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waffler
10-05-2002, 06:35 PM
DETROIT - General Motors will produce a 7.5-liter V-12 engine to be used in future Cadillacs and will launch a family of overhead-cam, high output V-6 engines.

GM also is revamping its pushrod V-6 engine family to include displacements of up to 3.9 liters and equipping the engines with fuel-saving cylinder deactivation technology, the automaker said Friday, Oct. 4, during a press event at its proving grounds in Milford, Mich.

Another addition to the automaker's portfolio is a six-speed, rear-wheel-drive automatic transmission that will go into production in 2005.

The powertrain changes will enable GM to reduce emissions and improve fuel economy of future vehicles while offering higher performance.

Cadillac was the last GM division to offer a V-12, back in the 1930s. The coming V-12 is a new design, GM said. It will have an aluminum block and cylinder heads, double overhead cam-shafts and four valves per cylinder.

GM said the V-12 would produce significantly more than 500 hp but would not be more specific. Production volumes will be limited to fewer than 5,000 units a year, said Thomas Stephens, group vice president of GM Powertrain. He would not say whether the engine will be built at a GM plant or by an outside contractor. A 7.5-liter V-12 concept engine in the Cadillac Cien concept car was rated at 750 hp.

The V-12 was designed to fit in the same space as the V-8 engines GM uses in full-sized trucks and sport-utilities, Stephens said. But it won't fit in the engine bay of the upcoming Cadillac XLR roadster, he said.

The new overhead-cam V-6 engine family will have displacements ranging from 2.8 liters to 3.8 liters, aluminum blocks and cylinder heads and four valves per cylinder. GM said the first engine from the family will be a 3.6-liter V-6 that makes 255 hp and 250 pounds-feet of torque through technologies such as variable valve timing. It did not disclose when the engine will be introduced or in which vehicle.

The first of the revamped pushrod V-6 engines, using cylinder deactivation technology, will be a 3.5-liter unit in the redesigned Chevrolet Malibu, which goes on sale next year. The engine will run on only three cylinders when power demands are light, such as cruising at highway speeds.

i think we all know which car will be getting the 3.6l!

VTECSiGAH8R
10-06-2002, 01:12 PM
Wow, if GM puts that 3.6L in the GAs, watch out Altima and Maxima, and forget about the Accord V6.

Gimli
10-07-2002, 08:41 AM
GM also is revamping its pushrod V-6 engine family to include displacements of up to 3.9 liters and equipping the engines with fuel-saving cylinder deactivation technology, the automaker said Friday, Oct. 4, during a press event at its proving grounds in Milford, Mich.

I think this confirms the 3.9l GA :D

I'm eager to see the HP-rating of the Malibu with "only" 3.5l :thumbs:

WOLF
10-07-2002, 10:07 PM
Hint hint, the 3.5L will make between 220-240hp in the Mali. If you look back a bit you'll notice that there is a Olds. running on a 3.5L right now.

Thing is, they are working on a concept car called the SS that will most likely make it into production, which will have RWD and a V-8. They have yet to say what car it is going to be but there are rumors that it will be wicked Mali or a Impala. It looks like a Impala from the styling cues and the Impala will be changing to RWD so its possible your looking at pics of the next Impala but I could be wrong.

Nifty thing about the new V-6's is that it should be real easy to get alot of backing from aftermarket shops since these engines will not only be used in the US, but in other Countries as well. *cough cough Opel cough*

*grins* so far it seems the GA will get a 3.6L, but since there are going to be a SVT type proformance division for Pontaic, larger engines could be crammed in there. We will just have to see.

Kitt
10-07-2002, 11:32 PM
SVT or SLP? Isnt SVT Ford?

mshu7
10-08-2002, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by WOLF
...SVT type proformance division for Pontaic...

Originally posted by Kitt
SVT or SLP? Isnt SVT Ford?


He said SVT type division. And yes, SVT is Ford. I am not sure if they have named this new performance division yet.

Kitt
10-08-2002, 08:07 AM
well it was late too lol. i cant believe i can type soo well while trying to stay awake and drink. :thumbs:

mshu7
10-08-2002, 01:08 PM
Might want to cut back on the booze there Kitt :cheers: !

:D

WOLF
10-08-2002, 08:11 PM
Since GM dropped the F-bodies SLP DOES deal with Ford now. That just sucks now doesn't it. Well they have to make money some way and GM isn't helping the company any so they went to Ford for some help.

If you go to their website you'll know what I'm talking about.

Plus SLP didn't with aftermarket parts to much anyway, a bodykit here, 10 extra hp there. Nothing big like turbo's or superchargers and such. I think thats where GM is heading with the "new" performance divisions for each brand, to include anything that adds speed and I'm all for that. Plus that means if the performance area wants, they can fool around with any car they choose like SVT does. SVT even turned the poor Contour into a sweet car that had my attention front and center. The 0-60 times on that car were only 6.5-6.6 seconds and that dam* good in anybodies book.

Kitt
10-08-2002, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by mshu7
Might want to cut back on the booze there Kitt :cheers: !

:D

Nothing like my best friend, Mr. Gentleman Jack Dan :thumbs: :cheers:

Molson
10-08-2002, 08:27 PM
New crate engine.. Mmmm.. Race car.. Mmm. 2003 season.. Zoom.

waffler
10-10-2002, 03:43 PM
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GM’s new family of all-aluminum, 24-valve DOHC V-6s, “intended to satisfy powertrain requirements for premium and high-performance vehicles across the world’s automotive markets,” will range in size from 2.8 to 3.8 liters. They will feature roller-finger followers, electronic throttle control (ETC), forged steel crankshafts, special piston-cooling oil jets, coolant loss protection software, GM’s Oil Life Monitoring System, 32-bit microprocessor, coil-on-plug ignition and iridium spark plugs. First to debut will be a 255-hp 3.6-liter version incorporating variable intake and exhaust valve timing (cam phasing) to optimize starting, idle, low-rpm torque and high-rpm power as well as emissions and economy.

The upgraded OHV V-6 family will expand to include displacements from 2.5 to 3.9 liters. First to debut will be a 240-hp 3.5-liter version for the ‘04 Chevy Malibu. Thanks to an advanced powertrain control module (PCM), improved fuel injection, exhaust manifold, accessory drive, cooling and sealing, plus a new-design catalytic converter, it will be smoother, quieter, more powerful and more fuel efficient than earlier generation OHV V-6s.

Some media members (“high-feature” types themselves) questioned why GM would continue to invest in “old-tech” OHV engines when competitors have long since gone to high-feature powerplants across the board. Stephens countered that they should be thinking “good” vs. “bad,” not “old-” vs. “new-tech.”

“Since the vast majority of customers don’t care about features,” he asserted, “we can do larger displacements with better performance and fuel economy at lower cost than our competitors.” An engine’s level of technology is defined by much more than its valvetrain, and “efficiency levels of new-tech pushrod engines come very close to those of OHC. Another advantage is packaging, and you can get modern OHVs to rev like OHC engines. No one would call today’s Corvette engine ‘low-revving.’”

Another major advantage of OHV design is the ability to incorporate fuel-saving cylinder deactivation, which GM calls Displacement on Demand. Already slated to debut on some GM V-8s in 2004, DOD (which deactivates half of the cylinders by closing both intake and exhaust valves under light load conditions) will expand to the updated OHV V-6 family in 2005. By 2008, DOD will be featured on all GM OHV V-6s and V-8s in more than two million vehicles.
It’s a very simple, elegant solution on two-valve-per-cylinder, OHV engines,” Stephens explained. “With four-valve engines, you have to close all four valves in sequence, and with hardware in the head rather than in the valley of the block.” With DOD planned for high-volume family cars, light trucks and SUVs, he added, “we’re making our most popular vehicles sold in North America even more fuel efficient, and without any sacrifice in performance.” Economy improvements should range from 8-20 percent, depending on driving conditions.