Does GM "Get it"? [Archive] - GrandAmGT.com Forum

VaGT

09-22-2003, 11:16 AM

YOUR BRAKES ARE THE WORST IN THE INDUSTRY!

So why brag about it?

On the concept / show car section of their news they have a Sunfire listed. In the description, it has...

link is here..
http://www.pontiac.com/concept/index.jsp?brand=grandam&pagename=models_prices

"Suspension-SPO road racing/rally kit (Grand Am disc brakes and independent rear suspension)"

Using that as a selling point?

It seems they might be marketing this as addons you can do to your sunfire, but who in their right mind would put GrandAm brakes on their Sunfire? The same brakes with the yearly TSBs.

What will it take for GM to finally realize that there isn't a person alive who wouldn't pay a couple hundred more for their car if they were getting a reliable brake solution. ...contract it out to Baer or something and then brag about that.

snwman

09-22-2003, 11:53 AM

our brakes suck but however the sunfire is a much smaller lighter car so I am sure they are much better than the factory sunfire parts.

mfuller

09-22-2003, 12:02 PM

Yup, also bear in mind that the Sunfire comes with rear drum brakes and a beam rear axle, the GA rear discs and IRS are definitely a step up.

GTLUVA

09-22-2003, 12:13 PM

My mom has a 00 Sunfire Se Coupe and the brakes are terrible on that thing it takes forever to stop compared to my brakes on my 03 GT Coupe I think the brakes are lot more better but I just need to give my brakes some more miles on them and they will probably be going out soon but right now I have 5000 miles on my original brakes and I'm happy they are going strong so far:thumbs:

PontiacGT2K

09-22-2003, 12:35 PM

It's all size of brake compared to weight of car.....grand am weighs too much for the brakes we're given, sunfires don't.

VaGT

09-22-2003, 01:40 PM

PontiacGT2K

09-22-2003, 02:23 PM

Speaking of lucky....I've had my Powerslots/EBC greenstuff pads for 4k miles. The Powerslots are warped, and EBC pads are gone. Lucky.

cavingman

09-22-2003, 02:27 PM

mine lasted till 15k :D

illsmokeyou

09-22-2003, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by GTLUVA
My mom has a 00 Sunfire Se Coupe and the brakes are terrible on that thing it takes forever to stop compared to my brakes on my 03 GT Coupe I think the brakes are lot more better but I just need to give my brakes some more miles on them and they will probably be going out soon but right now I have 5000 miles on my original brakes and I'm happy they are going strong so far:thumbs:

wow, brakes going out soon on a 5K car, hell... I still consider my car pretty much brand new @ 20K, out of any car i have ever owned, i wouldnt ever think about brake replacement just after 20K, but for GM apparently, this seems to be normal.

Grand ams brakes and their incompetence is nothing short of unspeakable

zrman

09-23-2003, 08:18 AM

What I can't understand is why a company the size of GM can't perfect such a vital piece of equipment as brakes. By now they ought to have it down. What are they paying their engineers for?

MafiatRomo

09-23-2003, 12:21 PM

to sleep?

snwman

09-23-2003, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by PontiacGT2K
Speaking of lucky....I've had my Powerslots/EBC greenstuff pads for 4k miles. The Powerslots are warped, and EBC pads are gone. Lucky.

seems like we have similar luck. mine powerslots and ebc pads did the same. but turned out I had a bad Right Caliper and the right side brake hose had a small leak in it which i sure didnt help any.

CATAssassin

09-23-2003, 07:30 PM

my brakes are like brand new and I have 71k on the car, about 15k on the brakes. Rotors are a bit warped but I assume there factory anyways.

Greed4Speed

09-23-2003, 10:09 PM

Both the GA and my SS have had break warping issues. GM rotors suck. Napa replacement rotors are far superior to the stockers.

1/2dolla

09-23-2003, 10:46 PM

Yeah I can agree, the rotors suck.

I have a '91 toyota with the original rotors. still smooth when stopping.