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Midwest Kid
03-10-2004, 06:19 AM
Recalls Summary
Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2001
Recall Number: 03V327000
Summary:
CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES HAVE HAZARD WARNING SWITCHES THAT MAY EXPERIENCE SOLDER JOINT CRACKING CAUSED BY RAPID TEMPERATURE TRANSITIONS AND THE SOLDERING PROCESS. IF SOLDER JOINT CRACKING OCCURS AND RESULTS IN AN OPEN CIRCUIT, THE TURN SIGNALS/HAZARD LAMPS BECOME INTERMITTENT OR INOPERATIVE.
Consequence:
WHEN THE TURN SIGNALS ARE INOPERATIVE, THE DRIVER CANNOT USE THEM TO SIGNAL INTENT TO TURN THAT COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE HAZARD WARNING SWITCH. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 16, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438, PONTIAC AT 1-800-620-7668, OR OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-630-6537.
Notes:
GM RECALL NO. 03043. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION’S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).

CruzinGT33
03-10-2004, 12:49 PM
yeah, now I don't have to beat my dash up everytime I smack it.

mr_eh
03-10-2004, 01:06 PM
on hold with them to see if they will fix...

they asked if the vehicle was registered to me and my address is correct, then told me to wait for a notice *sigh*...

i'd really enjoy having blinkers that worked

Midwest Kid
03-10-2004, 01:22 PM
they cant do that. You dont need a notice. They must be busy at the shop so they're trying to prevent you from adding to it as long as possible. Once a Recall is issued, a dealer must honor it. There is no "wait for your notice" BS. Call another dealer. This is a safety recall. Ide make a complaint or ask to talk to the manager. If your turn signals worked ide say hold off, but since they dont, i would definately make a complaint.

Midwest Kid
03-10-2004, 01:39 PM
Hey Bro, i just called GM and the dealer has to repair the car with or without the notice. I would call a different dealer just so you dont have to deal with a prick dealership.

mr_eh
03-10-2004, 01:46 PM
this is the same dealer that wanted 300$ to fix it a fe wmonths back, there are no other pontiac dealers around here... ug...

was the recall issued for 00 grand ams yet? maybe thats his loophole?

Midwest Kid
03-11-2004, 08:39 AM
Heres the ones for yours. Loopholes my azz, its calles laziness.

Recalls Summary

Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2000
Recall Number: 00V140000
Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: THESE VEHICLES DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE OCCUPANT PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS OF FMVSS NO. 201, "OCCUPANT PROTECTION IN INTERIOR IMPACT." THE CONSOLE COVER ON THESE VEHICLES DOES NOT STAY CLOSED WHEN A SPECIFIED VERTICAL LOAD IS APPLIED.
Consequence:
IN THE EVENT OF A CRASH, THE CONSOLE COVER COULD OPEN AND THE COVER OR ITEMS STORED UNDER IT COULD INJURE AN OCCUPANT.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE CONSOLE LATCH MECHANISM.
Notes:
OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 9, 2000. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-442-6537 OR PONTIAC AT 1-800-762-2737. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).



Recalls Summary

Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2000
Recall Number: 03V327000
Summary:
CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES HAVE HAZARD WARNING SWITCHES THAT MAY EXPERIENCE SOLDER JOINT CRACKING CAUSED BY RAPID TEMPERATURE TRANSITIONS AND THE SOLDERING PROCESS. IF SOLDER JOINT CRACKING OCCURS AND RESULTS IN AN OPEN CIRCUIT, THE TURN SIGNALS/HAZARD LAMPS BECOME INTERMITTENT OR INOPERATIVE.
Consequence:
WHEN THE TURN SIGNALS ARE INOPERATIVE, THE DRIVER CANNOT USE THEM TO SIGNAL INTENT TO TURN THAT COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE HAZARD WARNING SWITCH. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 16, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438, PONTIAC AT 1-800-620-7668, OR OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-630-6537.
Notes:
GM RECALL NO. 03043. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION’S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).



Recalls Summary

Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2000
Recall Number: 00V116000
Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE BOLT THAT ATTACHES THE REAR SUSPENSION TRAILING ARM TO THE LEFT REAR KNUCKLE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN TIGHTENED TO SPECIFICATIONS DURING ASSEMBLY.
Consequence:
THE BOLT COULD BACK COMPLETELY OUT OF THE JOINT AFFECTING VEHICLE CONTROL.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL TIGHTEN THIS BOLT.
Notes:
OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN MAY 3, 2000. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT PONTIAC AT 1-800-762-2737. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).

Grand AM Sam II
03-17-2004, 08:17 AM
i got this notice too....print it and go jam it down someones throat if they dont do what they're supposed to...have the manager call gm right infront of you and ask if you have to wait for a notice...sounds like good ol' normal BULLSH!T from our dealerships as usual... dealerships think they;re god or something, and will act snobby if you let them...when they pull that you gotta start yelling...doesnt happen TOO often to me anymore, but now that my warranty is done im sure they'll be finding all kinds of god awful problems with my car...

they're crooks, but what can you do...i say take it in and make then fix it if its causing you problems...if they still bitch, let me know and i'll scan my letter and email it to you...

Midwest Kid
03-17-2004, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Grand AM Sam II
i got this notice too....print it and go jam it down someones throat if they dont do what they're supposed to...have the manager call gm right infront of you and ask if you have to wait for a notice...sounds like good ol' normal BULLSH!T from our dealerships as usual... dealerships think they;re god or something, and will act snobby if you let them...when they pull that you gotta start yelling...doesnt happen TOO often to me anymore, but now that my warranty is done im sure they'll be finding all kinds of god awful problems with my car...

they're crooks, but what can you do...i say take it in and make then fix it if its causing you problems...if they still bitch, let me know and i'll scan my letter and email it to you...

:thumbs:

Rogue9
03-17-2004, 11:27 AM
just got mine today..... funny cause I've already had them replace the hazard switch twice lol....
they finally figured it out...

ArcticGT
03-18-2004, 08:26 PM
IMPORTANT: Its 2000 and 2001 Model Years only!!!

mr_eh
03-18-2004, 08:30 PM
i got my ish today, gonna call them tomorrow

Kristi
03-19-2004, 05:50 AM
I got mine yesterday,,

eren00gt
03-20-2004, 09:29 AM
Just got my notice on Friday. I saw the outisde of the envelope and was hoping it was lower intake gasket related but it wasn't oh well. I am taking mine in next week to get the hazard thing taken care of.

NorKoastal
03-24-2004, 11:08 AM
^^^ Me too..

Amber99ga
03-25-2004, 08:25 PM
tony got his today :)

'01GTgirl
03-26-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by ArcticGT
IMPORTANT: Its 2000 and 2001 Model Years only!!!

it's only on certain VIN's too...i didn't get one, but i had to take the car to the dealer today for leaks and i asked (figured i could get it fixed while the car was there)...my car wasn't affected by it.

CruzinGT33
03-26-2004, 12:15 PM
I better get one, my switch is sooo ****ed up. its even been worse the last few days.

ND4SPDIII
03-26-2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Midwest Kid
Recalls Summary
Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2001
Recall Number: 03V327000
Summary:
CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES HAVE HAZARD WARNING SWITCHES THAT MAY EXPERIENCE SOLDER JOINT CRACKING CAUSED BY RAPID TEMPERATURE TRANSITIONS AND THE SOLDERING PROCESS. IF SOLDER JOINT CRACKING OCCURS AND RESULTS IN AN OPEN CIRCUIT, THE TURN SIGNALS/HAZARD LAMPS BECOME INTERMITTENT OR INOPERATIVE.
Consequence:
WHEN THE TURN SIGNALS ARE INOPERATIVE, THE DRIVER CANNOT USE THEM TO SIGNAL INTENT TO TURN THAT COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE HAZARD WARNING SWITCH. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 16, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438, PONTIAC AT 1-800-620-7668, OR OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-630-6537.
Notes:
GM RECALL NO. 03043. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION’S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).

I just got that letter in the mail!

Brother's1999
03-26-2004, 02:54 PM
2000-2001 Grand Ams

Solder joints in the hazard warning flasher switch may crack. If happens, the audible flasher indicator, visual flasher indicator, turn signals, and hazard flasher may work intermittently or not at all. Dealers will replace the switch. Should take about 30 minutes plus check-in time.

Certain Grand Ams/ Dealer to confirm eligibility.

2000 YC535849 (2/2/00) to YC568892
2000 YM792549 (2/3/00) to YM886948

2001 1C100008 to 1C250906
2001 1M500001 to 1M648029

The recall letter will include any instructions for reimbursement for previous repairs.


For those who are not involved in the recall, the switches are only around $30 and take a half hour or less to install. Get your cars fixed, keep the recipts, and if you feel the need complete a report at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov

mr_eh
03-26-2004, 02:56 PM
they wanted to keep my car for the weekend wtf!?%@@@@@@^

gotta bring it back on wednesday...

ND4SPDIII
03-26-2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by mr_eh
they wanted to keep my car for the weekend wtf!?%@@@@@@^

gotta bring it back on wednesday...

I know how u feel, dealers always do that..

Coop
06-05-2004, 09:22 AM
Haven't seen anything yet and ours falls into those VIN's. I wonder if the local chevy dealer will do it, the local Pontiac dealer couldn't fix the brakes on our last car after we had it there 3 times I ended up fixing it myself. (Of course we'd already spent $1400 for parts we didn't need)

DanIAm
06-10-2004, 08:22 PM
For those of you waiting to get your notice (if the dealer won't fix w/o it)...I figured out how to get mine working. I received my notice, and took the dealer a month before they'd fix it, because I had to "set an appointment" (they only took "paying" customers for walkin work) Tragic....Anyway, when mine failed to work, I figured out that you can jiggle the [I]hazard light switch[I] above the stereo, and they'd start working again. Just wanted to add my two cents. Hopefully it's helpful.

Hot_Stud18
06-11-2004, 01:24 PM
they wanted to keep my car for the weekend wtf!?%@@@@@@^

gotta bring it back on wednesday...



I wonder why they would wanna keep it for the weekend? Mine only took 25 min. to fix but now I have to deal with my noisey RSA's, GM only replaced 2:(

RwkAngel
06-12-2004, 08:50 AM
I have the same problem with my car except the turn signal clicker sound is acting up. I actually went to the dealership and got the recall done. It didn't fix my problem!! It happens every time I use my turn signal. It's pyscho. The turn signal lights and dash lights are fine except for the ****ing sound. It's not in the regular pattern. It just goes *click, click, click, click, click, click, etc.* and stops about 3 minutes later. I went to a shop and asked how much to get it fix-the box and it would be $350. Would it just be simpler to just cut out the box and eliminate the sound completely?????

n43210
06-12-2004, 06:44 PM
This sucks! mine just started acting up within the last week. I feel like an ass when i have to turn and my signal doesnt work. I always hated it when people turn without signaling. now im one of them.

AaronGAGT
06-12-2004, 06:50 PM
This sucks! mine just started acting up within the last week. I feel like an ass when i have to turn and my signal doesnt work. I always hated it when people turn without signaling. now im one of them.


thats weird. the ones that usually mess up still have active turn signals... just the noise goes on randomly... unless nobody mentions that.

MJSilver00
06-18-2004, 07:39 AM
I just did this myself, but the dealer wanted to charge $60 for the part. I told them I knew the list price was $27.83 and he said no thats my cost but ill sell it to you at that price. (whatever). So now its time to call GM and b!tch that even though my vin isnt included I had the exact problem, and they should send me a check for the cost of the part.

As far as the jiggling the switch solution...it only works for a while and they just keep getting worse. Might as well just replace it.

ShortysTRM
06-18-2004, 08:25 AM
with ours, if you just turn the hazards on for s plit second (or longer if you want to ?) and then back off again, your signals work. But, it's an Alero, so you never know.

MJSilver00
06-18-2004, 09:35 AM
its the same thing...thats what i was doing with mine, but after a while the connection in the switch gets so bad that wont work anymore really.

CruzinGT33
06-18-2004, 10:59 AM
Yeah, My Signals are all ****ed up, and of course My vin isn't covered in the recall. Thats bullsh*t.

MarcRiedel
06-18-2004, 12:31 PM
If I bought this at a dealership used, do I still get to have it replaced, or will i have had to buy it new?

tammikm
06-18-2004, 12:37 PM
will I get a notice? I checked the VIN and mine is affected. but I bought it used. will I still get a notice? how do i look into it?

MJSilver00
06-18-2004, 01:09 PM
if your vin is affected, just go into the dealership and they will do the work. you dont need a notice and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. they will check that your vin is within the range of vin numbers listed on the recall, and as long as it is they will replace it at no charge.

n43210
06-21-2004, 01:38 PM
Just found out my vin # isnt affected. Ne1 know where i can get the part to replace this? Thanks.

MJSilver00
06-21-2004, 01:50 PM
go to the dealer but dont pay list price...$27.83 is what I paid, they tried to charge me $60. Otherwise get it on gmpartsdirect.com for about $25 with shipping.

jr2000gt
07-26-2004, 11:17 AM
Another important GM fact about this recall notice is that dealerships get a printout on your VIN, meaning that if your VIN is not listed for this particular 2000 & 2001 recalled part, you do not get the parts repaired for free. I took the hazzard switch recall notice to my local dealer and they refused to fix my 2000 GAGT eventhough I have had defective turn signals for months. I even called Pontiac and complained about the safety concern with this and they just agreed with the dealership over and over. VIN didn't come up for the recall.

I have had a dozen problems with this car I could tell you about!! LEMON!!

CruzinGT33
07-26-2004, 01:53 PM
Welcome to the club... Right now I presently have:
1. defective hazard switch
2. broken window mount (drives window doesn't go up)
3. leaking power steering fluid from driversside
3. blown speakers
4. SES light every other week
5. surprised that about it.

jr2000gt
07-27-2004, 12:30 PM
Yikes, You have a couple I didn't hear about. I bought mine off the show room floor, loaded with the extras. The extras are fine; its the main things thats are junk. Don't get me wrong, I loved the car and have been checking this site out since I bought it, but I dealt with problems since 11,000 miles and its gone down hill ever since. Here is my partial list:
Here is the series of events:
>
>11,000 Sunroof leak on fusebox.
>11,500 Trunk relay and fuses damaged.
>12,000 warped rotors
>21,000 blower fan board replaced
>25,000 Fog lamp indicator won't go off
>28,000 warped rotors
>30,000 Code comes up, transmission slip
>30,000 Transmission replaced
>30,000 Transmission cracked leaking
>30,000 Severe hesitation
>30,500 Code comes up to replace O2 sensor, no changes
>30,500 Air Filter replaced
>30,500 PCV valve replaced
>31,000 Horns stopped working
>31,000 Drivers Door won't unlock with key
>32,000 Turn signals work 2 out of 3 times(Hazard switch)
>32,500 Throttle position sensor replaced
>33,000 Fuel pressure checked and came up low
> Replaced fuel filter, no changes
>33,000 Battery replaced
>33,000 Fuel pump replaced, no changes
>32,000 ABS light goes on for 2 days
>33,000 Hestitation extreme at passing speeds
>34,000 Code comes up, Same O2 sensor as before, recommends replacement
>34,000 Called Pontiac
>34,000 Got into heated argument with dealership because of false
>recommendations and diagnosis
>35,000 Looking for another car!

RAZE
07-27-2004, 11:09 PM
FYI : I was not on the recall list, and just got mine replaced for free today. It took them only 20 minutes.

n43210
08-05-2004, 11:30 AM
Has anyone done the fix themselves?

ChadGT
08-13-2004, 07:25 AM
can someone post the exact wording of the reimbursement part of the recall letter? i somehow misplaced this part of the recall letter i got in the mail. tia.

chad

RwkAngel
08-24-2004, 06:48 AM
i had the same problem. i went to have the recall on the hazzard light switch done. my turn signal light was working fine but the clicker noise wasn't normal. it's not a nice, steady clicking noise. even after the recall was fixed, i still had the problem with the noise. so i just cut the wire to the box. now i don't have to turn up my music so loud to not heard it!

Brother's1999
08-25-2004, 10:40 AM
can someone post the exact wording of the reimbursement part of the recall letter? i somehow misplaced this part of the recall letter i got in the mail. tia.

chad


All customer requests for reimbursement for previous repairs for the recall condition will be handled by the Customer Assistance Center, not by dealers.

A General Motors Product Recall Customer Reimbursement Procedure Form is included with the customer letter.

If you have paid to have this recall condition corrected prior to receiving this notification, you may be eligible to receive reimbursement.

Requests for reimbursement may include parts, labor, fees and taxes. Reimbursement may be limited to the amount the repair would have cost if completed by an authorized General Motors dealer.

Pontiac 1-800-620-7668


If you lost the copy of the form that came with the letter, looks like you may have to call Pontiac to get a new one.

grandam01
10-19-2004, 01:25 PM
anyone know if there might be a recall on the lower intake gasket yet, if not then ohh well i was just cutious cause i saw others have had that problem too. dealerships lick lotsa B@lls sierra won't accept my extended warranty cause the warranty was through team chevy, had to pay through the nose for an "electrical short" behind the fuse box blowing out the fuel pump and then the arse munches found "metal" in the fuel lines and replaced the lines, filters, and injectors, buttheads ohh well the grand am is still a better car than my last one so i love it even more.

grandam01
10-19-2004, 01:26 PM
metal usually gets in the lines according to another mechanic but its from the gas stations and its minimal, also the filters block it from getting to the engine soo i think it was b/s.

Manoga00
11-04-2004, 12:10 PM
Yeah sorry for being rediculously late on this post, but I just saw it. I'm guessing that recall issue with the hazard's is already done and over with correct? Just wondering since I've been dealing with this same issue since Feburary.

alva269
12-04-2004, 04:37 PM
the model 2002 do same thing,i did change on warranty but after my warranty, did it again they did not want to replace it again ask me 300$ to change it!

mr03SCT
12-05-2004, 06:29 PM
the model 2002 do same thing,i did change on warranty but after my warranty, did it again they did not want to replace it again ask me 300$ to change it!

mine just started doing that today...it will be the second time the dealer will be replacing it under warranty...well at least make me glad i took the warranty.

Brother's1999
12-24-2004, 10:33 AM
Latest info from the NHTSA, looks like GM will be putting an extended warranty on the flasher part. Could also mean reinbursement for previous flasher repairs. First person to get a letter should post it here.

NHTSA Action Number : RQ04005 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A
Make : PONTIAC Model: GRAND AM
Manufacturer : GENERAL MOTORS CORP. Year : 1999
Component : EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HAZARD FLASHING WARNING LIGHTS:SWITCH
Date Investigation Opened : June 18, 2004
Date Investigation Closed : November 30, 2004
Summary:
GM CONDUCTED A RECALL (NHTSA RECALL NUMBER 03V327) ON MODEL YEAR (MY) 2000-2001 ALERO, GRAND AM AND MALIBU VEHICLES TO REPLACE DEFECTIVE HAZARD SWITCHES THAT CAUSE THE TURN SIGNALS AND HAZARD LIGHTS TO FAIL. THE RECALL COVERED VEHICLES BUILT FROM FEBRUARY 2000 THROUGH MAY 2001 (DEPENDING ON MODEL). ODI OPENED THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON 64 REPORTS ALLEGING TURN SIGNAL FAILURE ON MY 1999-2000 ALERO, GRAND AM AND MALIBU VEHICLES NOT COVERED UNDER THE RECALL AND BUILT PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 2000. IN DECEMBER 2004, GM WILL ISSUE A SPECIAL POLICY FOR MY 1999-2000 ALERO, GRAND AM AND MALIBU VEHICLES NOT COVERED UNDER RECALL 03V327. THE POLICY COVERS TURN SIGNAL/HAZARD FLASHER FAILURE FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS OR 150,000 MILES (WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST) TO PROVIDE A NO COST REPLACEMENT OF THE HAZARD SWITCH. GM WILL SEND LETTERS TO OWNERS STARTING DECEMBER 30, 2004. THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE MANUFACTURER IS SUFFICIENT TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES RAISED BY THIS INVESTIGATION. THE CLOSING OF THIS INVESTIGATION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY NHTSA THAT NO SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT EXISTS. THE AGENCY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE FUTURE ACTION IF WARRANTED BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

H-508
12-30-2004, 09:56 AM
as of today (12/30) the dealership told me they know nothing about this latest warranty - they had no problem wanting me to make an appointment though for me to pay for the replacement.

pontga00
12-30-2004, 11:15 AM
Print out the Recall notice with the Recall Campaign number and bring it to them. If they still refuse, go to another dealership.

By the way...www.alldata.com has all TSB's and recall notices for all make and model cars, just in case you are having amy other problems that might be common.

Brother's1999
12-30-2004, 04:54 PM
as of today (12/30) the dealership told me they know nothing about this latest warranty - they had no problem wanting me to make an appointment though for me to pay for the replacement.

The NHTSA filling said the GM would start sending out letters today. Perhaps that was delayed, they are on vacation. Sure the dealer will know something more in a week or so once everything is distributed.

spartan0199
01-03-2005, 09:51 AM
I think I'm one of the 64. I complained to GM and NHTSA that my turn signal had this exact concen and didn't fall under the recall...I hadn't fixed it yet because I was still arguing with them....

GTLUVA
01-03-2005, 10:07 AM
The closet gm dealer from my house is 5 miles away. I didn't order my car through them. Wanted to order a car through them kept on e-mailing them. Never replied to my e-mails had to wait two weeks to get a frickin yes or no answer. Gave up on them drove 40 miles away to the other Pontiac dealership a hour away from my house. Ordered my car through them. The people are way more friendly. Go in their with a recall in my hand no aruging involved. They understand I still got a factory warranty on my car till April 2006. Gm dealer in town went their the first time with my recall in my hand. We don't have the tools to fix it. Second time I went their talked to the bodyshop manager told me customers aren't going to start getting the recalls till March or April in the mail. Line of ****. It was so funny when I pulled out my recall notice out of purse. I told him I must be special or something because I'm the original owner lol Went back to the dealer the third time they told me they could finally fix my pedal for me. Well screw them. I had to go back and constantly fight with them. So today I'm going to be taking a little road trip to get my sticky gas pedal recall fixed. I just wish gm dealerships would be all friendly. But most of them are being controlled by a bunch of idiots. Then I wonder why everbody is leaving GM because the customer service is lacking :) Sorry had to vent.

pongagt
01-04-2005, 09:42 AM
I got the letter today offering 10 years or 150K warranty for the turn signal/hazard warning flashers on my 99 GT. Does anyone know if it will cover the clicking noise. I fixed it once but i think it might be coming back. The letter says that it is not a recall. It is just making you aware of a possible condition where the turn signals/hazard flashers become inoperative.

GTLUVA
01-04-2005, 09:54 AM
I got the letter today offering 10 years or 150K warranty for the turn signal/hazard warning flashers on my 99 GT. Does anyone know if it will cover the clicking noise. I fixed it once but i think it might be coming back. The letter says that it is not a recall. It is just making you aware of a possible condition where the turn signals/hazard flashers become inoperative.

I got that same letter in the mail yesterday from Pontiac about my 2000 Grand Am GT and I haven't had that car since April 2003 when I ordered my new one. lol

Hexx
01-04-2005, 10:56 AM
I got that same letter in the mail yesterday from Pontiac about my 2000 Grand Am GT and I haven't had that car since April 2003 when I ordered my new one. lol

I just got the recall for my 00GAGT1 yesterday also....I have had my car since last august.

Infernall
01-29-2005, 10:41 PM
I have a 2001 Grand Am SE. I have not had this recall done.

My turn signals and hazards still work, but today I started to hear the clicking sound of the signals come on and off randomly at varying speeds from ultra rapid, to once every few seconds. No signal lights are on while the signal clicking is heard. Singals still work, hazards still work. When I AM signalling, the clicking sound returns to the normal usual clicking from the signals, but begins its random speed clicking when the signal has stopped. This problem started today, with a warm interior and a freezing exterior.

Would this problem be related to the hazard switch recall? If not, what else could it be?

jdgolf
02-04-2005, 08:32 PM
:boogie: No its not the hazard warning switch,its probably the multi- function switch. I took my 2000 grand am to the dealer and they changed the hazard warning but the clicking continued. They said it was the multi-function switch.

Infernall
02-06-2005, 11:02 PM
:boogie: No its not the hazard warning switch,its probably the multi- function switch. I took my 2000 grand am to the dealer and they changed the hazard warning but the clicking continued. They said it was the multi-function switch.

Did you happen to get a quote on the multi-function switch? Where is this part located? I am very good with electronic PCB work, so I wouldn't mind opening the switch up to find the cause of this problem.

My only concern is that I am not sure how to properly get to this switch without breaking part of my dash.

If you guys can get me to this part, I can figure out a way to fix it.

*PS*
While this issue ISN'T the recall part, I think it would be wise to discuss this new multi switch as well, since it was apprently the part that drove me to the dealership for the recall. I think this part deserves some discussion.

kong
04-12-2005, 07:28 PM
i wish gm would do a recall for 99's. i had to change mine twice already.

pongagt
04-12-2005, 07:39 PM
Twice. I have a 99 with around 75K and i did the multi-function switch repair found on this website and i never had a click again. Beside, i got the recall notice for my 99 too.

kong
04-12-2005, 07:54 PM
so theres a recall for 99's? what's the multi-function switch and how much and where?

pongagt
04-12-2005, 08:05 PM
I don't remember what i did with my letter, but i posted what it said somewhere in here. It was only a recall if you had a turn signal problem i believe and did not mean that all had to be replaced. Call GM and ask them about it. You may be due a refund.

99GAGTX
08-22-2005, 01:21 PM
Did you happen to get a quote on the multi-function switch? Where is this part located? I am very good with electronic PCB work, so I wouldn't mind opening the switch up to find the cause of this problem.

My only concern is that I am not sure how to properly get to this switch without breaking part of my dash.

If you guys can get me to this part, I can figure out a way to fix it.

*PS*
While this issue ISN'T the recall part, I think it would be wise to discuss this new multi switch as well, since it was apprently the part that drove me to the dealership for the recall. I think this part deserves some discussion.

I know this reply is a few months late, but I just saw this thread for the first time today.

I had the same problem with the turn signals not working on my 99GA. Didn't really matter since nobody in my city uses their turn signals anyway. lol The multi-function switch/arm is the turn signal lever on your steering column. The problem however was in the flasher itself. The flasher is in the dash directly behind the hazard lights button, above the heat/AC controls.

I didn't receive a recall for the turn signal, but did receive a notice that my flasher is warranted longer than the rest of the car now. The one recall I did get, was for the lid on the center console. Apparantly, it may open in a collision and someone could get injured by a flying cd jewelcase.

A couple pages back, someone mentioned the lower gasket leaking. I ran into the problem with my gaskets leaking. I found this out when I found coolant in my oil pan, and engine oil in my radiator. The Pontiac dealer fixed this for me under warranty. I found out through a relative who works at GM, that the 99 and 2000 model 3400 engines have a problem with gaskets leaking. This is due to the type of bolts they used on the 3400 engine in those two model years. This problem was remedied in 2001 by using different bolts.

dank_the_tank
11-16-2005, 11:11 AM
Thank god i saw this sh*t!! I've been ****ed off at my turn signals since i bought it used last year! I'll make sure i take it in and get the sh*t fixed!

Thanks guys

jrjiggy
03-24-2006, 08:40 AM
hello All, a quick question in regards to singal noise. The normal ticking noise that you would hear when u are signalling, im experiencing that same ticking noise when im not signaling, does anyone have any soluitons?

Lab Rat
03-24-2006, 09:06 AM
Did you read this thread?

badboy2451
03-24-2006, 10:14 AM
sounds like ur contacts are dirty...

just follow the directions in this thread
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50126&highlight=random+clicking

Phuxed
04-06-2006, 07:06 PM
I'm new to these forums so sorry about posting this so late. I saw the information for the hazzard switch recall and it matches perfectly to the problem I've been having. Naturally, I'd just take it in to have it fixed, but I have a 99 Grand Am SE and noticed that the recalls were only for 00/01. I even googled it and the recall did not show up for the 99. Just wondering if anyone had advice on how to still get it done for free or if it could be done by myself. Thanks ^_^

cheap80z28
05-10-2006, 11:49 AM
I just recieved one for the hazard/signal on my 2002 gase, not a recall per say, but if its been fixed you can get reimbursed. on the phone with pontiac now inquiring about my 93 gase for the same problem fixed 2-4 yrs ago.

steve

edit--- nothin on file for the 93. but everyone needs to call the pont. and voice your concers on other models that have this problem.

jroc99
08-04-2006, 08:34 AM
Hey Peeps

Ok heres the story.

I have recenenty been having the intermittant signals on my 2000GAGT
We've had some extreme high temperatures here lately and my problem has gotten worse.

Called GM Canada since I live in Toronto, Ontario
Also went to the dealer the other day to inquire about the problem
Dealer quoted me $200-$350 CAD to fix it.

Both have told me there is no recall for my vechicle.

How is this possible when I see so many posts for other people with the exact same problem???

HELP !!

AznGA
08-04-2006, 10:12 AM
Sometimes the turn signals on my 02 GA do not work at all. But if I turn the hazard signal on and off and then turn the turn signals on, it works.

Sprucegagt
08-04-2006, 01:57 PM
Hey Peeps

Ok heres the story.

I have recenenty been having the intermittant signals on my 2000GAGT
We've had some extreme high temperatures here lately and my problem has gotten worse.

Called GM Canada since I live in Toronto, Ontario
Also went to the dealer the other day to inquire about the problem
Dealer quoted me $200-$350 CAD to fix it.

Both have told me there is no recall for my vechicle.

How is this possible when I see so many posts for other people with the exact same problem???

HELP !!

The first post in this thread is the recall notice for this part. Your dealer is full of it. Print a copy of the first post in this thread and take it to another dealer or call Pontiac directly. Tell them your problem, the recall # and where to get it fixed.

AznGA
08-09-2006, 10:51 AM
Ok I know this recall is for 00 and 01 only. Is there anyone out there with different model year that got this fixed for free because you are experiencing the same symptom as the recall stated(signal not working at all)?

AznGA
08-16-2006, 07:08 PM
Well I replaced the hazard switch myself on my 02 GA. The part was around $24 and it was easy to replace. Both my dealer and Pontiac was being very unhelpful because all they wanted to know was my VIN, so they could look up if my car falls into the recall category.

z5oh
08-22-2006, 11:45 PM
the recall does not effect canadian cars...i had that argument with them today....how an an american 2000 gt have the exact issue as a canadian 2000 gt, yet you cover one and not the other........how much is the part? how hard is it to change?

AznGA
08-23-2006, 12:05 AM
It comes as a simple module that a harness plugs into. Just take the radio bazel off and you will see what I mean.

2000Gt Grand Am
08-24-2006, 11:03 AM
When my hazard switch went out, Carmax replaced it for me & it was a recall issue but since my car was under warrenty with Carmax they fixed it for no charge. I also was wondering about that console latch mechanism:

Recalls Summary

Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2000
Recall Number: 00V140000
Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: THESE VEHICLES DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE OCCUPANT PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS OF FMVSS NO. 201, "OCCUPANT PROTECTION IN INTERIOR IMPACT." THE CONSOLE COVER ON THESE VEHICLES DOES NOT STAY CLOSED WHEN A SPECIFIED VERTICAL LOAD IS APPLIED.
Consequence:
IN THE EVENT OF A CRASH, THE CONSOLE COVER COULD OPEN AND THE COVER OR ITEMS STORED UNDER IT COULD INJURE AN OCCUPANT.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE CONSOLE LATCH MECHANISM.
Notes:
OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 9, 2000. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-442-6537 OR PONTIAC AT 1-800-762-2737. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).

Are they talking about the glove box? Cuz mine pops open every so often or wont shut, i have to reshut it in order to keep it closed. Hopefully thats covered on my car. For that bolt, im sure if Carmax hasnt already done that they should get that done for no charge. Thats bogus that they dont cover certain ones for no charge when its thier fault they didnt make it durable in the first place. I also had to get a coolank gasket leak fixed but it was under warrenty as well.

Ktown01GT
08-24-2006, 11:07 AM
well seeing as i didnt own my GA back when the recall was issued and my hazard situation is just now starting to occur, do you still think itwould be honored due to the thought that it was never taken care of by the previous owner so it seems.

2000Gt Grand Am
08-25-2006, 06:48 AM
u could try & see if they'll honor it. They just dont make them like they used to.

jroc99
09-06-2006, 04:27 PM
The first post in this thread is the recall notice for this part. Your dealer is full of it. Print a copy of the first post in this thread and take it to another dealer or call Pontiac directly. Tell them your problem, the recall # and where to get it fixed.

Woot !.. Got it fixed today Free of charge.
Called GM Canada last week , who in turn called my local dealer.
There wasn't a recall on my specific VIN per say.. but they said I fell into some kind of other policy..which made me eligable for the free repair. 117,000 KM on the car right now..FREE IS GOOD !

jROC

TLG123
09-20-2006, 12:59 PM
I had the same repair ("unconditional recall" is what they called it) and not 4 mths after, I have this random clicking sound...turn signals and lights work...this clicking sound is very annoying...any advice?
Also, ironically enough, I'm having an issue with my ignition switch...sometimes I have to punch my dash to get my car to start...yet my auto start would work no problem (battery is dead now) I'm wondering if the repair guys messed around with my ignition switch while fixing the turn signal switch...as far as I know, they weren't getting paid for the job....hummmm, woundn't put it past them!!

kse73
09-20-2006, 03:37 PM
I had the same repair ("unconditional recall" is what they called it) and not 4 mths after, I have this random clicking sound...turn signals and lights work...this clicking sound is very annoying...any advice?
Also, ironically enough, I'm having an issue with my ignition switch...sometimes I have to punch my dash to get my car to start...yet my auto start would work no problem (battery is dead now) I'm wondering if the repair guys messed around with my ignition switch while fixing the turn signal switch...as far as I know, they weren't getting paid for the job....hummmm, woundn't put it past them!!

They get paid for any job they do. Doesnt matter if its under warranty or not. GM covers the bill.

dahvaio
11-02-2006, 02:52 PM
I had this fixed under warranty about one year ago; however, it has started happening again...

Will GM still cover it under warranty?

Is there a way I can fix it myself?

Thanks,
David

Quick_GT
12-04-2006, 06:10 PM
This site Rocks! I did the multi-function switch ( 3-way switch ) fix over the weekend and now itís fine. The clicking noise was driving me nuts! I thought I had another hazard switch problem, I tried me old hazard switch and had the same clicking noise from the hazard switch. When I touched the turn signal lever it would start clicking without turning on the turn signal. Everything works fine, just the intermittent relay clicking noise. I searched this site and found the answer in a few minuets. Just make sure to push the horn pin in as you put the assembly on the steering column. Thanks for the info and a great site!

nympaix
12-08-2006, 11:34 AM
i supposedly had my blinkers/hazards fixed a few years ago on my 2000 and they still screw up, just not as often. should i try to get them fixed again?

AnniversaryGT
12-11-2006, 01:39 PM
I just had my 2001 GAGT for three days and my turn signals went out....replaced the fuse...now they're workin again

fireboy153
07-04-2007, 11:32 PM
i got randomly working hazards and signals, the dealer says its already been fixed.. anyone whow were the thing is at? ill do it myself ha

torq455
08-07-2007, 09:02 PM
i got rid of my random clicking by cleaning the multifunction switch, however, my hazards still do not work. any ideas?

Pimpinmurf15
10-27-2007, 03:20 PM
A few weeks ago my 02 grand am se starting making the random turn signal noise, sometimes it will go constantly other times it'll only do it twice then stop....then start again. When your out driving around constantly hearing click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click, it gets annoying. Is this the problem that will cost ~$300 to fix? Help would be appreciated. Thanks.

torq455
10-27-2007, 05:56 PM
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56586

Check out the "How to" thread.

2001 GT Dave
01-20-2008, 11:17 AM
Hello all-
I am brand new to the site and this is my first post. Sadly, it couldnt be for something nice like upgrades or pics but for repairs. I bought a very nice used 2001 GT about three weeks ago. On the second day, the turn signals became intermittent!! My question is this. Since I am not the original owner of the car, do I still qualify for this recall?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Dave.

torq455
01-20-2008, 04:34 PM
they recall the VEHICLE. doesn't matter who owns it or how old. if you're not sure call the GM dealership. they'll want the VIN number to see if that car is part of the recall, so have it ready.

FunkZ
01-21-2008, 11:47 AM
This might help, this is the NHTSA action notice for the 99-00 model years.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/defect/results.cfm?action_number=RQ04005&SearchType=QuickSearch&summary=true

Note that there is no recall number like the 00-01 cars.

2001 GT Dave
01-23-2008, 05:10 PM
Thanks Torq.
I did as you suggested. Unfortunately for me, the dealer said my car already had the problem fixed. I told him it is still going on and that the replacement was probably also faulty. Unless I wanted to buy new parts, they said there was nothing they could do and not to let the door hit me on the way out. [just kidding]
Is there any way to fix this myself or do I have to bite the bullet?

torq455
01-23-2008, 10:08 PM
read the "how too" section. they revised the multifunction switch so that even if the random click exists, the turn signals will still function. the older original switches would develop that clicking, the turn signals would cease to function causing a road hazard.

DoCDooM
03-14-2008, 05:11 PM
Hey man,

Any idea if there is a recall for the 2002 model?

My delaership insists there are no recalls on the 2002 but mine deinitely had this problem.

I say "had" because I took the hazard switch apart and fixed the cold solder joints myself but I have friends and others who still have the problem and I don't feel like taking apart a half dozen dashes.

Funny that only 6 months ago GM was insisting that the part was out of warranty and I would have to pay for the repair myself, this is the first I''ve heard of them admitting that the solder joints are the problem hmmm?

Cheers

Doc

Heres the ones for yours. Loopholes my azz, its calles laziness.

Recalls Summary

Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2000
Recall Number: 00V140000
Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: THESE VEHICLES DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE OCCUPANT PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS OF FMVSS NO. 201, "OCCUPANT PROTECTION IN INTERIOR IMPACT." THE CONSOLE COVER ON THESE VEHICLES DOES NOT STAY CLOSED WHEN A SPECIFIED VERTICAL LOAD IS APPLIED.
Consequence:
IN THE EVENT OF A CRASH, THE CONSOLE COVER COULD OPEN AND THE COVER OR ITEMS STORED UNDER IT COULD INJURE AN OCCUPANT.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE CONSOLE LATCH MECHANISM.
Notes:
OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN JUNE 9, 2000. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-442-6537 OR PONTIAC AT 1-800-762-2737. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).



Recalls Summary

Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2000
Recall Number: 03V327000
Summary:
CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES HAVE HAZARD WARNING SWITCHES THAT MAY EXPERIENCE SOLDER JOINT CRACKING CAUSED BY RAPID TEMPERATURE TRANSITIONS AND THE SOLDERING PROCESS. IF SOLDER JOINT CRACKING OCCURS AND RESULTS IN AN OPEN CIRCUIT, THE TURN SIGNALS/HAZARD LAMPS BECOME INTERMITTENT OR INOPERATIVE.
Consequence:
WHEN THE TURN SIGNALS ARE INOPERATIVE, THE DRIVER CANNOT USE THEM TO SIGNAL INTENT TO TURN THAT COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE HAZARD WARNING SWITCH. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 16, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438, PONTIAC AT 1-800-620-7668, OR OLDSMOBILE AT 1-800-630-6537.
Notes:
GM RECALL NO. 03043. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONíS AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).



Recalls Summary

Make: PONTIAC
Model: GRAND AM
Year: 2000
Recall Number: 00V116000
Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE BOLT THAT ATTACHES THE REAR SUSPENSION TRAILING ARM TO THE LEFT REAR KNUCKLE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN TIGHTENED TO SPECIFICATIONS DURING ASSEMBLY.
Consequence:
THE BOLT COULD BACK COMPLETELY OUT OF THE JOINT AFFECTING VEHICLE CONTROL.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL TIGHTEN THIS BOLT.
Notes:
OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN MAY 3, 2000. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT PONTIAC AT 1-800-762-2737. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).

candancer1
04-15-2008, 10:21 AM
Hello all-
I am brand new to the site and this is my first post. Sadly, it couldnt be for something nice like upgrades or pics but for repairs. I bought a very nice used 2001 GT about three weeks ago. On the second day, the turn signals became intermittent!! My question is this. Since I am not the original owner of the car, do I still qualify for this recall?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Dave.


Hey! I bought my 99 Grand am GT a little over 2 weeks ago and my Signal lights started doing the same thing. I called Pontiac there is a number for it on one of the earlier post. They called the Pontiac Dealer in my area and set up an appointment which was yesterday. They fixed the problem no charge to me and called a few minutes ago to check to see if I was satisfied. So yes you can get it fixed still even if your not the original owner.. Pontiac was very helpful and went out of their way to help me

Fahmain
06-20-2008, 02:37 PM
Hey all.. New to this site.

I have a 2002 Grand AM SE and it's doing the same thing.

when you turn the turn signal on, sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. You have to put the signal down, and press the hazard button for 2 seconds, release it and then the signal will work for god knows how long. I read that there was recall on it, but only for the 00 and 01s, not the 02s.

So I called GM Canada and they said to take it to the dealer and see what they say, and report back to them. She stated "There is probably something we can do to help". So knowing the dealers here in town are idiots and money hungry... I am assuming they will deny doing it. We will see what happens.


I live in Canada by the way.

Fahmain
06-24-2008, 11:47 AM
Just a FYI to all those who care.

GM Canada contacted me today, and advised that they will cover the issue under the recall.

So it`s going in tomorrow to get fixed for free

AznGA
06-24-2008, 12:05 PM
Hmm, I didn't think that they would deal with any other models than 2001.
I just went and replaced it myself. About $10 for the part and 20 minutes of my time. Really easy.

Fahmain
06-24-2008, 02:56 PM
Hmm, I didn't think that they would deal with any other models than 2001.
I just went and replaced it myself. About $10 for the part and 20 minutes of my time. Really easy.

The dealer didn't want to do it. A call from GM Canada and they now are going to change it for free.

If I knew how to do it, I would. I am horrible with cars.

skydive120
11-09-2008, 12:12 PM
Anyone know the PN and where you can get the faulty relay that causes the turn signals to become inoperable?
Also where is this relay located?

Nevermind-- I guess it it the actuall switch-- so who has this part number??

Thanks-

Chris

tnuss915
07-10-2009, 02:57 PM
I have an 02 GAGT with intermittent turn signals. Hazards are fine. I see the recall is only for 00's ans 01's. It does sound like the same thing however.

01SmokewalkerGT
12-13-2009, 11:39 AM
Will this still be covered under the recall if you buy the car used and hasn't been done yet? I just replaced it and if its still covered by GM then I hope I can get a refund LOL!!!!

DrFabulous
12-13-2009, 03:04 PM
Will this still be covered under the recall if you buy the car used and hasn't been done yet? I just replaced it and if its still covered by GM then I hope I can get a refund LOL!!!!

If it hasn't been performed before, then yes, GM should be able to fix it, doesn't matter if its the original owner or not.

01SmokewalkerGT
12-16-2009, 06:50 AM
If it hasn't been performed before, then yes, GM should be able to fix it, doesn't matter if its the original owner or not.

I called them and the VIN on my car is 8,000 past the range for recalls ... So no fix from GM on my car LOL!!! but its good there is no recalls for it.

bmoc0129
04-25-2012, 10:25 PM
Has anyone done the fix themselves?

I actually fixed my hazard Switch and turning signals myself. I first replaced the hazard switch by ordering the part from a local dealer (AC Delco part...beware of the Dorman part because I had a defective one that caused the hazard lights to come on when I tried to use the turn signals). The hazard switch was $30 and it took me literally 10 mins to replace. The part that takes the long is getting the switches in the back for the ETS button and hazard button off so that you can replace them. Just be careful removing them.

Then I followed someone's tutorial on here for cleaning the multifunction switch behind the steering wheel (making sure to depress the horn pin as I put it back in...NOT HARD to do, trust me). The contacts build up this green looking grease that is contaminated and cause the switch to short out. This creates the intermittent clicking sounds after using the signals (or clicking sounds that happen randomly).

Saved me hundreds from going to the dealer or auto shop! I've been on a roll....I'm replacing my side mirror on my driver's side soon...have the part already and going to tackle it when I'm free.

DoCDooM
09-28-2012, 11:03 AM
I ran into this a few years ago, I have an 02 GAGT RAMAir.

The warranty replacement is only covered to the 01 model year but the problem is the same for all N body cars with that same hazard button above the radio from 2000 onwards.

The turn signal flasher is integrated with the hazard switch, it contains an electronic circuit board and a multi contact relay driven by those electronics.

If and ONLY if you are experienced with a soldering iron and fine component level electronics work you DO NOT have to cough up $200 to $300 for a replacement hazard switch.

The fix is as follows:

Remove the plastic bezel covering the radio that the hazard switch and traction control buttons are mounted to.
Remove the hazard button module entirely and move yourself to a well lighted work bench.

You will need a fine point soldering iron, some solder wick and some good old fashioned 60% tin - 40% lead solder, the currently used RoHS compliant tin - solver solder is the cause of the problem, the solder joints connecting the timing capacitor to the board have degraded and the cracked, this is called a "cold" solder joint.

Remove the hazard button from the module.

Use a small screwdriver and pliers to pull the centre part of the module with the circuit board.

Examine the circuit board, you will see a hole in the middle that has a capacitor mounted near it.

Use the soldering iron and the solder wick VERY carefully to remove the solder from one of the two pins on the capacitor, then use the lead solder to resolder the connection, after the first connection is repaired, repeat the process for the second one.

Examine the board with a magnifying glass looking for any other cold solder joints on any other components and repair as necessary.

Examine ALL of your work very closely an ensure that you have not shorted any connections, if you have, repeat the solder removal process and repair again.

Reassemble the hazard switch and plug it back in to the car to test it before reinstalling it in the bezel and putting everything back together.

If everything works put the car back together and Bob's yer uncle.

There is also an extremely well documented post on cleaning the contacts in your turn signal switch that resolves many signal light problems on this website at this link, if you can pull off this hazard switch repair then the turn signal repair is easy as no soldering is required.

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80705&highlight=turn+signal+switch+repair

One caveat, DO NOT USE GM's recommended dielectric gel to coat the contacts, that material is the cause of the problem and likely part of a programmed obsolescence program, it turns black and becomes conductive, creating a capacitance that generates the fast clicking issue.

Use simple Vaseline petroleum jelly, it lasts for years and you will never have a problem again.

I know this because I have tested it.

These ARE tested and proven solutions

Best of luck

Doc

DoCDooM
09-28-2012, 11:05 AM
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80705&highlight=turn+signal+switch+repair

Gtomike72
10-12-2012, 04:29 PM
Is this still available or did the time expire? My 01 does it all the time!

xalteph
01-01-2013, 10:45 PM
Do 2004 Grand AMs have this issue?

Kayaus
01-02-2013, 06:20 AM
Do 2004 Grand AMs have this issue?


Yup, but I'm sure it's too late (I don't know for sure, but I'm assuming since you know... Pontiac doesn't exist anymore) - but you can grab a hazard switch off eBay for ~$20 shipped. The clicking noise also affects the 2004s, but just check the guide listed above to DIY, or if it really bugs you, can pick up another multifunctioninf switch for ~$50.

xalteph
01-02-2013, 12:28 PM
Ok