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NoOneYouKnow
02-11-2004, 10:54 AM
ANd so does my brake pedal. My car is just 200 miles shy of 15,000. Anyone know anything? Will the dealer fix this?

Germ
02-11-2004, 10:56 AM
sounds like your rotors could be warped, imo

Kdawg207
02-11-2004, 10:57 AM
welcome to the world of GM parts...rotors...def.

NoOneYouKnow
02-11-2004, 11:00 AM
Would this be covered under warranty?

PACE
02-11-2004, 11:04 AM
Yes it would.....if you car sat in the dealer lot over the winter months the rotors probably warped.

NoOneYouKnow
02-11-2004, 11:22 AM
it has almost 15000 miles on it tho.....

iceman
02-11-2004, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by NoOneYouKnow
it has almost 15000 miles on it tho.....

That doesn't mean much..

Our rotors (and GM brakes in general) are notoriously bad. Search around here and you'll see 100000 stories of such

PACE
02-11-2004, 11:25 AM
yeah...sometimes it doesn't show right away.....its so slight you don't notice for a while til it gets worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and worse and wrose and worse and worse and worse and

NoOneYouKnow
02-11-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by iceman
That doesn't mean much..

Our rotors (and GM brakes in general) are notoriously bad. Search around here and you'll see 100000 stories of such

but will it be covered under warranty cosidering the fact it has 15,000 miles on it? My car will be one year old February 28th.

PACE
02-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Your warrenty last 3 years or 36,000 miles. Which ever comes first. :duh:

ArcticGT
02-11-2004, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Pace
Your warrenty last 3 years or 36,000 miles. Which ever comes first

Thank you captain obvious :thumbs:

Originally posted by NoOneYouKnow
but will it be covered under warranty cosidering the fact it has 15,000 miles on it? My car will be one year old February 28th.

There was something posted on the boards of someone going to thier dealer for the problem and the dealer said thier rotor policy is 18 monthes or 18,000 miles. Whether this is true or not, I don't know. You can contact the "service manager" of the dealership you bought the car from and see what they say. Every dealership handles things differently. Good luck.

PACE
02-11-2004, 11:41 AM
Oops I must have not understood his question.......Anyways If the dealership tells you that you should expect warped rotors every 15k miles tell him to go jump in a lake.

acdc1a
02-11-2004, 01:07 PM
*iagree*

But brakes or other wearable parts aren't covered by the original factory warranty. You do have an out. It covers defects in workmanship. Obviously there is a flaw here and they shoold fix it.

NoOneYouKnow
02-11-2004, 02:13 PM
true....i mean is isn't something that i have been noticing....its something that JUST happened.....

PACE
02-11-2004, 02:16 PM
With out seeing it taken apart or put on a laith there is really nothing anyone on-line can say except that it is usually the rotors at fault on these cars...

Dan00GPGT
02-11-2004, 02:39 PM
From what I understand, GM will cover rotors up to 12,000 miles. They are considered a wear and tear part and do not fall under the 36,000 mile guarantee. Even if they did, GM would most likely turn them meaning they shave down the metal to make it straight again. What does this do? It solves the shaking problem for a while but it comes back much quicker due to the metal rotors being even more thin than before. Good luck, I don't see GM fixing it for free.

AznGA
02-11-2004, 03:09 PM
Mine are warped too and my dealer told me brakes are only covered up to 18000 miles. It probably isn't covered under warranty because they are wear and tear parts just like wiper blades.

Kdawg207
02-11-2004, 03:11 PM
thats what the man told me

tuff sh1t is what i call it

PACE
02-11-2004, 03:25 PM
If you raise hell you can get them to cover it......I would say to them, "So you are telling me to expect to have to have my rotors turned or replaced due to warping every 15,000 miles?" If they say YES then tell them you want that in writing. (I'm sure GM would love to hear dealerships telling people that!)....If they say NO then they just proved that it is a workmanship problem and should be fixed for free :)

AznGA
02-11-2004, 03:28 PM
hmmm...I will try it then. I have about 700 miles left in my warranty. I am trying to get everything I can find fixed before it ends......

1/2dolla
02-11-2004, 10:03 PM
mine warped 2 yrs in with 16,000mi and was covered. My GM tech tried to resurface them, then just said screw it and put new ones on. things were smooth right after. When they warp again and I am out of warranty I will just buy new ones, they are not too expensive.

AznGA
02-11-2004, 11:00 PM
GM uses POS rotors. Pretty much anything else should be better.

cousinD
02-12-2004, 08:37 AM
How much does it generally cost to fix the warped rotor or get a new rotor and pad all together?? Thanks in advance.

acdc1a
02-12-2004, 08:42 AM
If you do it yourself, good aftermarket rotors are around $30 each and good pads are around $25. All said and done about $85. Now if you go to a sevice center lookout! They try to charge $100 each for $30 rotors and $50 for some $25 pads!! Then they charge you labor on top of it!

On a side note...would someone in this forum who's in the business answer to why service centers mark the parts up so much? Why do we pay for labor if the parts are going to be marked up 100%?

Kdawg207
02-12-2004, 08:43 AM
only reason i have ever been able to produce:

because they got us by the short and curlies....

AznGA
02-12-2004, 09:58 AM
What's the cheapest slotted/cross drilled rotors?

Vince
02-12-2004, 03:12 PM
i had the same problem around the same milage (15000), they resurfaced mine, no charge, and at 70000 miles, still no problems.

1/2dolla
02-12-2004, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by acdc1a

On a side note...would someone in this forum who's in the business answer to why service centers mark the parts up so much? Why do we pay for labor if the parts are going to be marked up 100%?

Your paying retail. Business' can charge what they want, its your choice to pay or look elsewhere. Its what America and free markets are all about.

For example, on my non GM car, I went for a timing belt estimate. One dealer wanted $350, another $125. In the retail sector any price, no matter how crazy it sounds, can be charged. Some numb nutz will eventually pay it.

acdc1a
02-13-2004, 08:53 AM
That free market economy truly isn't the case in this country. It's illegal to fix prices. When you call 20 shops and all of them are outrageous on parts and WON'T install your parts, that's price fixing.

1/2dolla
02-13-2004, 11:46 AM
I dont understand your reply. Are you implying the car industry is involved with price fixing? Yes its illegal and you would need to prove that in a court of law. But if one dealer is charging $350 and another $125 how is that price fixing? Thats called a competitive price. Price fixing would be if all repair shops charge $350 for replacing a $30 belt. Its not hard to tell the difference.

If the belt is around $30 and a shop charges $75 to $90 per hour on labor then its not out of line to pay $125. If you want to pay the $350 then so be it. It's simple economics

Saying that the USA is not a free marketplace is ludicrous. Now with the internet if you cant find the same price for lower anywhere your just not looking hard enough.


lastly, about the part on the shops wont install the parts for you, what do you mean by this. If you goto a repair shop the job you sign for, (ie.belt replacement) includes parts and labor. If you mean you bought a part from Checker Auto Parts and they wont install it well, what do you want?

Kdawg207
02-13-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by acdc1a
that's price fixing.


i would say that ye...that's what he's sayin

acdc1a
02-13-2004, 12:10 PM
Sorry. Plain economics tells you any government that puts controls on monopolies and has the extesive consumer protection laws isn't a free market economy. No matter how much you believe that sh*t that's fed to you about the US being a free market economy. A true free market economy doesn't work. Go talk to the folks in Mexico.

That doesn't take away from the fact that the service centers and dealers *are* involved in price fixing. If they won't put in your parts that you paid fair market value for and require you to purchase their overprice crap it IS price fixing!!!! Tell me a legit reason why they won't put on your parts. If you tell me it's for warranty purposes You'll drive me further over the edge. If I buy my own parts I don't expect the guy who puts it on to warranty it!

1/2dolla
02-13-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Kdawg207
i would say that ye...that's what he's sayin


Cool lets sue.

1/2dolla
02-13-2004, 12:27 PM
Man did we hijak this thread or what? The original poster just wanted to know if his dealer would repair his rotors. hehe

acdc1a
02-13-2004, 12:38 PM
Well, just seems as good as any place to vent about getting bent over at the service centers!

NoOneYouKnow
02-15-2004, 03:25 PM
sup guyz?

well, i took the car to the dealer.....they inspected em'.....they said my rotors were out of round (warped) so they "machined" them and now the brakes are just like new from the day i drove the car off the lot.

This was also covered under warranty. :):)

acdc1a
02-16-2004, 04:30 PM
Machining them, they're bound to warp again. However, I'm glad they took care of you without charging. Make sure you keep the warranty repair receipt. If they warp again you'll have a good case!!