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BradH
12-11-2004, 07:51 PM
Been a Honda fan most of my life. My last Honda (1990 Accord LX) had nearly 400,000km on it when I sold it to a neighbor's daughter over a year ago. It's still running great, original clutch, burns no oil, nearly perfect body.

I'm fairly happy so far with my 2000 GA GT sedan (70,000km), but curious to know how far these cars can go when looked after. So far, I have yet to see one with more than 240k (144,000 miles) on one.

Anyone out there have a high mileage GA (3400) with no major repairs?

onesexyga
12-11-2004, 08:03 PM
I dont know yet about the 3400, as mine is fairly new with only 65k miles. My old 3.3 grand am had 182k miles and was still running like new. I know of old GM 2.8 with 370k miles on them. GM motors last.

atc3434
12-11-2004, 08:57 PM
Yea, the motor and transmission are pretty strong, they should go for a long time. You may encounter some peripheral failures, like water pumps, shift selonoids, etc, but the actual internal components are pretty stout. The tranny is defintely weaker than the motor, the 3400 would probably run for 500k miles with regular maintnece, the tranny is a lot more subjective to abuse, and even the type of driving. But 200k miles shouldn't be a problem for either.

carsarecool
12-12-2004, 07:06 PM
well, i dont know how much this helps but back in 1997 we got a brand new oldsmobile silhouette, i didnt like cars as mucht hen so all i knew was that it said 3400 with that black plastic cover on top, when we got the alero 2 years ago i was like, hey that looks familiar! ANYway, we got the van w/ 1200 miles, in '97 and last year was the last time id seen it, had over 160,000 miles nothin major gone wrong no LIM leak, all on dino oil. tranny did go at 129 but that was from something else, not sure, we didnt have it then- also thats the 4t65e i think. gave it to my moms friend a while back, far as i know their still drivin it probly over 200,000 now. again not sure how much this helps since the silhouette/impala/monte 3.4 is 185/210 but same internals right? plus im sure a minivan hasent been floored, wound out and driven over 100 mph like some GAGT's.

360 Spyder
12-13-2004, 12:01 PM
Our '99 GA has almost 165,000 miles on her right now and she is still running strong.

Son of GM
12-13-2004, 05:02 PM
Hello. I'm a Long time lurker, new poster.

My Grand Am has 120,000 miles on it. At 70k Miles the LIM, Waterpump went out. Now at 120k miles, LIM again went out, fuel gauge went out, and now I have code P0440 that won't clear even after replacing the fuel cap. The body, engine and transmission is in top condition though! It seems 120k miles is the time for everything to go. I am thinking about trading it in now.
:violin

Sleepwalkr
12-13-2004, 05:22 PM
Any motor will last forever with the proper maintainence, repairs, and lotsa money.



Seriously though...... what these guys said.

crazypontiac03
12-13-2004, 06:03 PM
Treat it Good, Change the oil and maintain it good it will Run along @ss time this engine has been around for some time already.

mcgrady
12-13-2004, 06:56 PM
I had a friend that ran a shuttle service for a few years doing 900kms everyday. His vehicle was a 1996 Pontiac Transport 3100 V6. Damn thing had over 600,000kms on original engine and trans when he shut down the business and moved out west. It was probably 90% highway miles though. Still the van impressed me.

fireshadow540
12-19-2004, 11:23 AM
my 2000gase has 189,254 mi and still running....

MizzyGt
01-13-2005, 06:57 PM
My 2000 GrandAm GT has 108,000 miles on it and it's a piece of S H ! T !!! I'll never buy a brand new GM car again. Too many damn problems and a poor service department at every dealer I've taken it to. GRAND AMs are CRAP

blckgrndam99
01-13-2005, 07:52 PM
it might make it down the rode once you leave the dealer..............if your lucky

actually, im at 70k and mine runs real good, so id have to say that this car will hopefully be good til about 120-123 thousand miles

UNCTYPE-S
01-13-2005, 07:55 PM
My 2000 GrandAm GT has 108,000 miles on it and it's a piece of S H ! T !!! I'll never buy a brand new GM car again. Too many damn problems and a poor service department at every dealer I've taken it to. GRAND AMs are CRAP

wow, i should put this post in my signature. why are you here then?

GrahamKracka
01-13-2005, 07:59 PM
other than the LIM/UIM leak stuff the motor isnt too bad...the tranny is a different story tho

its the overall quality of the car itself thats the killer

Passn'U
01-13-2005, 08:08 PM
My 2000 GrandAm GT has 108,000 miles on it and it's a piece of S H ! T !!! I'll never buy a brand new GM car again. Too many damn problems and a poor service department at every dealer I've taken it to. GRAND AMs are CRAP

I'm thinking, might be the operator :smack:

Sleepwalkr
01-13-2005, 08:28 PM
*siksmom* I'm thinking, might be the operator :smack:

Gold99HO
01-13-2005, 08:37 PM
my dads 98 transport 215K on it before he totaled it last week and the LIMs went for the first time at 200K :metal:

yes you could still burn the tires at 200K with it.. it was crazy 3400 is a good motor!

GrahamKracka
01-13-2005, 08:57 PM
...its an ok motor...but if i had a choice again....no way in hell would i get another car with a 3400

Vinaashak
01-13-2005, 11:39 PM
Mine was at the drag strip all the way through till i got rid of it at 169k. Still ran like a top.

Amber99ga
01-14-2005, 07:07 AM
Hello. I'm a Long time lurker, new poster.

My Grand Am has 120,000 miles on it. At 70k Miles the LIM, Waterpump went out. Now at 120k miles, LIM again went out, fuel gauge went out, and now I have code P0440 that won't clear even after replacing the fuel cap. The body, engine and transmission is in top condition though! It seems 120k miles is the time for everything to go. I am thinking about trading it in now.
:violin


Agreed I'm in the same boat. have you had to replace any of your wheel bearing hub assemblys yet???

digitalquirk
01-14-2005, 10:45 AM
Found a '93 V6 GA in the Auto trader with 247000 km (roughly 154,000 miles) and it looks like it's in very good shape for the year and mileage:

http://www.trader.ca/Search/Details.asp?mknm=750&Region=&subcategory=&CAT=1

Here's a '94 V6 with 307535 km (over 191,000 miles), also in great shape:

http://www.trader.ca/CityAutomotive/Default.asp?Trader=1&CAT=1&mknm=750&Region=&adid=4107124&dContact=1389566&VLot=/CityAutomotive&ADS=4107124%7C&SRVlot=1&SRslts=1&q1=%3D+1&c1=%40category&q3=750&c3=%40makeid&q4=18640&c4=%40modelcode&q5=&c5=%40adcopy&q6=&c6=%40year&q7=&c7=%40askprice&q14=&c14=%40subcategory&mknm=750&mdnm=GRAND%20AM&Region=&subcategory=&alpha=

They're definitely out there, and if the ones I've found in the auto trader are any indication, they would seem to hold up quite well.

seffedman
01-14-2005, 11:28 AM
Any motor will last forever with the proper maintainence, repairs, and lotsa money.



Seriously though...... what these guys said.

I think the main issue here is the cars condition as a whole. Any motor should last forever with proper maintenance, but if everything else is going and your dumping a $hit load of money into the car then does it really matter how long the engine lasts? Will a GA stand up to a Honda for the long run AS A WHOLE?

Amber99ga
01-14-2005, 04:40 PM
I think the main issue here is the cars condition as a whole. Any motor should last forever with proper maintenance, but if everything else is going and your dumping a $hit load of money into the car then does it really matter how long the engine lasts? Will a GA stand up to a Honda for the long run AS A WHOLE?


I can say that I have dumped well over 3000 in the last year into my car just to keep it driveable, none of it to do with the engine. wheel bearings, water pump, battery (my fault on that one) break job, 2nd breakjob to fix the first one, wheel studs, blower fuses...got another wheel bearing that needs replaced as we speek, multiple lights on the car with bad sockets, headlight harness that needs replaced AGAIN, rust, you name it my car has a problem with it! But the engine still runs (as long as I dont get a bad dose of gas like I did christmas day, thats a whole nother story)...its just become a huge headache

Gold99HO
01-14-2005, 05:06 PM
Found a '93 V6 GA in the Auto trader with 247000 km (roughly 154,000 miles) and it looks like it's in very good shape for the year and mileage:

http://www.trader.ca/Search/Details.asp?mknm=750&Region=&subcategory=&CAT=1

Here's a '94 V6 with 307535 km (over 191,000 miles), also in great shape:

http://www.trader.ca/CityAutomotive/Default.asp?Trader=1&CAT=1&mknm=750&Region=&adid=4107124&dContact=1389566&VLot=/CityAutomotive&ADS=4107124%7C&SRVlot=1&SRslts=1&q1=%3D+1&c1=%40category&q3=750&c3=%40makeid&q4=18640&c4=%40modelcode&q5=&c5=%40adcopy&q6=&c6=%40year&q7=&c7=%40askprice&q14=&c14=%40subcategory&mknm=750&mdnm=GRAND%20AM&Region=&subcategory=&alpha=

They're definitely out there, and if the ones I've found in the auto trader are any indication, they would seem to hold up quite well.

stay AWAY from the 94's 60degree motor they sucked! i used to own one lol

carsarecool
01-15-2005, 12:42 AM
I can say that I have dumped well over 3000 in the last year into my car just to keep it driveable, none of it to do with the engine. wheel bearings, water pump, battery (my fault on that one) break job, 2nd breakjob to fix the first one, wheel studs, blower fuses...got another wheel bearing that needs replaced as we speek, multiple lights on the car with bad sockets, headlight harness that needs replaced AGAIN, rust, you name it my car has a problem with it! But the engine still runs (as long as I dont get a bad dose of gas like I did christmas day, thats a whole nother story)...its just become a huge headache

amber thats pretty much exactly what the repair bill for mine sounds like- what miles did all that stuff happen? i saw SE so im guessing you have a 4 cyl, i do too just turned 90,000- did the rt frt bearing, abs light still comes on intermittently, water pump/tstat this past summer($770!) couple brakejobs, everything but the battery/alternator(expecting it any time) all that happened between 78-88k

engine itself runs fine, GM electronics suck though..

Panacea
01-15-2005, 01:34 AM
Agreed I'm in the same boat. have you had to replace any of your wheel bearing hub assemblys yet???

Holy fock you're still here? God damn woman tell Tony to let your ass on the net once in a while and tell him to do the same.

Anywho, my GA only has 54k, but I can honestly contest to the motor being much stronger than the tranny.

Spoon told me a while back that the reason for the lim leak is because of the engines desing. It has too many angles or something to that effect to where it can't get a good seal.

Anyway, with the way I drive my car, and the way it pretty much runs brand new, I think the engine will be the least of my worries. Now the tranny and other items may be a little different, but once they get replaced they should last much longer.

digitalquirk
01-15-2005, 06:08 AM
My guess is that the Grand Am's transmission should last (or even outlast) the engine provided it's not abused (neutral drops), the fluid is changed regularly, and if a transmission cooler is installed. That's true of any automatic tranny. Take care of the car, and the car will take care of you for a long time.

Amber99ga
01-15-2005, 06:38 AM
my alternator went out at gap in 03 I think I was at 80-90 some thousand then. currently I'm at 117,000. I replaced driver front and passenger rear wheel bearings last winter then this november I just replaced the passenger front, and now I'm hearing the same clunking and thumping I'm come to know very well in the drivers rear.


FYI: I know Tony never posted it on here but thanksgiving weekend his Transmission went out in his car...at 70,000 miles..fun stuff

tranceokido
01-15-2005, 08:35 AM
87K and only some few problems. The drivers side window stopped working the other day. A while back I had it in the shopt because the height adjuster motor when out and they replaced that. But they broke the switch so it pops out somtimes, and I was never going to complain about it unless I had to take it back in for another repair. So now I have to take it for the Hazard switch, the window motor, and to get a new seat switch. No problems with the engine or anything else. I think my LIM was replaced before I bought the car though.

WhiPontiac
01-15-2005, 10:36 AM
A buddy of mine had a 1998 Chevy Venture with the 3400. It went 170,000 miles before he blew it going 105mph for 3 hours straight.

carsarecool
01-17-2005, 11:29 PM
I replaced driver front and passenger rear wheel bearings last winter then this november I just replaced the passenger front, and now I'm hearing the same clunking and thumping I'm come to know very well in the drivers rear.


so the mechanical part of your bearings went? mine didnt make any noise or anything just the ABS and trac off lights were on, so it was the WSS- electrical parts stopped working before the mechanical part :scream:

A buddy of mine had a 1998 Chevy Venture with the 3400. Itwent 170,000 miles before he blew it going 105mph for 3 hours straight.

lol thats great, why would you need to go 105 in a venture for three hours?

GrahamKracka
01-17-2005, 11:33 PM
I think the main issue here is the cars condition as a whole. Any motor should last forever with proper maintenance, but if everything else is going and your dumping a $hit load of money into the car then does it really matter how long the engine lasts? Will a GA stand up to a Honda for the long run AS A WHOLE?


hell no

bremen242
01-18-2005, 06:02 AM
Don't except a grand am to give you the same life as a honda

I have 95,000 miles on my '94 Grand Am gt- I've had to replace-

Alternator ~ 70k
Belt ~ 70k
Water pump ~ 75k
Lower control arm bushing ~ 85k
Balljoints ~ 90k
plugs and wires twice
Had to clean egr passage way in upper intake
have had a egr failure with the computer for the last 15k mi (turns out to get trouble with the AC-weird)
AC compressor grinding itself to death, slowly
Lower intake manifold gasket is leaking oil- needs changed
has a horrible death wobble @ 70mph (actually 65 since the speed is off)

my buddy's '00 civic repairs:
warantee cover defective head gasket @ 5k miles
brakes
oil
he has 110k on his civic now.

I don't even want to go into what my other buddy has had to do to his '99 ga/gt to get it running again.

onesexyga
01-18-2005, 07:21 AM
You cant really compare a 94 to a 2000 regardless of miles. As for engines, any car can go forever with the proper maintence. The body of a GM will outlast a Honda or other foreign car. Thats a fact. In New Hampshire thats really the biggest factor.

Bottom line. Maintain your car. Sell it when it ****s out on you.

WhiPontiac
01-18-2005, 01:15 PM
lol thats great, why would you need to go 105 in a venture for three hours?
That's just how he drives. And he had to drive 8 hours in one day.

Pacman
01-18-2005, 01:54 PM
obviously not more than 60k when i'm driving lol

Amber99ga
01-18-2005, 05:22 PM
so the mechanical part of your bearings went? mine didnt make any noise or anything just the ABS and trac off lights were on, so it was the WSS- electrical parts stopped working before the mechanical part :scream:



yeah mine was the mechanical parts of all 4

93 GT
01-18-2005, 09:51 PM
My mother has a '93 GA GT with the 3.3 and auto tranny. It has just a tad over 2,000 miles on it and it runs great but I found a little metal in the oil last oil chage so I`m trying to get her to buy another maverick :whistle: . The grand am hasn`t never realy had no engin work aside from the tune ups , o2 sensors , oil chages ect. The only bad thing about these cars is the struts , ball joints and outer tie rod ends tend to go out around 1,900 miles .

onesexyga
01-19-2005, 06:34 AM
Wow. 2,000 miles. Its getting up there. Almost time for an oil change.

DarkKnight
01-19-2005, 01:23 PM
Hello. I'm a Long time lurker, new poster.

My Grand Am has 120,000 miles on it. At 70k Miles the LIM, Waterpump went out. Now at 120k miles, LIM again went out, fuel gauge went out, and now I have code P0440 that won't clear even after replacing the fuel cap. The body, engine and transmission is in top condition though! It seems 120k miles is the time for everything to go. I am thinking about trading it in now.
:violin


Stop using dexcool, and you LIM might last for more than a few months. ;)

ram444
01-19-2005, 03:11 PM
dont get me wrong guys i love my grand am but these cars do have a lot of poroblems. ive been pretty lucky but ive heard and seen some bad things happen expensive things. My GA has 78,000 and like I said ive been pretty lucky. The only thing i had to replace is the water pump, 1 tyrod, and brake pads. Like everyone has said if you take care of youre car it will last a lot longer than you think.

93 GT
01-19-2005, 03:25 PM
onesexyga; Wow. 2,000 miles. Its getting up there. Almost time for an oil change.

Hehehe :boogie: I ment 200,000 miles and as for the struts ect. I ment 190,000 :hang:

mikeyguru
01-20-2005, 01:01 PM
i have replaced the alternator due to a hurricane when i was in NC tried to go through some flooded road water got to some cable and fried it. Replaced the water pump bout 80,000 miles it was leaking simple fix 20 bucks. oh and the major one tranny went out on me i had no reverse at first then it just went worse from there. that was bout 105,000 miles. since its been replaced i havent really had any other problems. sittin on about 160,000 miles now. engine is good i do my own maintenance thing runs strong.