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I just thought I would share my experience with the newly installed silver faced gauges from the procarparts.com website. The most inconvenient part of this kit is it comes in 6 pieces that don't line up perfectly. On the speedo side, there is a small gap between the speedometer and the svs lights on the top. Also, the gauges come with only ONE hole to go over the 2 pieces next to the round part of the needle (where it turns). The second hole has to be drilled. Once the gauges were lined up and tested, both the speedometer and RPM needles stuck to the gauges and would not move. Finally, after an hour and a half of adjustments, the speedometer started working smoothly, but the RPMs have to be redone today. My final complaint is that the gauges arrived in dirty condition. I had to rub off dirt spots before i had them installed. To put it plain and simple, these gauges are poor quality. I must admit they look very good at night, so I plan on keeping them as long as they work.
pre_16365
07-11-2003, 06:54 AM
the ones i got burnt out in a week! hope you have better luck!
iceman
07-11-2003, 08:13 AM
You didn't take out one of the needle stops.. that's in the instructions on the site. Also if I were you I would have left off the covers for the dummy lights.. discussed in another thread too :/
AMRAAM4
07-11-2003, 09:14 AM
I have heard on many different car forums that all the gauges were pretty much junk. Hence the reason why I think they reduced their prices.
UNCTYPE-S
07-11-2003, 02:37 PM
i told you they wouldnt line up. you, me, and alot other people have had the same problem. its not a huge gap, but come on now, ur a company, make this **** right.
Seth- I didn't see any needle stop on that POS.
Update: I took my car back twice more today because the needles were sticking and still no luck. The speedometer is still sticking but not so bad now. This experience will lead me to another night of drinking. Thank you Amateur Car Parts.
iceman
07-11-2003, 03:01 PM
The needle stop is on the stock cluster. A little black pin. you just pull it out
Panacea
07-11-2003, 03:42 PM
Have you even bothered to read my How-To on installing these things?
First off, these gauges are meant to fit a 99-00 cluster. Next, this company is pretty much a r i c e r company, so what do you expect, BMW quality?
Be lucky you weren't one of the first few people to get them. I paid $100 for mine. The reason they lowered the price is because more people started ordering them, or so I would assume. They are the only company that makes these for our cars so you have to either live with them, or go with the PFYC ones.
As for your needles sticking, it's because your cluster is raising at the base of the needle; therefore, causing it to not move.
Get yourself some double-sided OUTDOOR carpet tape and put tape over the entire backing (Even in the little area by the base of the needles. Line it up, and stick it down. Your problem should be fixed. Also, try pushing the base of the needle down to make sure you didn't pull it up too much.
More to come.... Maybe...
GT1GuY
07-11-2003, 04:07 PM
Update: I took my car back twice more today because the needles were sticking and still no luck. The speedometer is still sticking but not so bad now. This experience will lead me to another night of drinking. Thank you Amateur Car Parts.
ahahaha that sh*t is funny
AaronGAGT
07-11-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Panacea
First off, these gauges are meant to fit a 99-00 cluster.
They are just meant to fit 99s. 00 have 2 needle stops on each side of the RPMs and the speedometer. 99s just have one needle stop. (1 for the RPMs, 1 for the speedometer)
Panacea
07-11-2003, 04:22 PM
Thanks Aaron, I knew the cluster changed in 01, I just assumed the 99 and 00 were the same.
AaronGAGT
07-11-2003, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Panacea
Thanks Aaron, I knew the cluster changed in 01, I just assumed the 99 and 00 were the same.
:thumbs:
AaronGAGT
07-11-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by pre_16365
the ones i got burnt out in a week! hope you have better luck!
burnt out?? did you do something wrong and did they reimburse you or anything?
Anyone else have this problem??
Panacea
07-11-2003, 06:50 PM
How exactly do they "Burn out"?!? They don't use light bulbs, they actually use a gel (or whatever the heck it is), which should never burn out. I'd say a wire came loose, or your rotary switch went bad.
Originally posted by Panacea
Have you even bothered to read my How-To on installing these things?
No, i probably should have read that first. The kid who installed them built a civic show car, and he's an expert with this stuff so I figured he already knew. I will try that outdoor carpet tape and see what happens.
They don't even light up now!!!!!!!!! F*CK THIS POS BULLS#%T PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!! NOBODY BUY THESE I AM SOOOOOOO PI$$$$$$$ED OFF RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
These are the worst aftermarket products released for the grand am!!! Just like the title says, GARBAGE!!!!!!!!
Rba007
07-12-2003, 10:22 PM
Id just like to add that I love my procarparts gauges for my SE...
Jagey
07-12-2003, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by RAZE
They don't even light up now!!!!!!!!! F*CK THIS POS BULLS#%T PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!! NOBODY BUY THESE I AM SOOOOOOO PI$$$$$$$ED OFF RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
These are the worst aftermarket products released for the grand am!!! Just like the title says, GARBAGE!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Rba007
Id just like to add that I love my procarparts gauges for my SE...
lol, such a mix of emotion. So entertaining.
GTluver
07-13-2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Jagey
lol, such a mix of emotion. So entertaining.
lol lol same here lol lol
peeps
07-13-2003, 01:35 AM
Leave your car on for about 5 minutes. On mine, it seems like they needed to build up the juice to power them. It took me a couple times thinking they were fubar before I realized this.....
UNCTYPE-S
07-13-2003, 01:53 AM
peeps that funny u say that cause with my underbody neons, they stay on for like 10 secs and then **** off when i first start the car, but after like 10 minutes with the car on, then my neons stay on all the time. i dont get these things, and u can see that in my thread in this section.
btw, outside of the minor fitment issues, i love my procarparts gauges.
Panacea
07-13-2003, 09:27 AM
Raze, check your wiring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
99.9% of the time that's the problem. Make sure that all your wires are STILL attached & Crimped good. Then come back to us.
AaronGAGT
07-13-2003, 01:43 PM
It seems like most people like their gauges and arent having problems then?? If most feedback is good, I'm gettin'em.
UNCTYPE-S
07-13-2003, 01:44 PM
i would say its half and half.
AaronGAGT
07-13-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by UNC0808
i would say its half and half.
That bad??? Christ... I dont know what to do... seems like most people like them though, i havent really seen too many people with problems except for RAZE
UNCTYPE-S
07-13-2003, 01:55 PM
are u kidding me, did u happen to read what i wrote and some other people wrote? mine dont line up right and so do alot of others as well. we should take a toll of how many people have had problems with their gauges. i know of at least 5 people that can say their stuff went wrong. like i said, i love the way they look, but they dont fit right. their about 2 centimeters short of covering my stock cluster.
but if u like them, then all power to ya.
AaronGAGT
07-13-2003, 01:57 PM
I love the way they look too... but the only thing holding me back is the gap they have.
Does anyone have a pic of what I'd be dealing with?
UNCTYPE-S
07-13-2003, 02:03 PM
sorry i dont have a daytime shot but i have a nighttime shot of my white faced indiglo if u wanna see.
AaronGAGT
07-13-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by UNC0808
sorry i dont have a daytime shot but i have a nighttime shot of my white faced indiglo if u wanna see.
Can you see the gap or whatever?
UNCTYPE-S
07-13-2003, 02:20 PM
dont have any closeup pic of them during the day. sorry.
Panacea
07-13-2003, 05:26 PM
Aaron, is the 2000's speedo and tach gauges raised up from the dummy lights, or is it perfectly flat like the 2001+?
Are you going to the GAP? If so I can help you install them, if you decide to get them.
Take a look at my How-To. If you have the raised Tach/Speedo like mine, you can see how they look. These aren't Grade A quality. They're just made by a company run by foreigners trying to make a buck or two. Remember, this company targets Ri Ce...
AaronGAGT
07-13-2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Panacea
Aaron, is the 2000's speedo and tach gauges raised up from the dummy lights, or is it perfectly flat like the 2001+?
Not sure what the 2001+ look like... sadly I will not be at GAP.
MattsGTP
07-13-2003, 09:18 PM
is the 2000's speedo and tach gauges raised up from the dummy lights, or is it perfectly flat
'00 GT speedo+tach are raised.
UNCTYPE-S
07-13-2003, 09:19 PM
aarongagt- keep looking at the thread i started in this section, and that will tell you what most people think of them, as far as fitment issues and what not. that will give u more of an idea and decisioning.
They light up now wtf
Panacea - I will be at GAP. do you think you could make some adjustments to mine if I bring the tape you're talking about? My frustrations have led to insomnia and eating disorders.
AaronGAGT
07-14-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by RAZE
My frustrations have led to insomnia and eating disorders.
lol funny guy!
Panacea
07-14-2003, 11:00 AM
Raze, I'll try and help ya... I have tape so don't worry about it. if you hooked it up to where I have mine, it's possible it's not contacting all the time.
The stock wires are so tiny that it's hard to use a wire tap and not have it loose contact every once in a while. Anyway, we'll see what's up.
CDW00GT
07-14-2003, 02:03 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. I have installed a couple of those sets. I don't use the 2 pieces that cover the dummy lights. I have had problems with getting them to stick on solid so I used some "Right Stuff" gasket maker. Hey the stuff works on my tail lights so why not use it on my gauges!! I had a problem with one set not powering on right away but when I changed the order of where they connect to the harness they worked...
Robznob11
07-14-2003, 03:42 PM
I used clear silicone to install mine and gave it a chance to set up a bit befor I installed them, two sided tape is bound to fall off.:D
Update: The only thing that went right at GAP for me was Panacea's install of these gauges. He took them all off and re-adhered them, leaving the dummy lights off. I noticed a few people at GAP did the same so i figured maybe that was my problem. First, he left the dummy lights on and the gauges worked only for a few hours. Then he took them off and 3 days later, they work fine. Thank you mike (panacea) and the beer cooler is always open to you :D
Panacea
07-29-2003, 06:15 AM
Not a problem, glad I could help! I'm glad it worked out for you too.
GTluver
07-31-2003, 03:26 AM
hey.......i just installed this gauges yesterday.....i luv em.....couldnt have spent $55 in any better way (other then porn tapes of course :D) anyways......i ran into a couple problems that ill fix soon.......ya have to make ur own hole in the tacho and speedometer gauges.......they only come w/ one whole and the 2000+s have 2 holes on each gauge.....the other problem is that i accidently pulled the fuel gauge needle out so its stuck.....doesnt move.......ill be fixing that soon tho.....ill snap some not-so-good pix tomorrow....
p.s. they lined up perfectly for me..... ( 99.1% i'd say)
AaronGAGT
07-31-2003, 03:30 AM
hey.. u dont have to drill any holes.. just pull out the extra needle stops
GTluver
07-31-2003, 07:21 AM
yea i did that but i thought what if those needles were there for a reason.........so i was worried that the gauge needes would be flying and doing 380s so instead i drilled holes (bad idea too :( )oh well......what did everyone used as adhesive......i used quicktite (dries/bonds almost instantly)
Panacea used double sided carpet tape for mine. It's VERY thin.
Panacea
07-31-2003, 04:05 PM
99's didn't come with the second needle stop... hasn't hurt my car yet.
Yes, I opted to use double-sided interior/exterior carpet tape because it's extremely thin and very sticky.
AaronGAGT
07-31-2003, 08:42 PM
Hey panacea and Raze... how does the tape hold up in the intense heat of summer?? I dont know, but i used to have some double sided foam tape holding up somethin in my car and it liquified.
peeps
07-31-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by AaronGAGT
Hey panacea and Raze... how does the tape hold up in the intense heat of summer?? I dont know, but i used to have some double sided foam tape holding up somethin in my car and it liquified. My double sided poster tape is holding up just fine in the Texas heat
Panacea
07-31-2003, 11:02 PM
Foam tape is too thick. The tape has to be paper thin!
I have both double-sided poster tape, and double-sided indoor/outdoor carpet tape, and both are holding up nicely!
The carpet tape is the best and the stickiest, so use that.
It's only been a week since Panacea used the double sided tape on mine. So far, it's holding up well and taking the heat better than Panacea's skin. :D
AaronGAGT
08-01-2003, 12:53 AM
does anywhere have double sided carpet tape?
GTluver
08-01-2003, 10:38 PM
we cant post attachments yet? :rage: wtf
GTluver
08-04-2003, 04:18 AM
finally....attachments are back....heres a pic of mine installed last wk....
GTluver
08-04-2003, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by GTluver
finally....attachments are back....heres a pic of mine installed last wk....
another one....
GTluver
08-04-2003, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by GTluver
another one....
and fer da heck o' it, one of my shifter overlyay....
Which ones did you buy? Mine's a different shade of blue.
Panacea
08-04-2003, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by AaronGAGT
does anywhere have double sided carpet tape?
If you have a Menards nearby they will definately carry it (that's where I got mine). Otherwise, a place like Lowes or Home Depot will carry it.
UNCTYPE-S
08-04-2003, 12:25 PM
yeah mine doesnt look anything like that.
bswpu
08-04-2003, 08:45 PM
i just put my overlays on today. everything appears to be doing great, but the speedo needle doesnt seem to be as responsive as before. any ideas on what to do/try?? it kinda "floats" up as i gas, and "floats" down when im braking.
Brian
GTluver
08-04-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by RAZE
Which ones did you buy? Mine's a different shade of blue.
do u mean the cluster overlay or the shifter one? the cluster one = procarparts, and the shifter is from autoaccents.....maybe my chepo digi cam is giving off a diff color?:confused: cuz i know some cameras, for example, give off an orange color when the real color is red lol
jscarano13
08-04-2003, 10:48 PM
yeah i hear ya i had a cheap digital camera and everything that was real blue turned out almost green! but now i have a canon powershot and i love it!!!
I was talking about the cluster overlay. The quality of your digital camera is probably the reason why it looks different than mine. Nevermind :)
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