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=180464

[mjhurley1]

:thumbs:

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=180465

[rodd62]

damn mike, now i wish i had seen your car...dont think i met you either...oh well maybe this friday then...

[RIDNonDUBBS]

great times, cant wait untill we set up the next meet at stoney creek. glad that everyone got along. and hopefulley the guy that fell off the curb with his car is ok. i know i wouldnt have handled it as easy as he did. i thought he had air ride from where i was. looked that no major damage happened so thats good.

see everyone at the next show/get together

[Not2OLD]

Yup, that car landed on the cross member so the fates were with him that day!

Great to see all the GAs there. Good people, good cars...BIG sun.

[cavingman]

i wanted to show up, but i was in philly all weekend :[
congrats to josh hurley and kevin! all of them well deserved :thumbs:

[Craig99SE2]

Originally posted by RIDNonDUBBS
and hopefulley the guy that fell off the curb with his car is ok. i know i wouldnt have handled it as easy as he did. i thought he had air ride from where i was. looked that no major damage happened so thats good.

Thanx man! All is well ... just a scratched front crossmember.

Next time I plan on doing that, I'll bring the Jeep instead! :eek:

[2Krucial4U]

Good times for sure!!!!!

I know i have been asking and waiting for summer to arrive but I think i would have been just as happy if it coulda been like 10 degrees cooler out. I mean all u had to do was just stand still and u'd sweat like crazy!?!?

Lots of peeps and their grand ams equaled one heck of a good time, can't wait to do it again.

Got alot to get done in the next month before GAP though.

[Not2OLD]

some shots from Noonan...

[Not2OLD]

and another.....

[Not2OLD]

and another.....

[Not2OLD]

The Champeeeeens

[rodd62]

hey!! thats my car in the 3rd pic!!!
















well next to the *** one....jeez you think you could have centered my car more in the pic....

[2Krucial4U]

hey gpnomo, thanks for the great shots of my car, I'll have a couple more things done before gap, hope to see everyone out there!

[white01]

man it seems like i missed on hell of a meet.....i hope i can make it to the next one! those are some nice pics taken gpnomo:thumbs:
andrew

[Nikki]

More 2Krucial pics from Noonan can be found HERE (http://www.michigangrandamcrew.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=28&t=453&) :thumbs:

[BumPin GA]

i got alot of pics ill post em soon

[bamfga]

nice pics Nikki, see my car hiding in shame in the middle...I need to do more to make my car stand out!

[Nikki]

Thanks :) Your car is sweet!! I luv the tint :thumbs:

[RIDNonDUBBS]

i cant get in to mgac

[Nikki]

Josh~Like I told you in that PM...I think its becuz you haven't been validated yet. But in the meantime, I will post these pics of your sexy ride ~>

http://www.michigangrandamcrew.com/forum/uploads/post-28-1055964707.jpg

http://www.michigangrandamcrew.com/forum/uploads/post-28-1055885472.jpg

^As you can see, my camera was takin blurry pics...but I now have a new one :D

[RIDNonDUBBS]

thanks again nik, i am just excited to see all the pics ive been hearing about.