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jayfly07
11-10-2003, 02:59 PM
I have just recently bought a GA so i'm still figuring things out, please bare with me. I noticed that behind the ram air slits there are plastic plates. Now i'm assuming these are there to prevent debris and/or water from entering the air intake, but wouldn't the filter take care of that? I just thought it kind of defeated the purpose of the air slits or "ram air" if the air wasn't even able to flow through freely. So, what would happen if these were removed? More power? Harmful? Just a thought...

EBlend
11-10-2003, 03:49 PM
u not getting anything from that stupid ramair anything, so don't sweat

AznGA
11-10-2003, 05:47 PM
I am guessing the ram air cover is not a straight through design to prevent debris to go straight to the filter. That's why it's restrictive and it's overated.

rocketfast123
11-10-2003, 07:51 PM
Ram Airhttp://www.grandamgt.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=279865

teambeechstreet
11-10-2003, 08:09 PM
yeah, the Ram Air is cr@p. Get a CAI!

safemode
11-10-2003, 08:22 PM
our ram-air is a cold-air-intake, just a very bad one. Running the cold air intake all the way down to the fog light is stupid too. Ideally you could run the cold air pipes smoothly over to the front of the car or at least some point where the air from intakes over there can be directed to the cai directly.

SwtGrndAmGT01
11-11-2003, 07:47 AM
The stock Ram Air, is horrible, it doesn't do much for the car at all. I would replace it with a cold air intake. There are a few companies that make em.

PontiacGTboy
11-11-2003, 08:55 AM
If i understand what you are talking about, the plates are to direct the air up and over the cars frame into the ram air ducts. You know the cover that says ram air on it? the plates are to direct the air up into that, and from there it goes into the pipeing that in turn goes into the bottom of the airbox. It isnt your filters job to keep water out. The filter is on the top half of the airbox. Any water that might get all the way through the ducting and pipes will drain out of the holes in the bottom of the airbox before being taken in by the engine. All these plates do is keep the air from running directly into the radiator and "forces" it into the ram air system.

Jagey
11-11-2003, 09:10 AM
Both have advantages and disadvantage
Ram Air advantages: -It's there and there's nothing more to do to it
-It's easy to clean and maintain the filter
Ram Air Disadvantages: -It does nothing for performance
-The piping junk adds weight and takes up space

CAI Advantages : -Increased performance
-Cooler sound
-Cool to tell people you have a cold air intake

CAI disadvantages: -Greater chance of sucking up water
-Greater chance of soaking filter with water and boggin down performance
-Higher maintainance, harder to get to filter to clean it
-It costs money
-From certain companies, you'll be waiting about a year to receive one


weigh your options and make your own decision, don't listen to everyone and just jump on a CAI without knowing the advantages and disadvantages

killerhound
11-11-2003, 11:29 AM
The Ram Air is so restrictive, and only kicks in around highway speeds. Get a CAI. It is harder to maintain, but you also get the increased performance out of it. Running it behind the foglight like most people have it still conceals it very well from water and debris from the road. I was skeptical about this at first, but I'm glad I did it. It sounds cool too :D

ryGT1
11-11-2003, 10:46 PM
We did the math a couple years ago and you would have to be going 180 mph+ for the Ram Air to actually work.

schizm99
11-11-2003, 11:08 PM
Pull out the ram air system!! It's junk! I pulled mine out left the stock box in place and stretched a nylon over the opening. I got sick of cleaning wood chips and dirt out of my air box.

jayfly07
11-15-2003, 10:18 PM
Wait a second. Everyone keeps saying that the "ram air" doesn't work unless you are going 70 or over. If the air flow can carry woodchips into the airbox then obviously air is flowing into the airbox more so than anyone thinks. Maybe you all have been too harsh on my ram air. It's better than nothing.........

teambeechstreet
11-16-2003, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by jayfly07
Wait a second. Everyone keeps saying that the "ram air" doesn't work unless you are going 70 or over. If the air flow can carry woodchips into the airbox then obviously air is flowing into the airbox more so than anyone thinks. Maybe you all have been too harsh on my ram air. It's better than nothing.........

if u do a search, there are a lot of threads about ram air vs CAI or WAI. Everyone has pretty much concluded that the RAM Air is just a sale gimmick. I've only been posting here since February, but I've read a ton of text about Ram Air, CAI, and the WAI, and seriously, these guys know practically every inch of the GAs, and most of them know that the Ram Air aint sh*t. The only real "Ram Air" setup that works, from what I've read, is the ram air in the WS6.

VaGT
11-16-2003, 11:50 AM
The Ram Air is better than having nothing. Much of the gain saw from a CAI is from the use of a cone filter.

PontiacGTboy
11-16-2003, 12:02 PM
Really all the ram air does is feeds colder air to the engine. it is more like a factory cold air intake than anything. I just dont see how you can build any pressure in that airbox when it has an opening in the side to let all the pressure back out.

cavingman
11-16-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by jayfly07
Wait a second. Everyone keeps saying that the "ram air" doesn't work unless you are going 70 or over. If the air flow can carry woodchips into the airbox then obviously air is flowing into the airbox more so than anyone thinks. Maybe you all have been too harsh on my ram air. It's better than nothing.........

no, nothings being rammed in there, except the random **** that happens to be flyin down the road and into your nostrils.

killerhound
11-16-2003, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by PontiacGTboy
Really all the ram air does is feeds colder sir to the engine. it is more like a factory cold air intake than anything. I just dont see how you can build any pressure in that airbox when it has an opening in the side to let all the pressure back out.

He's right. Take apart the Ram Air system and there is a tube going down, and eventually comes out behind the headlight to nothing...just open space.