View Full Version : Auto.com: 2005 Grand Am News
http://www.auto.com/industry/orion2_20021002.htm
FYI - This will give you an idea of what the 2005 GA will look like (it is based on this platform: Epsilon)
This is the SAAB 9-3:
http://www.saabusa.com/main/image/branding/93_sedan_intro_US.jpg
Treviathon
10-02-2002, 08:13 AM
3.6L 250HP with a stick!!! drool.....
mfuller
10-02-2002, 08:24 AM
If it looks anything like the new 9-3 Vector, I'll be very pleased. The new 9-3 is the best-looking Saab I've ever seen. Where exactly is the Orion plant?
MidwestJosh
10-02-2002, 08:38 AM
Let me get this right...
Hard-top vert
3.6L 250 hp
6 speed manual
optional AWD
Please tell me, where do I sign the dotted line.
Roush GT
10-02-2002, 10:16 AM
it also says they may rename the car w t f ? :( :mad:
jbh1130
10-02-2002, 10:35 AM
They can call it whatever they feel like! Can't wait until it comes out....I'll be first in line to get one!
new GA should kill the competors, what do you think?
RamAirGT
10-02-2002, 01:05 PM
ok, i'm confused. i thought the Grand Prix was suppose to be built on the Epsilon platform and resemble the 9-3. Doesn't that mean our cars will get bigger in size. not cool. i'm a little guy, so when i drive mt dad's GTP, i look like a old lady. i thought GA were considered closer to compact. well, if it has 250 hp, 6-speed, convert, the damn thing can look like a hoopty and i'll still drive it :D . i'm just curious about the price tag
SikMindz
10-02-2002, 01:15 PM
Time to start saving....:(
PontiacGTboy
10-02-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by RamAirGT
ok, i'm confused. i thought the Grand Prix was suppose to be built on the Epsilon platform and resemble the 9-3. Doesn't that mean our cars will get bigger in size. not cool. i'm a little guy, so when i drive mt dad's GTP, i look like a old lady. i thought GA were considered closer to compact. well, if it has 250 hp, 6-speed, convert, the damn thing can look like a hoopty and i'll still drive it :D . i'm just curious about the price tag
It seems the Epsilon platform is going to be a VERY VERY versatile platform. I think it can be streched, shrunk, and twisted all sorts of ways and still be considered the epsilon platorm. just because it is built on the same platform as another car doesnt mean it has to look anything like it. Take the Malibu and the grand am and aleros. the malibu looks nothing like either but both are on N-body platforms. Camary and the toyota highlander. same platforms.
TLS2000
10-04-2002, 06:21 PM
Last I heard, the next GP will be built on a modified W platform again. After that, who knows. I bet that it moves onto the Sigma platform with Cadillac and Holden.
Just what I wanted to read.
They will probably keep the name though, why change the name of one of your best selling cars? It wouldn't make any sense unless they thought of a name that has some kick to it, who cares though. Its got 250hp, 6speed and will likely be the same size and weight that it is now.
Guessing this:
a sub 20 dollar car with a high end GT model around the low 20's that can do 0-60 in less than 6.5seconds and do the 1/4 in the mid 14's. Sounds good to me. I'll just wait till they come out and buy one. Likes the idea of putting the 3.6L in there too.
Add 4grand and you'll have a s/ced GA with over 325hp?:thumbs:
Well just have to see.
cavingman
10-05-2002, 09:40 PM
damnit! why didnt i wait?!
Thats a long 1 and a half to 2 years. You would have drove yourself insane waiting by the time it came out lol.
Plus this gives you time to fool around with the current engine we have.;) *you haven't seen close to what the engine is capable of yet, experiment and you will find out*
Garagegoblin
10-16-2002, 09:37 AM
all I know is I am not going to be like the people with the 1999 GA's that hate the car cause of all its problems, I will be waiting for the 2nd year of the model. I don't want no bugs.
lrymal
10-16-2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Garagegoblin
all I know is I am not going to be like the people with the 1999 GA's that hate the car cause of all its problems, I will be waiting for the 2nd year of the model. I don't want no bugs.
Don't hate mine at all. In fact, it is the best and most reliable car I have owned. The secret is to purchase GM vehicles when General Motors is on strike as I did!:p
And to top it off, the chassis appears to be the same through all these years, even to 2003. That means I invested in a vehicle that has significant longetivity.
Garagegoblin
10-16-2002, 09:50 AM
I didn't mean to be bad mouthing, it just seems like the 99 version ppl complain a lot more about. but then again they have also had theirs for a much longer time than I have had mine. That is a good idea too by the way.
cavingman
10-16-2002, 10:56 AM
99 was the 1st year of this model GA. 1st model years ALWAYS have problems.
Garagegoblin
10-16-2002, 10:57 AM
that is the way I was seeing it too.
rjs_boy
10-16-2002, 08:30 PM
I have a '99 GT w/ 70500k on it. Got it late '98. Love it.
Only problems I've had with it was the Upper Intake gasket, Valve Gaskets, and Oil Pan Gasket all under warranty (at 55000k miles). Plus the annoying tire/wheel noise crap. Which was finally fixed, and ever since changing to Dunlop tires never shown up again, plus much better traction than the stock tires.
Lucie
10-16-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Garagegoblin
...I will be waiting for the 2nd year of the model. I don't want no bugs.
my father taught me to do this as well... (hence my 2000 gagt).
let's see 2006... plenty of time to start saving.
:clap: this is exciting.
BransAm
10-18-2002, 12:41 AM
Thats Gonna be a SICK ride!!!! I will defenatly trade for that if it does turn out like that. Man that would be sweet. I want a Stick but a 5speed auto is Good too!
nokiatech
10-19-2002, 08:34 PM
Damn....
This just killed any thought of new car shopping anytime soon. If it looks anything like that SAAB and keeps those numbers then I'm all over it.
SCHWEET! :thumbs:
Red99GT
10-24-2002, 02:29 PM
Me want one, looks like I will be wating until then to trade in my GAGT coupe...250HP,
sweeeet!!!! :thumbs: :thumbs:
rydog
10-24-2002, 06:41 PM
Now all they need to do is throw a s/c option on there:thumbs:
Dought there will be a S/C version............well, since there is going to be a proformance division for Pontiac I'll take that back. I just don't see it coming in the first year though.
From what I've heard from people, the G6 is basicly what the Grand Am will look like. Alot of things will change though, because they perposly do concepts like that to see how "we" react and they will change the things we don't like and keep the things we do. But still, the G6 concept is kind of a hint of what the GA will look like. Just don't take the concept to seriously though ok. One thing I hope that they do is use the interior of the G6 concept for the GA, it looks sweet.
XMBlackGT1
11-07-2002, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Garagegoblin
all I know is I am not going to be like the people with the 1999 GA's that hate the car cause of all its problems, I will be waiting for the 2nd year of the model. I don't want no bugs.
Thats EXACTLY right. Thats what I will be doing too- only if they make a 2 door coupe. later
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