Joke of a Projector beam...

[rodd62]

http://www.gmperformancetuning.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32511\

i suppose he can have a cookie for being creative....

[Gimli]

Might be a good idea not to give links to sites that require us to register...

[PACE]

Yep...thats pretty gay.....I'll put fogs in anyones headlight housing for half the price this guy is charging!! Let the $$ start flowin in!!!

[Rba007]

Yup, those are PIAA Driving lights, glued into the oem housing. How creative.

[iceman]

Nothin wrong with bein creative, let's not bash eh?? If ya don't like, shh

[PACE]

Kinda like the "wing" thread??

[iceman]

Huh ?

[Rba007]

"My wing is gonna be just like an f-16!!!!!!!!!! Only my car makes more power, so the wing will obviously make more downforce than the one on the jet..."

[rodd62]

sorry gim, sorry seth... didnt mean to start any trouble. i kinda forgot that you needed to reg on that site to view pic and/or threads. i didnt mean to bash, just thought i was rediculas that he was charging that much to do what he is doing...but again im sorry.

[Zack@RacingEnvy]

Well.. that is my post.. I dont think you guys realize the parts cost on those.. there is over 80bux in just parts. I get lotsa compliments on them and they are super bright so think what you want. I also already have had orders for them so they must not be that bad.

[rodd62]

well zack i guess i owe you an apology. i guess i shouldnt have assumed anything about your products before i post. well :thumbs: to your effort.

[1993Grandamgt]

i signed up and still can not access it!

[SilverEcstasy]

If i'm not mistaken, projectors are ideally used for HID headlamps because each bulb and headlamp assembly cannot "project" the highly ambient HID light as accurately as a closed projector can in a headlight assembly.

This is my polite way of saying, no one uses projectors for halogens. But I guess i'll be nice by saying that it is creative.

[iceman]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
If i'm not mistaken, projectors are ideally used for HID headlamps because each bulb and headlamp assembly cannot "project" the highly ambient HID light as accurately as a closed projector can in a headlight assembly.

This is my polite way of saying, no one uses projectors for halogens. But I guess i'll be nice by saying that it is creative.

Where do you get such information ?? :nono:

[AaronGAGT]

can someone post the pic... I dont want to register...

[GrafxWerks]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
This is my polite way of saying, no one uses projectors for halogens.
Perhaps you should look at a new Denali. They're just one vehicle I can think of that uses halogen projectors.


- Ryan

[SilverEcstasy]

Originally posted by iceman
Where do you get such information ?? :nono:

Sport Compact Car Mag and the mechanic who works at my dad's body shop.

[Zack@RacingEnvy]

actually HID H3 bulbs wont fit into these projectors without a spacer becuase the element is too long. You can make some spacers to fit but they won't fit stock. The projectors I use basically focus the light better.. there is a nice metal divider inside the housing that makes it have a nice cutoff in the beam. The low beams I use aren't really projectors but they are brighter then stock, they use a H3 style bulb also.

[iceman]

Originally posted by MikeNT256
Sport Compact Car Mag and the mechanic who works at my dad's body shop.

I'd like to see that article.

[Zack@RacingEnvy]

Actually Mike you might have a point about having using a projector lens for HID applications but I dont agree with you saying nobody uses projectors for halogan bulbs. What do you think comes with those projector kits they sell for $250.. I can assure they aren't HID's. Also while it may be true that HID's are better in projectors , they also sell regular style HID bubls that are made to fit into stock housings. Also not every factory car that comes with HID's has projectors.

[AaronGAGT]

Post a picture damn it

[Zack@RacingEnvy]

here is a picture of my front clip from aways

[Zack@RacingEnvy]

here is a shot without the headlight lens on


sorry the camera is crappy

[SilverEcstasy]

Originally posted by Zack@RacingEnvy
Actually Mike you might have a point about having using a projector lens for HID applications but I dont agree with you saying nobody uses projectors for halogan bulbs. What do you think comes with those projector kits they sell for $250.. I can assure they aren't HID's. Also while it may be true that HID's are better in projectors , they also sell regular style HID bubls that are made to fit into stock housings. Also not every factory car that comes with HID's has projectors.

Well, I read this in the article i'm talking about. This isn't word for word. This is a summed up version.

"Actual HID products produce a very bright white light which illuminates the road better. They are also put in a projector-based headlight casing because the light is so bright that it can be very distracting and the light can be mis-guided. Not all headlight casings can project light like a projector can for HID bulbs. HID bulbs are brighter but they tend to shine more to the sides. This is why projector lamps can come in handy because they can aim the ambient light in the right direction by having a smaller enclosure to fit the bulb in. Most HID conversion kits manufacturered today for stock halogen headlamp assemblies can improve your lighting distance dramatically, but most have actually had a small increase only because the housing is not manufactured to aim the light of a HID bulb. However, Halogens depend on the reflective properties of a headlight casing because the light bounces off the mirror-like headlight housing and repels out. A Xenon-bulb however, creates such a bright light within the bulb that it does not need the reflective properties of a normal halogen headlight casing."

I understand this in the way that, Iceman's HID's are bright as hell, but a HID light in a smaller HID specific headlight assembly, lke projectors would probably be the same distance in lighting without it being bright as hell.

All i'm saying is, based on common sense and reading that article, I don't believe there is any use for Halogens in a projector because a projector is essentialy a smaller more enclosed casing made to aim the light in a specific direction with HID's that burn so bright. How can I compare this...

Don't laugh at this, but a candle (the Halogen) and a flash light (HID). A candle light isn't very bright with its flame, but put it into a deep candle holder and the entire thing glows, kind of like a Halogen bulb in our headlight casing as chromey as it is. But a flash light, contains a smaller bulb, in a smaller more enclosed and circular shaped "projector" and it can produce more light in a specific direction. Does that make sense what i'm trying to get across?

[GrafxWerks]

The point of a projector is to focus the light and prevent light scatter. The benefits of a projector can be realized by any type of light source, be it halogen, HID, whatever.

LEDs use a form of projector technology - look at the shape of a LED. The rounded end projects the LED light in a certain pattern, whether it be 15 degree, 30 degree, 45 degree, etc. If you caught the thread a few days ago re: sanding the end of the LED off to diffuse the light more, well, this is exactly why it works - you are removing the "projector".

Bottom line - if you have properly installed projector headlights in your car, it will look cool, yes, and will also benefit you somewhat by reducing light scatter (halogen or HID).


- Ryan

[Zack@RacingEnvy]

Well thank you to all that like the headlights but if you don't I understand too; everyone has an opinion that's why they make cars in different colors..hehe


If anyone is interested in having me make them headlights like the ones in the picture you can contact me. RacingEnvy@wmconnect.com

Thanks all

[Gimli]

Originally posted by Zack@RacingEnvy
actually HID H3 bulbs wont fit into these projectors without a spacer becuase the element is too long.

Come again? An HID bulb with an element? The whole point of HID is that they got rid of the element...

[Zack@RacingEnvy]

Yes I know I meant the actual bulb part.. the length of the glass is longer then a reg. H3 bulb. Not the "element" but the glass section that actually is hte bulb. If you do a google search there are some pages that show the difference.