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SPAZ
06-12-2003, 07:57 PM
As some of you might know, last year I had a little problem with some members on the board, because i didnt race them. Everything is cool between us now, so if you want to race me list your name below for all to see.

Only the 5 fastest will have a shot at my car!!!

kse73
06-12-2003, 08:01 PM
Well I ran a 12.234 stock...um...in reverse! Ok, im sorry, Im an idiot. But that 1/4 time is very impressive.

IrateSpeed6
06-12-2003, 08:03 PM
Hey Wayne, I'll run you without the silly stupid laughing cheater's I-have-no-life gas :D :D :D Otherwise, it will be a fight to the death with pugil sticks!

TO2FST
06-12-2003, 09:15 PM
Top 5 eh? Guess I'm too slow

-Frank

IrateSpeed6
06-12-2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by TO2FST
Top 5 eh? Guess I'm too slow

-Frank Hmm. You're one of those "lingerers" who pretends like they're slow, then they come out of the box with an 11-second 1/4 mile or some crap... I think those blue paint fumes have gone to your head :D

1993Grandamgt
06-12-2003, 09:28 PM
hmm dont even consider me! lol guess someone has a grudge goin on here!

TO2FST
06-12-2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by IrateGT
Hmm. You're one of those "lingerers" who pretends like they're slow, then they come out of the box with an 11-second 1/4 mile or some crap... I think those blue paint fumes have gone to your head :D

Haha Blue paint fumes rock man!!! :) So do the silver from the interior and the varsol tryin to get the red off so I could paint it silver Oh well, and with the 1/4mi we'll see what happens at GAP :)

-Frank

2002GT
06-12-2003, 10:56 PM
nitrious is NOT CHEATING!

Panacea
06-12-2003, 11:00 PM
it's not cheating, but I frown upon it :)

AaronGTR
06-12-2003, 11:15 PM
I'll race ya SPAZ. No grudges though (we haven't even met), just for fun. I know your car's faster but I still wanna race ya.:D I know I qualify as one of the 5 fastest. Two of the boosted times on here aren't even verified or official so I still consider myself #3, and if you count the 2 faster NOS times that puts me at #5 exactly.;) I am curious to see what Frank's car does though too.

AaronGAGT
06-13-2003, 01:13 AM
I'll race you... I'm in the top 5 for sure!




edit: I meant top 500 :huh:

Pacman
06-13-2003, 02:42 AM
ok, after reading this thread, i got to work quickly on my 2.4. i've constructed blue prints of the plan to run a 1/4 mile of 13.731 exactly. now, i've already started and i'm too far now to stop. now... we all cannot beat spaz using my technique, but we can form an alliance... i will share my evil ways with those that are willing to click this attachment link right here...

WHO IS WITH ME!?

SpyhunteR
06-13-2003, 03:16 AM
well put me down for the 2004 GAP list... This year some technical difficulties *coughs* PICracing... mantapart*coughs* have definately set me back oh say 6 months.

2004 GAP list...

1. SpyhunteR - here's the question... do you trust a 4cyl?

IrateSpeed6
06-13-2003, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Pacman

WHO IS WITH ME!? hahahaha lol

MetaGTP1
06-13-2003, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Pacman
ok, after reading this thread, i got to work quickly on my 2.4. i've constructed blue prints of the plan to run a 1/4 mile of 13.731 exactly. now, i've already started and i'm too far now to stop. now... we all cannot beat spaz using my technique, but we can form an alliance... i will share my evil ways with those that are willing to click this attachment link right here...

WHO IS WITH ME!? I Love It!!lol lol lol

MetaGTP1
06-13-2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by SPAZ
Only the 5 fastest will have a shot at my car!!! Well, that knocks me out of the picture.:(

Schweppe23
06-13-2003, 08:24 AM
Schweppe23 would like to knock the Fastest 99+ grand am crown off the king. See you at GAP.:thumbs:

Pat Lavanty

TEAM_AED
06-13-2003, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by 2002GT
nitrious is NOT CHEATING!

I agree.

Doug
06-13-2003, 04:51 PM
I'm too slow to compete.

Licit
06-15-2003, 03:43 AM
If I can find a way to wedge my bros boosted 3800 V6 under my hood, then mod it a little, I got a shot;) But seriously best of luck to all competitors.

Tankengine
06-15-2003, 02:54 PM
look, u know u cant beat my 8 second grand am so dont even make me open a can off woop @ss

SPAZ
06-15-2003, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by IrateGT
Hey Wayne, I'll run you without the silly stupid laughing cheater's I-have-no-life gas :D :D :D Otherwise, it will be a fight to the death with pugil sticks!

Better bring your pugil sticks then Rob !!!!

I had one of the best fights of my life against a guy that i hated in the ARMY with pugil sticks....:D

SPAZ
06-15-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Schweppe23
Schweppe23 would like to knock the Fastest 99+ grand am crown off the king. See you at GAP.:thumbs:

Pat Lavanty

Cool Pat i can't wait, make sure you find me ......OK ...:thumbs:

SPAZ
06-15-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by AaronGTR
I'll race ya SPAZ. No grudges though (we haven't even met), just for fun. I know your car's faster but I still wanna race ya.:D I know I qualify as one of the 5 fastest. Two of the boosted times on here aren't even verified or official so I still consider myself #3, and if you count the 2 faster NOS times that puts me at #5 exactly.;) I am curious to see what Frank's car does though too.

Trust me the other boosted times are real !!!!

I plan on racing more than 5 times, but i want to race the people that really have a shot a beating me so i know that i am the fastest 99 GA or Alero.

I don't care if i lose i just like good competition, well maybe i care alittle........:D :p :D

Gimli
06-16-2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Pacman
ok, after reading this thread, i got to work quickly on my 2.4. i've constructed blue prints of the plan to run a 1/4 mile of 13.731 exactly. now, i've already started and i'm too far now to stop. now... we all cannot beat spaz using my technique, but we can form an alliance... i will share my evil ways with those that are willing to click this attachment link right here...

WHO IS WITH ME!?

Won't work, it ain't an ACME rocket :D

cavingman
06-16-2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by KmanGT1
I Love It!!lol lol lol
ill let ya beat me :)

FastSteve
06-16-2003, 08:22 AM
I would say I want some, but all I would be doing is saying I want a Class A major but whooping. I am sure you will show them how its done Spaz. I am just glad your making it out there buddy. See you there.

Greed4Speed
06-16-2003, 07:49 PM
nitrious is NOT CHEATING!

I don't know. You don't run w/it on all the time. (The power isn't a constant.) You do have to open the bottle just for a run then supposed turn it off afterward. Is this cheating?

Just so you don't claim your times are all engine it isn't.

SPAZ
06-18-2003, 03:42 PM
Is Nitrous is cheating ???

Well i look at it this way, if i loss no-one cares if i had it or not, but if i win thats cheating in the eyes of some of the people i just beat !!!

Is there a such a thing as a fair fight ???
Well to me this question also holds the same answer !!!

***There arn't to many rules to street racing, and if your at the track and it's a test and tune day , then you'ed better be expecting anything.

Certain things that are cheating would be .......lets say Sammy Sosa loading a bat or two...
:eek: , because Baseball has specific rules against this.

Even before i had Nitrous i loved it, because i'm a speed guy. That is why i like all cars no matter what type if there fast !!!


It's Better To Own, Then To Be Owned !!!!!!!!

AaronGTR
06-18-2003, 04:26 PM
I don't think it's cheating. You had to buy and install the parts just like any other power modification. It also has it's good and bad points, just like any other mod you do to your engine.

TEAM_AED
06-18-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by SPAZ

It's Better To Own, Then To Be Owned !!!!!!!!

that an awesome saying. :thumbs:

Jagey
06-18-2003, 05:05 PM
i think nitrous is cheating as well.

GT1GuY
06-18-2003, 05:06 PM
hey ill race you for 500 bucks . Seriously!

SPAZ
06-19-2003, 02:43 PM
Are you going to GAP ???

If so let me check out whats under the hood, and i'll let you know there !!!

If i don't look, then i don't race......you dig suuuuuuuuckaaaaa!!!!!!!!

Babalouie
06-21-2003, 12:41 PM
Hey Frank, I think I'm going to have to come out and play this year!?!?!? What do you think?????

DavidScott77
06-22-2003, 01:58 PM
Even though Ackbar00 is banned from the site, he wanted me to tell you SPAZ that if you REALLY want a good run he will meet you at the GAP03. Of course he'll make sure that he doesn't have his turbo on the Mustang until after you guys run. *** Not to start problems but Ackbar00 WAS one of the many guys that wanted to race last year*** I'm just relaying the message!

Bailey Man
06-22-2003, 01:59 PM
Hell, my Stock GTP will give you a run. Even though it is not stock anymore....

Chaotic Reality
06-22-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by DavidScott77
Even though Ackbar00 is banned from the site, he wanted me to tell you SPAZ that if you REALLY want a good run he will meet you at the GAP03. Of course he'll make sure that he doesn't have his turbo on the Mustang until after you guys run. *** Not to start problems but Ackbar00 WAS one of the many guys that wanted to race last year*** I'm just relaying the message!

Last I knew it was a grand am picnic...don't see anything about mustangs. k bye.

J.

GT1GuY
06-22-2003, 04:06 PM
lol man you can look all you want thats fine with me i wanna know you wanna race though?:)

SPAZ
06-22-2003, 07:10 PM
Sure I'll race you, But it won't be for any Money. I'll see you at GAP03 !!!!!!!

SPAZ
06-22-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by DavidScott77
Even though Ackbar00 is banned from the site, he wanted me to tell you SPAZ that if you REALLY want a good run he will meet you at the GAP03. Of course he'll make sure that he doesn't have his turbo on the Mustang until after you guys run. *** Not to start problems but Ackbar00 WAS one of the many guys that wanted to race last year*** I'm just relaying the message!


Ya to bad the track is not open to the public afterward, because i won't race him on the street !!!

Jagey
06-22-2003, 07:28 PM
I said it before and i'll say it again, WHY THE HELL IS ACBAR STILL BEING BROUGHT UP ON THIS FORUM.

DavidScott77
06-22-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by SPAZ
Ya to bad the track is not open to the public afterward, because i won't race him on the street !!!

*****:D


Jagey - Because he is a bad Mother****ker!!! :eek:

SPAZ
06-22-2003, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by DavidScott77
*****:D


Jagey - Because he is a bad Mother****ker!!! :eek:

If you ONLY knew...... ;) ........I've already been busted for engauging an officer in a high speed pursuit, reckless driving, improper lane change, running a red light, running a stop sign, destruction of privite property, unregistered motor vehicle, resisiting arrest, and assult on a police officer.

This was all on the same day !!!

I'm older and some-what wiser now, put your self in my shoes!!!

And i still have to go to driving school if i get one more ticket !!!!!!

Now how's the *****...:huh:

Bailey Man
06-22-2003, 10:34 PM
*****:D :D :cool:

2002GT
06-22-2003, 10:43 PM
Street Racing isn't a joke... I do it but still.... When I got my 1st street racing ticket it was $6,000 later dropped to $3,000 and I had to spend the weekends in jail for 2 months, and I couldnt drive on the weekends for 6 weeks... hmm... SPAZ is no ***** he's smart...

JOIN TEAM SMARTS - Street Machienes Against Racing on The Streets

Chaotic Reality
06-22-2003, 10:45 PM
WTF, did you kill someone? Jesus.

J.

MetaGTP1
06-22-2003, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Chaotic Reality
Last I knew it was a grand am picnic...don't see anything about mustangs. k bye.

J. After 4 p.m., the track is open to the public. If they want to stay and race, they can.;)

2002GT
06-22-2003, 10:50 PM
Not Exactly... But one of the charges was intent to... Dumbass cops that have nothing better to do down here... I mean he followed me for like 2 miles, but I didn't realize it :(

Illegal Tint (5%)
Noise Pollution (System)
Noise Pollution (Exhaust)
Speeding (87-40)
Carless Driving
Illegal Lane Change
Reckless Driving
Reckless Driving w/ the intent to Harm (I went onto uncoming traffic to pass someone)
Headlight Blackouts
Driving Unsafe for conditions
Blue Turn Signals... and the lest goes on... I have the tickets somewhere around here... Ill try to get a friend to scan em

phantom505
06-22-2003, 11:51 PM
All of these reasons are why I leave the exterior of my car filthy and stock. Cops don't bother people driving beaters around here. As a matter of fact they respect the "poo foo wid da ol' truck"

If I was going to GAP I would love to run..... but that won't happen because I couldn't register. But I have family in MA so maybe I could one day (after my turbo, heads, cam, and maybe even pistons depending how long I take getting the top end done)

Pacman
06-23-2003, 01:19 AM
yeah, street racing (1st time) in albuquerque is a $500 ticket + 1 night in jail + impounding of your vehicle (depending on your speed, if clocked). i'd rather keep my car, my money, and respect from friends and family than not being called a "*****" on the internet
if you want your buddy to run, maybe he sould do it on the track

phantom505
06-23-2003, 01:26 AM
What no crusing on Montgomery there Dan? :thumbs:

aleroboy
06-23-2003, 03:51 AM
hey spaz I'm game to race for who is the fastest.
no nitrous for me either. not sure when we will be able to do this though :(
the way my car sits now it should pinch off low to mid 13's. but we will see after the next track day. oh and by street tires do you mean drag radials or regular tires?
my 60' is 2.3-2.4 and I have to ease into it off the lien to even get that :(

peeps
06-23-2003, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by KmanGT1
After 4 p.m., the track is open to the public. If they want to stay and race, they can.;) This year it isn't.....

SPAZ
06-23-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by aleroboy
hey spaz I'm game to race for who is the fastest.
no nitrous for me either. not sure when we will be able to do this though :(
the way my car sits now it should pinch off low to mid 13's. but we will see after the next track day. oh and by street tires do you mean drag radials or regular tires?
my 60' is 2.3-2.4 and I have to ease into it off the lien to even get that :(


They were regular street tires !!! TOYO TIRES !!!
I will see you at GAP.........O.K.

aleroboy
06-23-2003, 11:58 AM
guess it will have to be 04 gap:(
oh what did you run 1/8 mile?
I just want a comparison to my time slip up here

mcgavinz26
06-23-2003, 12:37 PM
I could probably give you a decent run. I'll be living only about 45 minutes away from your GAP when it's going on. Although, it's not a GA or Alero, very similar drivetrains and suspensions however.

rydog
06-24-2003, 11:35 PM
I will try ya

kregersgt
06-24-2003, 11:39 PM
wish i could afford some more mods. but i got three kids good luck to all competitors

Schweppe23
06-25-2003, 06:31 AM
rydog are you gonna be at GAP?

Pat Lavanty

StephensGA
06-26-2003, 05:17 PM
Where is the GAP at anyways and when? And are you going to any shows near TX SPAZ? if so let me know Ill run ya im ready too show all the haterz on this board what my GA's got. They all talk trash but they dont wanna race so I guess to can rep the trash talkers that are to scared to back there own comments up. And no flame towards you SPAZ just taken you up on a challenge.

eric99gt
06-26-2003, 07:29 PM
off-topic but stephen i thought u had put a 3.8 in ur car......now u have 2.6 turbo. Whats up with that????

StephensGA
06-27-2003, 10:38 AM
Had a 3.8 didnt work out long story there is a very detailed thread about it on GMP and no its not a turbocharged 2.6 its stands for 2.6 (T)win (C)am I traded the 3.8 for this motor all the mods where already done too it except for a few. But anyways im ready to run im all motor most of the time with an auto trans should be an easy kill I also got my 1/4 times and they were sweet as hell ill post the times later when i can scan & upload the slips.

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 09:39 AM
I don't plan on going near Texas, so if your not at GAP03, then we don't race.

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 09:54 AM
OK, trying to clear things up.

Some of you guys, mostly the newer ones must think that I'm hell bent on being the Fastest and your sort of right, but lets try and keep it real.

I put up this post, because last year a few people didn't get to race me. Trust me it's not like I was scared of them, it's just that last year was my 1st GAP, and I wanted to take out the people i thought were the Fastest..........(like) GM's Jay Stokes, RSM's Vortec car and others. I had allot to prove last year, because people as a whole SUCK, and always like to tell other people that ..."you can't do that"..or.."that won't work"......etc.
So i was out to prove all doughters wrong !!!

I didn't race some of the cars at GAP02, because i didn't think it was worth my time. From that said i turned out to be wrong, two of those cars were fast as hell, and I only wished i could have raced them !!!

So to be funny this year i posted "who wants some" so this would not happen again !!!

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 09:59 AM
So if your not at GAP03, I'm not going to your house to race you !!!

If you have a FASTER time then post it, or show everyone how fast you are, and then You can be the Man !!!

My claim to fame was that i had the FASTEST 99 and up GA with a 3.4L (LA1)........if I don't then prove it !!!...........It would only take ALL the PRESSURE off ME.........thanks for listening ..WAYNE...:cool:

95-GT
06-28-2003, 10:26 AM
How about you race my brother mustang? its 15 years old

Jagey
06-28-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by 95-GT
How about you race my brother mustang? its 15 years old

I am pretty sure he said about 50 thousand times that he is trying to proove his 3400 LA1 is the fastest, not that he is the fastest man in the entire world.

95-GT
06-28-2003, 11:48 AM
Ahh. my bad, my bad. I'll take you at GAP04 with my 95 grand am and my 3400 SPAZ. I'll have a lil over 325 horsepower coming from the engine on a completly modified transmission :D

Jagey
06-28-2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by 95-GT
Ahh. my bad, my bad. I'll take you at GAP04 with my 95 grand am and my 3400 SPAZ. I'll have a lil over 325 horsepower coming from the engine on a completly modified transmission :D


Ouch! Now there is some competition. Have you run it at the track yet?

aleroboy
06-28-2003, 01:40 PM
only 325 hp?
I had close to that before my intercooler.
I need to get back to the dyno. :(

oh my latest run at pmi was 14.6 at 93 mph
still 4900 feet above sea level.
gonna see what I do at bandimere on sunday

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by 95-GT
Ahh. my bad, my bad. I'll take you at GAP04 with my 95 grand am and my 3400 SPAZ. I'll have a lil over 325 horsepower coming from the engine on a completly modified transmission :D


If all goes well then i will be at GAP 04 also, and i will save a special spot for you on my back window.....:D

95-GT
06-28-2003, 04:57 PM
I ran it at the track with about 190 HP at the engine...managed to get a 15.1 with 0 engine mods. Only things that were done was a 9" K&N, and 2 1/2" downpipe to the res. with no cat.

Alero....how is your tranny? Do you have a differant gear ratio in it? Cause I do :D lol I am saying right now that we estimate 325 HP from the engine MINIMUN. Its going to be turbocharged, 14" rims, drag radials, i/c, 36 lbs/hr injectors, and much more. I'd like to break 12's by next yr.

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by aleroboy
only 325 hp?
I had close to that before my intercooler.
I need to get back to the dyno. :(

oh my latest run at pmi was 14.6 at 93 mph
still 4900 feet above sea level.
gonna see what I do at bandimere on sunday


Yes Aleroboy you are correct, they will need over 300+ to take down anyone of the Big Boys.

Because in a 3300lb. car that runs high 13's to low 14's you will need atleast 300hp to keep up !!!!

95-GT
06-28-2003, 05:12 PM
what do you have stripped out of your car? Cause my 95 is like 600 lbs lighter already then the 99's and up

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 08:41 PM
Nothing my car weights 3360lbs. with me in it, and about 1/4 to 1/2 tank of gas.

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by 95-GT
what do you have stripped out of your car? Cause my 95 is like 600 lbs lighter already then the 99's and up


Do you run a 95 transmission with lower gears and a kevlar clutch set-up or something newer ???

95-GT
06-28-2003, 08:50 PM
My car is a 1995 Grand Am GT. I took out the stock 3100 SFI engine and put in a 3400 SFI from the venture van (185 hp/215 torque). My transmission's stock gearing was 2.93 on the transaxel, now its 3.29. All the internals are kevlar, the valvebody is modified, i have differant sprag's, selinoids, and more done to it. I am taking my car to Fast Chips soon to get all the shift points changed to the regearing, with also the fuel curves, rev limitor, speed limitor, and more changed up. I expect to run high 14's once thats finished up.

95-GT
06-28-2003, 08:56 PM
Oh ya, I dont have thee 4T45E, I have the 4T60E transmission

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 08:59 PM
Thats sounds great !!! you should stop by the hotel if your not going to GAP. This way you can see all the cars, and people would love to see your ride.

NOTHING is better than a sleeper car !!!
I had two 68 Impala's, one with a stock 327 , and the other with a BUILT 350. It was hard to tell the cars apart in the day time. So at night races they didnt know what hit them.....:D

95-GT
06-28-2003, 09:02 PM
lol. I wont have the turbo setup done by then I think. The money situation is kinda tight with tickets and all. But who would really wanna see a 3400 dropped into a 95 grand am anyways? Also, do you have AIM?

And for you people who didnt see it yet...here is a pic...I know its hard to see, but a few ppl from the forums have had a ride in it and saw it in person. Like GTManiac was one of the few ppl on here who actually heard my tires break loose when it shifted into 2nd gr at 45 mph.

SPAZ
06-28-2003, 09:06 PM
I'm a speed freak, I like it......:thumbs:
No i don't have this AIM thing.

95-GT
06-28-2003, 09:07 PM
lol...I JUST took a updated pic of the engine bay. I am trying to get the latest drivers for my pos cam.

95-GT
06-28-2003, 09:11 PM
I cant get one cause its too dark out and they came out ****ty....but here is a lil bit older one. I now have a strut tower brace, and the optima is relocated to the trunk.

I painted the intakes myself also. The complete swap took me a complete time of only 8 hrs to do.


Edit: They are too attach...so here are links:

http://geocities.com/david22585/enginebay2.jpg

http://geocities.com/david22585/enginebay1.jpg

95-GT
06-28-2003, 09:16 PM
Damn geocities....umm./ I will get pics up later

2002GT
06-28-2003, 09:16 PM
Says unavailable....

Chaotic Reality
06-28-2003, 09:20 PM
you have to copy/paste them into the browser, you can't click on them.

J.

Doug
06-28-2003, 10:39 PM
So is your car now boosted too?

95-GT
06-29-2003, 12:09 AM
Not yet, but it will be soon...or atleast by the end of this yr.

PACE
07-02-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by aleroboy

the way my car sits now it should pinch off low to mid 13's. but we will see after the next track day.

That is a pretty strong statement!! Good luck to all the racers!! I hope to see a bunch more GA's in the 13's after GAP.

Kalvin97GAGT
07-02-2003, 10:26 AM
not going but i'll run you neday and dont look at my sig thats old

aleroboy
07-02-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by 95-GT
My car is a 1995 Grand Am GT. I took out the stock 3100 SFI engine and put in a 3400 SFI from the venture van (185 hp/215

Nothing inside that engine makes it produce that power.
its all to do with the exhaust and airbox the van has.

I beat a buddies grand am in denver.
its a 95 4 door with a 3400 with a vortech running 13 psi.

good luck with 12's

oh and spaz we are pretty close in weight
my car weighed in at 3300 with me and arround a 1/4 tank

and my tranny is doing ok. no internal mods to her yet.

95-GT
07-02-2003, 11:23 AM
Alero, thanks. My goal is 12's by next yr, 13's this yr on 10 psi of boost. I MIGHT do some engine internals o run some more boost and hit mid 12's on slicks.

aleroboy
07-02-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by ECAP
That is a pretty strong statement!! Good luck to all the racers!! I hope to see a bunch more GA's in the 13's after GAP.

well after my last run the cars corrects to a 13.7
I'm doing a few things before I go to the track again.
my plugs are now too cold and I'm going to try using a ported mass air flow sensor since every now and then my car throws a code about running too rich

aleroboy
07-02-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by 95-GT
Alero, thanks. My goal is 12's by next yr, 13's this yr on 10 psi of boost. I MIGHT do some engine internals o run some more boost and hit mid 12's on slicks.

Slicks will definately help ya.
They would get me extremely close to 13's up here
but my tranny would spew all over the place.
so now I save up for the tranny build, a few appearence mods, and gap next year.
I'm sick of not going :(

95-GT
07-02-2003, 12:09 PM
The first thing I did was tranny. I would like to hit 12's with slicks and 10 lbs of boost this yr on a modified transmission.

3x3
07-03-2003, 09:00 PM
Everytime I look up your dropping time off your ET. Keep it up!

Originally posted by aleroboy
well after my last run the cars corrects to a 13.7
I'm doing a few things before I go to the track again.
my plugs are now too cold and I'm going to try using a ported mass air flow sensor since every now and then my car throws a code about running too rich

bonecrrusher
07-13-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by aleroboy
well after my last run the cars corrects to a 13.7
I'm doing a few things before I go to the track again.
my plugs are now too cold and I'm going to try using a ported mass air flow sensor since every now and then my car throws a code about running too rich

Aaron still has you beat on his N20 W41 lsd thingy in his gtz :thumbs:

bonecrrusher
07-13-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by aleroboy
only 325 hp?
I had close to that before my intercooler.


How in the hell did you intercool your supercharged 3400?


Also about the guy with the 3.29 gear ratio... why didnt you get the 3.33 gears out of the 4t60e's out of the W-body's? One thing though, at berettafest the guys with the 3400 and the 3.33's werent hookup that well at the track and were hitting mid 15's. yeah these are in the berettas too.

95-GT
07-13-2003, 06:27 PM
couldnt find anywhere to get a 3.33....and I am hooking up just fine with the 3.29

aleroboy
07-14-2003, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by bonecrrusher
Aaron still has you beat on his N20 W41 lsd thingy in his gtz :thumbs:

on slicks;)
I'm still running street tires

aleroboy
07-14-2003, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by bonecrrusher
How in the hell did you intercool your supercharged 3400?

lots of skill:thumbs:

FORTEEN3GT
07-14-2003, 08:56 AM
SPAZ,

I ran a 14.3 with my 2 stage n2o and wai and borla exhaust and no hood.

since then i have run high 8's in the 8th with a max ported stock maf and iat override, single side ported throttle body with bypass, cai and a few other small things.

now i have a fully ported throttle body both sides and intake plenum.....maf is thin as can be....... and i will have my dhp pcm sometime this week!!!!

i wish you were in texas...i would love to juice ya!!!

i think i should be running mid 13's with all this? my 8th should be 8.5's or 8.3's???!!! 60 Foot times have always been 2.0's

next project......heads, headers, and p & p lower intake and pistons (if i can find them).

by the way...since i've ported the TB my EGR sensor has been causing my SES light to come on....if i give you the codes ...can you diagnose the problem..... my idle is about 600 rpm's too high now at idle and in gear i have tohold the brake to prevent the car from moving at 20 mph...without touching the gas! should i check the egr???

2002GTCoupe
07-14-2003, 07:20 PM
Gotta love guys that take off their hood to get a few extra HP... anyone else see that really popular thread where they butchered a ricer to make it really fast? ;)

My car might be slower than yours, but it looks good too! I just hope that's your race car, and that you actually drive something else day to day. :D

AaronGTR
07-14-2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by FORTEEN3GT
since then i have run high 8's in the 8th with a max ported stock maf and iat override, single side ported throttle body with bypass, cai and a few other small things.

now i have a fully ported throttle body both sides and intake plenum.....maf is thin as can be....... and i will have my dhp pcm sometime this week!!!!

by the way...since i've ported the TB my EGR sensor has been causing my SES light to come on....if i give you the codes ...can you diagnose the problem..... my idle is about 600 rpm's too high now at idle and in gear i have tohold the brake to prevent the car from moving at 20 mph...without touching the gas! should i check the egr???


Nothing you said about the ported TB made much sense, but that shouldn't have anything to do with the EGR because the EGR is hooked to the manifold. If I had to make a guess, since you're idling to high and throwing codes, I'd say you screwed up something with the idle air control valve on the TB or with your MAF. You never want to port your MAF sensor or it will have a fit, and just porting the TB won't do anything (good that is). You need a bored TB with a bigger throttle plate. Best to leave that to the pros. Also, why would you use the IAT over-ride mod if you're running a big shot of nitrous? That increases the advance of ignition timing which is not very safe with NOS. Not trying to be hard on you here, but it sounds like you're trying very hard to blow up your engine.:confused:

jaketuff
07-15-2003, 12:15 AM
FOURTENN3GT ... You need to start a seperate thread to solve those issues...

Sounds like you are working the way we all thought best in the beginning. Those mods have been done and results found, Aaron knows what's up. With our PCMs/sensors porting, boring, etc. is not always logical. See the light, feel the performance.

I know, talk later,
Pat

FORTEEN3GT
07-15-2003, 08:21 AM
disconnected the battery last night.... the light is out!
i took a hammer and flattened my TB plate out a little ...then put it back in....seems to have made the gap smaller and the idle did go down 500 rps....i now sits at 1000 rpm ...

so far the egr SES light has not come back on....
idle did not go wrong till i worked on tb......i thought it was aluminum particles.....sprayed intake cleaner and repaired gap on tb...seems to have fixed it...

the code must have been from the extra air at idle and it must of made more gas build up and jacked with the egr??

great thing about the iat override is that when you have a full bottle....you can take it off!!! i am not that mechanically un-inclined! i know better than to spray with an iat override....but if you think about it...running richer would prevent detonation..less air more fuel?

so far the car feels (seat of the pants) faster..... also the intake is louder, which means it is getting more air.....

porting the upper intake inlet and the TB and MAF have made a slight difference.... seems like i was right...but i did screw up by getting too greedy on the TB p&P but that is fixed now (thanks to my trusty hammer)

i havent sprayed in weeks....... i was wondering how the dhp would react to the nitrous?

ya'll still didnt answer my questions about the added mods from my 14.3 run? and my hood is usually on....i took it off at the track....as well as spare..backseats...panels...and other crap ...
at the track it a race car...and elsewhere it is my "Grocery Getter"
to make this car hit low 14's you gotta take off the gloves....lighter fists fly faster and punch harder!

cavingman
07-15-2003, 08:39 AM
lighter fists break easier too :)

FORTEEN3GT
07-15-2003, 08:52 AM
you are ablsolutely right!!!!!

that is why i put the hood on afterward! i need something to hold the motor down.....

wasn't this post about spaz charging everyone up???

since i cant be at GAP....... how about a battle of the timeslips....
one for 8th....one for 1/4 mile .....

everyone that goes to GAP needs to post their slip in a new forum.... i want to see who my competition is gunna be next year!

Soon to be the Fastest All Motor GA and currently the fastest N2O in the US!

AaronGTR
07-16-2003, 12:14 AM
Currently the fastest N2O in the states? Ok, I gotta call ya on that one. What'd you say you ran? 14.3? The fastest N2O time is currently by PACE with a 13.86@96.1mph, which I was on hand to witness. It's a little early to start talkin' smack here newb'. Some people don't like that around here.;)

FORTEEN3GT
07-16-2003, 08:15 AM
NO SMACK....I JUST BELIEVE IT IS TRUE....

DOESNT PACE HAVE MOTOR WORK??

I can run better than an 13.8 ...if dhp and n2o work well together!

Slim
07-16-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by FORTEEN3GT
NO SMACK....I JUST BELIEVE IT IS TRUE....

DOESNT PACE HAVE MOTOR WORK??

I can run better than an 13.8 ...if dhp and n2o work well together!

Even if he does have motor work.... What do you call P&P of the MAF and TB? It may not be major, but it's still work. :)

GTPprix
07-16-2003, 09:38 AM
Heh this is a really funny thread.

FORTEEN3GT
07-16-2003, 09:41 AM
14.3 with no P & P....if you have been reading lateley you would see that "dremel gone wild on my GA" posts!!! lol

j/k

this is a fun post....thanks to aarongtr!!!!

jaketuff
07-16-2003, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by AaronGTR
Currently the fastest N2O in the states? Ok, I gotta call ya on that one. What'd you say you ran? 14.3? The fastest N2O time is currently by PACE with a 13.86@96.1mph, which I was on hand to witness. It's a little early to start talkin' smack here newb'. Some people don't like that around here.;)

To be fair Botlfed and PACE no longer are running their cars. Those times were made over a year ago as well... FOURTEEN3GT, will you pick 'em off????wtf

OUT

FORTEEN3GT
07-16-2003, 09:50 AM
jaketuff...so you mean that i am the fastest current running N2O
...i am still going ...thanks to the "new" tranny....

man i wish yall were in texas!!! this would be reaaaaalllllyyyyy fun!

GTPprix
07-16-2003, 09:52 AM
Can I run? Can I Can I? Oh boy oh boy oh boy hehehe

Slim
07-16-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by FORTEEN3GT
14.3 with no P & P....if you have been reading lateley you would see that "dremel gone wild on my GA" posts!!! lol

j/k

this is a fun post....thanks to aarongtr!!!!

Rrrrright.... For some reason, I missed that. :stupid:

jaketuff
07-16-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by GTPprix
Can I run? Can I Can I? Oh boy oh boy oh boy hehehe

Not against my GA.:D

Pat

cavingman
07-16-2003, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by jaketuff
Those times were made over a year ago as well...

actually less than a year, but it dont matter (damnit i can be picky if i want!)

jaketuff
07-16-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by cavingman
actually less than a year, but it dont matter (damnit i can be picky if i want!)

The times are starting to get stale... it's about time another N20/ZEX/NOS brother stepped the times up!;)

Out

FORTEEN3GT
07-16-2003, 10:14 AM
what times do you want....... ?

i can run a 13.8 ....thats a piece of cake.....!

a 13.5 maybe a little tricky....... might have to take a-part the hood, spare, and get a skinnier driver!!!!

but i gaurantee that i can hit the 13's....only if dhp doesnt screw it up!

aleroboy
07-16-2003, 02:44 PM
Well 14.3 at sea level is pretty weak with all that gutting Considering I ran a 14.8 4900 feet above sea level with everything in the car except the spare tire.
thats my best nitrous time
then I steped it up to a full time power adder.

also how does the hood hold the motor down?

FORTEEN3GT
07-16-2003, 03:36 PM
but i am not a super hero......

need to talk to Grandamboy!!! he probably runs a 12 flat!!!!

j/k .....the hood keeps the motor in check!! naaah....i just figured it would expense some of the heat from the multiple runs at the track....n20 really makes the car run hot! also does a little to weight...only 32 pounds at the max...whooptie doooo

this sea level crap is confusing..... i thought the world was flat???

hey...i respect everything you are doing...you are the true enthusiast..... but i still stand behind my 13.8!!! so can you beat that n20 time??? taking mid- 8's in the 8th that would be mid to high 13's!

spell check anyone? lol

FORTEEN3GT
07-16-2003, 03:54 PM
2.139 my 60 foot.....

2.31...your 60 foot

my 1/4 was 14.3
your 1/4 was 14.6

does this weigh out right???

i guess yours was .3 slower due to grip!!!!!! sounds like you got down the track well.....man....at sea-level you are faaaaaassstttt!
or should i say would be fast!

glad you are no longer n2o....so that still makes me #1 lol
currently.....

but i see you have gone on to better mods!

Pacman
07-16-2003, 04:12 PM
and you cant forget about killerquad :D

aleroboy
07-16-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by FORTEEN3GT
2.139 my 60 foot.....

2.31...your 60 foot

my 1/4 was 14.3
your 1/4 was 14.6

does this weigh out right???

I guess yours was .3 slower due to grip!!!!!! !

Well at that track they dont let you run in the groove on street tires so traction is not there
at a higher track... Bandimere I ran a 2.2 60'
but the 1/4 mile was slower.
after the tranny is beefed up I'll be getting some better tires to lower the 60'

Are you running a dry system?
your engine should not be getting any hotter on the bottle
if it is you may be running lean

AaronGTR
07-16-2003, 07:18 PM
I just became dumber by reading the rest of this thread.:rolleyes:

FORTEEN3GT
07-17-2003, 08:05 AM
YEAH

95-GT
07-17-2003, 12:40 PM
aleroboy....do you know anyone by the name of Mitch Baker who runs at Bandimere with a older (78?) Camaro, orange and fast?

aleroboy
07-17-2003, 12:58 PM
nope I've only been to bandi once

95-GT
07-17-2003, 01:04 PM
ah. well he is the best bracket racing driver in all of Colorado. lol

aleroboy
07-17-2003, 01:05 PM
I'll have to ask mike if he knows him
he runs at bandi all the time

PACE
07-17-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by FORTEEN3GT

i can run a 13.8 ....thats a piece of cake.....!

Originally posted by FORTEEN3GT

glad you are no longer n2o....so that still makes me #1 lol
currently.....



My mama always said...."Don't say it....just show me."

You are over estimating the strength of your transmission my friend.

You may want to take notice that must of us talk sh*t AFTER we run the time.....not before.;).....Notice the title of this thread and the author's ET.

and don't forget to research! see thread below.
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3089

jaketuff
07-17-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by FORTEEN3GT
what times do you want....... ?

i can run a 13.8 ....thats a piece of cake.....!

a 13.5 maybe a little tricky....... might have to take a-part the hood, spare, and get a skinnier driver!!!!

but i gaurantee that i can hit the 13's....only if dhp doesnt screw it up!

Beware the DHP... it will not help hunting for power with big shots of N20.... Start a NEW THREAD in the Boost/Turbo/N20 Section... you can get answers that way....... This thread is going OT and will be closed just before the GAP.

JOUT