Need to know.. Best single sub setup for the $..

[CruzinGT33]

Please let me know of a decent single sub and Amp setup?
I'm looking just for a little thumb in the setup..Thanks to all..

[2002GT]

I have 1 Eclipse 10 in a vented box with a Memphis PR400 amp... that seems to do the job... i have also hooked that sub up to a rockford 120aII anp and pounds decent... if u are like me this is the setup for you...

i have been thru many systems and this one is clean and hits good but not too loud...

i just sold my MTX 6500D amp and 2 Memphis Studi 12's... and I am happy with my current set-up (and that was a big change)

[zx7ninja]

IDMax in 2.5 cubic foot vented box tuned to 28 hz with a good 500-800 rms pushibg it. Incredible SQ and it gets loud to.

[brchn1]

Crossfire BMF 12 in a small vented box tuned around 38 hz. Fire it toward one of the fender wells. Give it about 500-600 watts RMS and it will rock your world. We did that once in a 95 Grand am and everyone thought he had two twelves. It was awsome. Highly recommended! If you don't want to spend a whole lot I would suggest maybe Bazooka bass tubes. Peace, Lee

[AmIGrand]

How much bass do you want, how loud do you want your system, are you doing more to improve the setup or just adding bass, do you have the "normal" system or Monsoon, how much space can you sacrifice, and what do you want to spend? :D

[CruzinGT33]

Ok... i'm more of a Rock person.. so I want around 3 times the bass put out by 6x9s, I'm about to have Infinity Kappa component front and back setup, with a Pioneer deh-p7300, Since I'm taking out the 6x9s to put in this component system, I'll need some bass, and I want clearity as #1, and space saving as #2.. I have to haul around Ice Hockey gear. So I need as much trunk space as possible... I was looking to, have a box that I can build into a corner of the trunk... Basically, one thats gonna turn heads but not rattle my car apart... And I'm willing to drop a couple hundred on the setup.. stick with popular brands... anything else, please ask...
Thanks to all..


Also, Should I get a 4-channel amp for the coponent sets? what would be suggested?

[AmIGrand]

First off - don't waste money on components in the rear - they're BEHIND YOU. Get the best seperates you can afford for the front, and tick with coxial speakers in back, in the stock size. The difference in cost can be applied to either better fronts or a better amp.

For an amp, a 5 channel is gonna do you better than just a sub amp, worth the extra dough to bring out the best in your new speakers. There are LOTS of good ones out there right now for between $249 and $999 new, less on ebay!

A single 10 or 12 inch sub in a sealed box will yield the best results if you want "more than stock" but aren't looking to blow people away outside the car. Since JL doesn't make a Stealthbox for the N-bodies (despite my persistance, lol), you'll either look at a custom made to fit deal (expensive), or a simple wedge-type sealed box to fit comfortably in one corner. As for the woofer itself - opinions vary a lot here! Everyone knows I'm a big JL Audio fn, and the W0 series packs a lot of punch for the dollar. MTX 6000 series, Adire Shiva, Treo TS series, Infinity Reference or Perfect (perfect needs more power, though) - the list goes on. I don't mention Fosgate or Alpine on purpose, but I suppose you'd hafta consider them too. I also fail to mention the "newcomer" brands like Audiobahn, personal preference will not allow me to recomend them. AVOID SONY. ;)

[FyberDesignz]

I agree with AmIGrand on the selection choice and myself too a fan of JL Audio. I just did a custom box in my friends '00 Grand Prix for a single 12 and amp. It was simple since he does not have hood supports that invade the trunk when it is closed, but a setup similar to his could be built. Like AmIGrand stated custom = expensive but it could be done in the neighborhood of 300 for the box. I have attached a picture of his setup, very custom looking.

[CruzinGT33]

Ok, first off.. Thanks very much for giving me your input...
What I have gathered:
Components up front
keep 6x9s in back
5 channel amp for speakers and sub?

Any chance you could Match a sub w/amp that would push Infinity kappa components and Kappa 6x9s?
I'm lookin for an exact model # of both... that would work..
Thanks again fellas...

I like that setup in the GTP... Thats similar to what I want to do.

[AmIGrand]

A quick search on ebay turned up these rather good deals: A HiFonics 800 watt (actually realistic) 5 channel for $228 Buy It Now, an MTX 895 (similar/same power as the HiFonics) 5 channel for $269 buy it now, an Eclipse 5 channel (1/3 less real power than the last two) for $202 buy it now, and an Alpine MRV-F405 5 channel (very good amp) for $299 Buy It Now. Any of these amps would be about perfect for you.

For subs, any of the subs listed above would be great in a single 4 ohm application, upgrade to DVC subs for a little more like the W3's and get more power from the 5 channel amp.

When you say "leave the 6x9's", you will replace them, but with 6x9's instead of components - the Monsoon 6x9's will not work with the new system. So - any of the subs previously mentioned combined with any of the amps mentioned, with components in teh front and 6x9's in back, will sound awesome!! :thumbs:

[CruzinGT33]

Sweet thanks man!!.. yeah I meant Infinity kappa 6x9s..
I'm thinkin about that Alpine amp, with a good JL 12w3 in the back...

[CruzinGT33]

I found this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3050270973&category=48614
What 5 channel amp would be able to push this?

[brchn1]

First up I would like to give props to FyberDesignz, that is sweet work. As far as components go I agree with Iamgrand. Keep either the stock 6x9's or upgrade to a basic co-axial. Then drop in a sweet set of comps up front. Now here is where I differ. I would suggest a 4 channel amp over a 5 channel amp. I would run one set of outputs to the front comps. Then run the other set bridged to a single sub. I would run the rears off the rears of the deck. Then put the money you saved there into a good EQ. Either a nice 1/2 din parametric to fill in the rest of the deck opening or a trunk mount 20-30 band eq in the back. As far as your choice in component set, have you listened to Infinity? If you have and liked them all the power to ya. If you haven't then I suggest listening to them and many others before buying. So if you need a wish list from the store I work at, here we go.
Deck: Pioneer DEH-P3500 $230
Amp: Crossfire VR-804 100x4 $475
Front speakers: Crossfire SR6.0 $250
Rear speakers: Pioneer TSA-6960 $100
Sub: Crossfire DB3-12 $150
This is all just my opinion, but don't get stuck with one brand because of there name, buy because YOU like it. Peace, Lee

[CruzinGT33]

Thanks.. I agree... I'm tryin to do a all infinity set.. But if that sub I listed above isn't a good one. then let me know...

brchn1, so for my purpose you think I can run the rear Infinity 6x9s off of the stock amp? or bypass and use the Pioneers internal amp?...
Would you say that this will be the most money saving way?
I'm not sure If I want an external EQ, I know the HU has a basic one. DEH-P7300

[FyberDesignz]

Thanks for the props brchn1. I cannot stress enough the importance to listen to equipment and see if it fits your listening taste and your budget. You might find cheaper speakers that sound better to you then more expensive ones. As far as a 4 channel versus 5 channel, I think going with the 4 channel and bridging 2 channels for the sub and then the other 2 channels for the front components will work fine. Run the rear channels off deck power and it will be fine. The ideal soundstage has all music coming from in fornt of you. Think of a concert hall. This said the rear 6x9s are simply rear fill and to provide ambiance(sp). They do not require as much power to do this as they would if u wanted sound to come from behind you. This is why there is no need to invest in a rear component set either.

For those interested the 'www' button is a link to more custom enclosures I have done as well as more pics of the Grand Prix.

[AmIGrand]

That sub would be excellent, and that's a GREAT deal. ;)

I suggested a 5 channel for simplicity's sake, it was not indicated that he was interested in a competition sound. You're not gonna save more than $50 - MAX - on a 4 channel comparable to the 5 channels listed. The suggestion of a 4 channel amp running the fronts and sub with the rears off the deck is a good one. Running the 5 channel will give you more ultimate volume at the expense of "proper imaging" - but if you want imaging THAT bad, we're in a whole new realm! Kickpanels, sound damping, etc....

Anyway, there's no wrong choice there. Keep in mind that if you go the 5 channel route, a DVC sub with 4 ohm coils will be best, if you go the 4 channel route, a single 4 ohm coil or dual 2 or dual 8 ohm coils will be the way to go.

Happy shopping, enjoy your system, and keep us posted!! :thumbs:

[CruzinGT33]

Shall do... and I'm interested in fabricating my own box.. so If any of you have pics or suggestions for the back of an 01' GT, please let me know... I'm interested to hear from all of you GA gurus...

[FyberDesignz]

Fiberglass it:D :D

If you want it to be custom then thats the route I would take, just read all you can and look at as many step by step pictures as possible. Hot me up on AIM if u want to talk, I am always interested in helping new comers...

AIM - publicchamps50

[Green99GT]

thezeb.com....10 or 12" vegas...and what ever you wanna push them with....mmmmmm...big ported box though

[brchn1]

I agree with Green99GT, in the fact of doing a ported box if you have enough room. If you are doing a single sub then port it to get every bit of it you can. I would run the rears off the deck power rather then the factory amp as the Pioneer is probably cleaner. I agree with Iamgrand in the fact that if you just want clean loud music power up those rear speakers too. No-one can stress this enough but listen to every brand of speaker you can get near before settling down on one brand. Don't listen to anyone but yourself as to what sounds good. As far as custom goes, if you are up to it definetly Fiberglass. But there are some pretty trick stuff you can do with good old fasion stuff like wook, carpet, and vynal. Good luck, Lee

[MIAaron]

I know you said name brands, but I have to mention Elemental Designs has e8a's on sale for $145. Very small box, good sound quality.

Edit:
Doesn't Newton have 2 50x2 Alpine amps for sale?

[CruzinGT33]

Well.. I bought that sub I posted earlier... infinity 12.1d...
now I am looking for a good 5 channel amp....

[brchn1]

Crossfire makes a real sweet 5 channel amp that I guess has been getting awsome reveiws. Its the VR705D. It suggested retail is $599. I would sell it at $490. It is rated at 50x4 and 150x1 all at 4ohms. 100x4 and 300x1 all at 2ohms. These ratings are RMS and at 12 volts. Good luck, Lee

[CruzinGT33]

Ok.. I talked to a guy thats running the same setup...
How about a PPI 6 channel amp?

[brchn1]

PPI makes a good amp. Real clean and nice looking. The only bad thing is the price, but then I haven't heard if they have come back to reality since DEI bought them. Peace, Lee