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MIAaron
03-04-2004, 09:12 AM
I've known about this for a while, but curiousity finally got the best of me.

When I goto the dealership the vehicle description that comes up on the computer and on the paper work says my car is a SE sedan...yet it's a GT coupe.

Anyone else have this happen?:confused:

grandamgt6969
03-04-2004, 09:22 AM
Where did you buy the car from?

MIAaron
03-04-2004, 09:34 AM
Somerset Pontiac in Troy, MI. I bought it new.

acdc1a
03-04-2004, 09:44 AM
That's odd. I work in insurance. Can you post the VIN...I wanna see what it comes up in the old insurance database.

Nikki
03-04-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by MIAaron
Somerset Pontiac in Troy, MI. I bought it new.

That is odd...and Somerset is a good dealership too!!

PACE
03-04-2004, 10:09 AM
I can run your VIN in my GM Visibility tool here at work and tell you exactly what it comes up as. Post or PM me your VIN.

preed4962
03-04-2004, 10:24 AM
Happens all the time, its a typical occurence. My wifes 1997 Sunfire SE shows up as a two door GT coupe when we bring it to the dealer.

seeya
03-04-2004, 10:44 AM
it doesn't happen all the time. there are numerous mix ups from data entry per vin plate to common error on the production line.

gm vis = vehicle inquery system... not visibility.


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PACE
03-04-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by seeya
it doesn't happen all the time. there are numerous mix ups from data entry per vin plate to common error on the production line.

gm vis = vehicle inquery system... not visibility.


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*shrug* :) I have a cellular visibility tool as well....sometimes I get the names confused :o

MIAaron
03-04-2004, 11:25 AM
I didn't think it was a big deal, I was just curious how often it happened. Maybe I'll get the VIN tonight just to see. At least one other person has had it happen.

And I will say Somerset Pontiac was great. Somehow it was cheaper there than Shelton in Rochester. And they got me into a car quick, even though it wasn't the one I wanted. There were no red GTP's in the area then. :(

preed4962
03-04-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by seeya
it doesn't happen all the time. there are numerous mix ups from data entry per vin plate to common error on the production line.

gm vis = vehicle inquery system... not visibility.


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It sure does happen all the time, I could show you the truck loads of repair orders I view every year that the vehicle description does not match the VIN. Another common mixup I see all the time are 2000+ 'Cadillac Deville DTS's' that Show up on RO's as 'Deville Concours' which is what the DTS was called 99 and previous years. And 1999+ GMT800's (Silverado/Sierra's) that come up on RO's as GMT400's. Its nothing to get worried about. But it does happen quite a bit.

SC/TGrandAm
03-04-2004, 01:10 PM
haha then if your vin says you have an SE then does your insurance think you have an SE then and paying SE insurance prices? that could be a good thing i guess. Well until you get into a wreck or something.

MIAaron
03-04-2004, 02:34 PM
According to my ins. agent, SE, GT didn't matter. As long as it wasn't considered a sports car, it was going to be the same. Now the insurance on my 350z is a LOT more.

AaronGAGT
03-04-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by MIAaron
According to my ins. agent, SE, GT didn't matter.

Hmm... odd.

acdc1a
03-04-2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by MIAaron
According to my ins. agent, SE, GT didn't matter. As long as it wasn't considered a sports car, it was going to be the same. Now the insurance on my 350z is a LOT more.

Your agent is insane. It's all based on rate symbols. The GT is rated higher than the SE and the Coupe is rated higher than the sedan. Insurance is what I've been doing the last 5 years. All insurance companies are the same in this respect.

If the factory used an SE VIN for your car you'll pay the SE rates. If they just miscoded it in THIER system and used the correct vin coding for identification purposes, you'll be paying GT rates.

preed4962
03-04-2004, 08:11 PM
Actually I ran into the same problem with my car when I got it. The insurance papers kept coming back as a GT Coupe but I have a GT sedan. I called the agent (30+ years experience) and he told me it made no difference. I didnt believe him totally, so I had them correct the form, and sure enough, the price remained exactly the same when I got the corrected paperwork.

stanjk3
03-04-2004, 08:23 PM
GMAC still has the wrong VIN for my car, though it's only a 1 letter difference.
I've told them a few times and they still haven't fixed it. My insurance company got it right the first time.

Insurance question for you guys: how much difference is it between a GA GT and a comparable Alero??

MIAaron
03-05-2004, 07:00 AM
I called my insurance agent and he said the difference for me between GT and SE was about $15. I guess he told me that they were ABOUT the same, not exactly. My ins. paperwork says GT, so it's not even an issue. Ins. on the grand am is cheap anyways...under $1100/year for full coverage through AAA.

PACE
03-05-2004, 07:18 AM
^ Must have a spotless driving record!

MIAaron
03-05-2004, 08:27 AM
For the past 5 years, yes. I was in high risk @ 19 years old. I used to pay $1500/year for liability on a 10 year old cavalier. :( That about what I pay on the Z with seasonal insurance.

acdc1a
03-05-2004, 11:59 AM
don't move to FL! I'm at $869.90 on my SE2 for 6 months...and I'm an agent!!!

03 Cav Fire
03-05-2004, 12:04 PM
I know a guy whose VIN literally cant be decoded... it's almost like his car was made to go out of the country and never did... he cant even figure out where it was made...

AaronGAGT
03-06-2004, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by MIAaron
Ins. on the grand am is cheap anyways...under $1100/year for full coverage through AAA.

Eh... I pay that much every 6 months... :( teh suck

fear187
03-06-2004, 10:18 AM
eh, insurance on a GA GT aint cheap.... I have a spotless record and I pay out the A$$... I'm 19... full coverage for me is 3000 a year....:( and I'm on my parents insurance.... so it sucks to be me lol. Tried complaining.. and they say it's because I'm not 21.. and that when I turn 21 it'll drop down alot.

Confuzed420
03-06-2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by MIAaron
According to my ins. agent, SE, GT didn't matter. As long as it wasn't considered a sports car, it was going to be the same. Now the insurance on my 350z is a LOT more.

My State Farm agent told me that my GT costs the same as an SE. I beleive it depends on what state you live in, because in NH you aren't required to have ins. anyway, unless you have a lein on your title, or are a bad driver and have an SR-22 requirement.

MIAaron
03-06-2004, 11:03 AM
You guys really need to check out your insurer's discounts. I get discounts for being a part of a credit union, insuring multiple cars, and all sorts of other things...probably about 8 total.

If you have health insurance make sure that your auto insurance knows that, it's a big rate hike. There is all sorts of stuff, get a good agent. Make sure to ask about all these extra's when shopping for insurance.

Call your insurer and ask them for a list of all their discounts, then make sure you get as many as possible.

Phantom Phoenix
03-06-2004, 03:00 PM
i pay 466 a month. beat that

MIAaron
03-06-2004, 03:04 PM
Damn....at that much I would start to debate if driving is worth it.

Phantom Phoenix
03-06-2004, 03:08 PM
i am

Phantom Phoenix
03-06-2004, 03:09 PM
Good thing i make pretty good money. But I'm seriously considering parking it and getting a girlfriend to drive me around, hehe. I'm in the process of looking for a new insurance company right now.

stanjk3
03-07-2004, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Confuzed420
My State Farm agent told me that my GT costs the same as an SE. I beleive it depends on what state you live in, because in NH you aren't required to have ins. anyway, unless you have a lein on your title, or are a bad driver and have an SR-22 requirement.

I have USAA, if I bought a GT1 instead of a GT it would have added $15-20 more a month. :wtf
I pay $110 a month and I turn 30 in July. That's more than both my parents pay. :nono:

XMBlackGT1
03-07-2004, 04:42 PM
My insurance is through State Farm, with a speeding ticket or two on my record. When I got rid of my 2000 SE1 in 2001, and upgraded to the 2001 GT1, my insurance went DOWN $120 every six months. I am not sure why it did, but it did. As it sits now, I pay LESS insurance on my 03 GT1 than I do on my 03 GT. Not quite sure why that is either, but I'm not complaining. Total per year, I pay about 2,000 in Insurance for both cars. I'm pretty happy with that.

blckgagt
03-08-2004, 10:28 AM
U guys pays a lot. I only pay 275 dollars every 6 months. Thats under my dad's insurrance though. Lucky me. Of course they gave me like 120 off every 6 months cus im in the marines, and i took driver's ed classes. And i told them i wear a seat belt, that helped a little. I own a 99 GA GT sedan

acdc1a
03-08-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by XMBlackGT1
My insurance is through State Farm, with a speeding ticket or two on my record. When I got rid of my 2000 SE1 in 2001, and upgraded to the 2001 GT1, my insurance went DOWN $120 every six months. I am not sure why it did, but it did. As it sits now, I pay LESS insurance on my 03 GT1 than I do on my 03 GT. Not quite sure why that is either, but I'm not complaining. Total per year, I pay about 2,000 in Insurance for both cars. I'm pretty happy with that.

Your tickets were dropping off the rate. It's not got anything to do with the car.

Confuzed420
03-16-2004, 05:16 PM
I pay $117 a month thru State Farm for full cov. and $100 comp. deductible, and my wife is covered on it to. Just got a speeding ticket though, so my rate will prob increase.