A little Zaino Rant...

[OneQuickGT1]

This may sound like it is directed towards people on the board, but I would like to put a disclaimer on this and say it is just a general rant. There is such a hype about Zaino that it is really getting to me. It is a great product, don't get me wrong, but for the average user, it is tough to achieve the best results. I have gone to great lengths to evaluate how great the products really are, and I have to say I am unimpressed in several ways. There are products that meet or exceed Zaino in many ways! I will een say that my car, with other products on it, will meet or beat some Z cars. My overall point is that it is possible to use other products and achieve a shine that gets the looks and attention. There are many more complex areas I could go into, but I will let you ask those individual questions. Just know there are other products out there, and don't let anyone sway you into Zaino. Use what YOU like best. That is the secret of detailing.

OK, I'm off the soapbox....
Brett

[Panacea]

True true. Again, from personal experience Zaino has been the best for me. I want somethign that will give me a good shine and last a very long time, and Zaino is the best that I have used so far.

Like I said, there are probably better products, but I have neither the time nor the money to experiment.

I will have to say that Zaino has ONE of the best smelling leather conditioners that I have seen/used. Again, that's just my opinion.

[JHawk GT]

Brett,
You don’t have to worry about me taking it personally. I’m always up for a debate and think that, so long as we keep our minds open, it’s a great way to share new information. However, I don’t usually change or modify my positions unless I am presented with compelling evidence to the contrary.

I’m not a professional detailer, but I have taken the time to research detailing products on the market as well as detailing procedures. I always try to keep up with the latest developments. Started out with Meguiar’s, then tried P21S, then Klasse, did a little experimenting here and there with different combinations of stuff, but finally settled on Zaino for a number of reasons. I don’t only use Zaino products now because I still need to do special paint prep things depending on what happens between detailings, and Z5 doesn’t completely cut it for me for swirl mark removal.

That being said, I’m curious about your thoughts, from a professional’s perspective, on this: www.gurureports.org/specialreports/waxtest.html. It’s a comprehensive test independently conducted with 46 waxes and synthetic polishes. It looks like another one will be done in the future that will include more products. All of the products were evaluated on a number of variables. Here’s a quote from the report, "Best in Class honors in the synthetic wax category were awarded to Zaino Brothers Show Car Polish. This product achieved the highest overall score. The test results indicate Zaino offers outstanding shine with unbeatable long-lasting protection.” Armor All Protective Barrier Car Wax, Mothers California Gold Pure Carnauba, and P21S Concours-look Carnauba Wax also took top honors in their respective classes.

By the way, don’t worry about being too bold (saw that in another thread). If someone takes what you say about detailing personally, it’s their problem. You’re here to help out. At least that’s how I see it :thumbs:

[iceman]

Nothing I have ever used outlasts the shine/finish from zaino. Nothing I have ever used is easier to use than Zaino..

Yes there is hype, it's true.

Of course there are other products.. Better and same price and just as easy to use? Prob not

[OneQuickGT1]

Better and same price and just as easy to use? Prob not

Yes, better and the same price.....I am using a product that is just a good, easier to use, and cheaper. Trust me, I've used everything, so ask me about anything....lol

Brett

[iceman]

Originally posted by OneQuickGT1
Yes, better and the same price.....I am using a product that is just a good, easier to use, and cheaper. Trust me, I've used everything, so ask me about anything....lol

Brett

Well then spill the beans. Zaino is so effortless.... anything easier would be like taking a pill and your car gets shiney.

[OneQuickGT1]

Right now I am using a product called Poorboys.....Honestly, it has got to be the easiest product I have ever used!

Brett

[peeps]

Originally posted by OneQuickGT1
Right now I am using a product called Poorboys.....Honestly, it has got to be the easiest product I have ever used!

Brett and more information can be found here ____________________________:rolleyes:

[OneQuickGT1]

If anyone wants more info, they can PM me....I don't want anyone to think I am working for those guys or anything!!!

Brett

[04gagt2dr]

a question for you guys trying different types of detailing, did you remove old wax before applying new stuff? just a thought if maybe that would give all the types level playing field to start from!

[eren00gt]

and more information can be found here ____________________________:rolleyes:

Found it:

http://www.poorboysworld.com

Web site sounds like a carnuba version of zaino and cheaper.
I will consider using it when I am about to run out of my current product.
Maybe others will try it and give their own review of it before I need to buy more.

[Slim]

Found it:

http://www.poorboysworld.com

Web site sounds like a carnuba version of zaino and cheaper.
I will consider using it when I am about to run out of my current product.
Maybe others will try it and give their own review of it before I need to buy more.

Doesn't look much cheaper than Zaino to me. Besides, it states it's 100% Carnuba. That's not a polish, that's a wax. Polish > Wax.

I've tried lots of different products over the years and nothing, compares to the shine I get with Zaino.

Like Seth said, if it got any easier, I'd just have to snap my fingers and my car would be shiny. :)

[eric99gt]

well i believe the hype. i've tried multiple cleaning products. hell i have a large shelf totally dedicated to cleaning products in my basement. zaino beats all. if not for the shine, it's the long lasting protection it gives you. not to talk about ease. after the first initial application it just becomes easier. hardly any rubbing. I've seen tests that prove zaino is the best. until i see otherwise i'll keep using it.

[Nikki]

Poorboys is good stuff too! I know a detailing company here that only uses the Poorboys line of products...

[Slim]

Poorboys is good stuff too! I know a detailing company here that only uses the Poorboys line of products...

Can it beat this? :p

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/369000-369999/369745_15_full.jpg

[Nikki]

What? The focktard in the pic?!?!? hehehe

[HotLikeFire]

I thought Zaino was a wax??? Hmm. It its long lasting.. how often to do you use it?

[IanGT99]

A little off topic, but I was just wondering where I could pick up a claybar system? I haven't seen one in any autoparts stores around here, and I really wanna do that before the end of summer.

Personally, although it takes a lot of time, I really like the Meguiar's 3-step. It's cheap to buy and a PITA, but the end product is worth it. When it rains, I've never seen water on a car bead up like it does on mine. I've been meaning to try Zaino, but I just haven't had the need to yet.

[HotLikeFire]

A little off topic, but I was just wondering where I could pick up a claybar system? I haven't seen one in any autoparts stores around here, and I really wanna do that before the end of summer.

Personally, although it takes a lot of time, I really like the Meguiar's 3-step. It's cheap to buy and a PITA, but the end product is worth it. When it rains, I've never seen water on a car bead up like it does on mine. I've been meaning to try Zaino, but I just haven't had the need to yet.


Off Topic:

lol

Nice Icon,

I was just reading about Larry running for president

[Slim]

What? The focktard in the pic?!?!? hehehe

Hahaha... Funny girl. lol

[Slim]

I thought Zaino was a wax??? Hmm. It its long lasting.. how often to do you use it?

Nope. Zaino is a polish. If done properly, Zaino only needs to be done twice per year. After the winter and just before winter. You can touch it up over the summer, but it's not really necessary.

[HotLikeFire]

I had the misconception that wax was what would protect your car and that polish is what really shined it up but didn't protect. And is it really that easy to use? See I use Mothers California Carnuba and by the time im done w/one coat my arms are like rubber. Its really a hard wax to buff in comparison to others i've used but I get nice results and don't need to do it very often.

[erimar77]

I'd have to say I love my Zaino, results speak for themselves and I've never used a wax that beads/lasts longer.

[IanGT99]

Lookin' good, erimar.

Once again, can someone tell me where I can get a good claybar system? I don't want to pay a fortune, but I really wanna do it as my car is showing signs of oxidation and whatnot. Gotta get rid of that ASAP.

[eric99gt]

any claybar will work. nothing special about claybars.

[Panacea]

A wax is just what the name states, a wax.

Zaino cannot be considered a wax, because it has no wax in it whatsoever.

A Polish is a midly abrasive material to help reduce swirl marks and (i believe) it needs to be follwed by a wax.

Zaino is considered a polish, becuase that's the closest thing it can relate to, but it has no abbrasives.

As far as a good claybar system... I love zaino's clay. It's not that I'm partial, it's the truth. I've got a stick of Mothers Clay and my zaino clay, and the mothers clay is crap compared to Zaino's. Don't ask me to explain, it's just the consistancy, and how well it "meads."

[gunner]

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/628000-628999/628440_4_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/628000-628999/628440_3_full.jpg


Dose it beat this and it isent even your wonderful zaino.

[eric99gt]

ya but how long does it last????

[gunner]

Couldent tell ya yet but it's been like 5 or 6 days yet and it still looks pretty. and it's reain for like 3 days in a row but it diddent today thank god. But it's hot as hell right now.

[iceman]

lol here we go again with the zaino

http://www.n-body.net/registry/iceman/303_6.jpg

^after 10 months, through a very rough winter... 1 wash no detail spray or nothin.. 'nuff said imo.

[Molson]

case closed.

Lets have a beer.

[gunner]

but to tell you the truth i dont have any problem with cleaning my car or waxing it or polish or what ever , theres not much for me to do here since all of my friends and family are at home so it's what i do to stay sane and in check.

[erimar77]

Once again, can someone tell me where I can get a good claybar system? I don't want to pay a fortune, but I really wanna do it as my car is showing signs of oxidation and whatnot. Gotta get rid of that ASAP.

You can either get the Z-18 claybar from www.zainostore.com or the Mothers claybar from Autozone.

The Zaino is like $17 and the Mothers is $22 or something...keep in mind Zaino has to be shipped

[IanGT99]

Thanks a bunch, man. I'll be picking some of that up. What do you say would be the best product to use as far as the lubricant spray?

[Slim]

lol here we go again with the zaino

http://www.n-body.net/registry/iceman/303_6.jpg

^after 10 months, through a very rough winter... 1 wash no detail spray or nothin.. 'nuff said imo.


:stupid: Yup. My car looked great after the winter. I was impressed.

BTW... Whoever I let borrow my Z6 at GAP03 still has it. lol I went to find it the other day and no dice.... I realized I lent it to someone, but forgot to get it back. D'oh!

[erimar77]

you just mix about a capful on some car wash soap to about 16 oz of water in a spray bottle

[IanGT99]

Well I just ordered some of the Polish LOK stuff and the claybar from Zaino. I was just planinng on using my Meguiar's polish and finishing carnuba wax. I really like the ease of the Meguiar's and I just bought some new bottles of it last week. I should be simply washing and waxing my car for the rest of the summer, but I'm going to claybar it while I have a week off before I have to go back to school in mid-August. So, we'll see how it works out...

[eric99gt]

you'll need more than the polish lok if you want it to actually work. that is just a base for the other polishes to adhere to.

[Rich]

you know some day i would like try zaino and the claybar sounds like a great idea. but now i have the meguirs nxt wax and if i had a digital camera i could show its maybe just as reflective as the zaino in some of the pics you guys have. its 15 bucks really easy to use and i think its been about 2 months and still beads and looks great.

[IanGT99]

you'll need more than the polish lok if you want it to actually work. that is just a base for the other polishes to adhere to.

Oh, yeah, I know. I was just going to use the LOK, then use my Meguiar's polish and then finally the Meguiar's carnuba.

[Slim]

The thing is, there's probably a few polishes/waxes out there that can come close to or even match the shine of Zaino. I don't doubt that. What the others can't do is last as long a Zaino does. My car will be extremely shiny for months, not weeks. I just give it a good wash and the shine comes back like the day I polished it.

[HotLikeFire]

The thing is, there's probably a few polishes/waxes out there that can come close to or even match the shine of Zaino. I don't doubt that. What the others can't do is last as long a Zaino does. My car will be extremely shiny for months, not weeks. I just give it a good wash and the shine comes back like the day I polished it.

Does it protect though? Like wax is meant to do? Or do you have to wax it as well.

[Slim]

Does it protect though? Like wax is meant to do? Or do you have to wax it as well.

Zaino will protect your paint better than any wax could. Plus, it won't change the colour of your car like some waxes do.

Zaino is great for dust repelling too.

[Panacea]

The canadian speaks the truth!

Think of it like this. Take some Beeswax, heat a pan to about 100 degree's. Now, put the wax in there and see what happens... It melts. Same thing goes for wax. It melts and won't last but a few weeks.

I can contest to the longetivity of Zaino. I put 1 coat on in late October to early november and only washed my car 3 times throught the winter. Road salt sat on my car for 3 weeks or more at a time. I didn't reapply zaino till late february to early march. The water didn't bead up like fresh zaino does, but it beaded up in larger puddles, meaning it was still protecting. I've never had a wax that lasted more than two months. Hell, I don't even think I've had one last more than a month (and I've used between 5-9 different types).

[HotLikeFire]

Lame that you can only buy it online, does ANY place sell it? i would like to browse through all the different stuff since there are a bunch of different bottles on their site.

[IanGT99]

My Meguiar's has been protecting my car for about three weeks now. Water still beads as well as the day I put the 3-step process on it. I must say that Meguiar's lasts quite a bit longer than any other wax I've tried. It protects for an entire winter. No doubt in my mind that Zaino is amazing stuff, but I just like sticking with my 3-step. Hopefully the Zaino Lok and the Meguiar's polish will mate well.

[HotLikeFire]

what goes along w/the three steps w/Meguiars?? like what are the 3 stepss

[erimar77]

I just called Zanio and they said they would take orders over the phone, internet, or fax. i don't know of any store that sells it, i would imagine they only have a webstore

[IanGT99]

what goes along w/the three steps w/Meguiars?? like what are the 3 stepss

The 1st step is a cleaner wax that comes in paste or liquid. The paste is better, but it's damn hard to get off. You really have to buff it hard. 2nd is the polish. This is a liquid that smells kinda funny, but it's really easy to use and it does the job really well. You have some choices for your last step. You can get the regular carnuba wax that comes with the 3 step. It does the job just fine and is also really easy to use. There are also different (and more expensive) bottles of Meguiar's carnuba. They're rated by number. I think the 3 step process one is a number 7 and it goes all the way up to 21 or so. The higher the number, the greater the supposed shine.

[Panacea]

Only online stores sell it.

[tagurit]

I use 3M......it's about $11 a bottle and they have steps u can take....also they have oxidation stuff that is a real fine grit.......safe for all clear coats.....I've used it for at least 6 years now and I'm quite pleased with the results.....They sell that stuff online, Pepboys or, autobody equipment stores. :)