Boosted Alero around Detroit?!?!?

[crazyHPguy]

Hey...has anyone that lives in the metro detroit area seen a silver alero driving around with a big intercooler in the front of it?

I drove past it on the freeway...I didnt reconize it at first because it didnt have the front bumper on the car, but it had a nice big intercooler in the front with tubing wrapping around into the engine compartment. The guy seen me looking at the car and he just took off...I didnt have a chance in my GT. maybe it is something GM is doing?

just wondering what it is!!!

[jaketuff]

I think I know... he will likely answer though.

JOUT

[grass]

if you know jaketuff then why wont you answer for him, or tell him to visit us with pics

[VTECSiGAH8R]

I know it is not from GM. They would never cruise with a boost setup where the bumper is off for an intercooler.

[jaketuff]

I will relay the post to him, don't mean to be a :tool: about it.;)

JOUT

[grass]

your not a :tool:, i was just wondering bout it

thanx for relaying the message

[Irate]

Originally posted by grass
your not a :tool:, i was just wondering bout it

thanx for relaying the message
no, he is a :tool: , as will be evident in the upcomming video :D

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by IrateGT

no, he is a :tool: , as will be evident in the upcomming video :D

Doh! Player hater!

JOUT

[homegrown]

hey crazyHPguy-

did the intercooler kinda look like this one...

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by homegrown
hey crazyHPguy-

did the intercooler kinda look like this one...

Looks trick HG, TRICK.:thumbs: Underhood shot in time heh?;)

JOUT

[homegrown]

all in due time jaketuff......all in due time:)

[nfsga]

Originally posted by crazyHPguy
Hey...has anyone that lives in the metro detroit area seen a silver alero driving around with a big intercooler in the front of it?

I drove past it on the freeway...I didnt reconize it at first because it didnt have the front bumper on the car, but it had a nice big intercooler in the front with tubing wrapping around into the engine compartment. The guy seen me looking at the car and he just took off...I didnt have a chance in my GT. maybe it is something GM is doing?

just wondering what it is!!!

Probably a stupid 2.4 or ecotec :(

[HavolinGA]

Probably a stupid 2.4 or ecotec

hey i take offense to that so would syhunter and the other 2 who are doing turbo sets ups.

[Irate]

Originally posted by HavolinGA


hey i take offense to that so would syhunter and the other 2 who are doing turbo sets ups.
I think some of that may be stemming from the fact that we (us 3.4'ers) can't do a neato turbo setup with an IC :rolleyes:

[homegrown]

Originally posted by nfsga


Probably a stupid 2.4 or ecotec :(

By the looks of that intercooler, i'd say its a V6 Turbo. Probably pretty fast too.

[homegrown]

Originally posted by IrateGT

I think some of that may be stemming from the fact that we (us 3.4'ers) can't do a neato turbo setup with an IC :rolleyes:

anything is possible with time, money, and a little engineering:)

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by homegrown


By the looks of that intercooler, i'd say its a V6 Turbo. Probably pretty fast too.

Heh, heh, heh.;):D

JOUT

[aleroboy]

updates? more pics?
Am I dethroned form being the fastest alero?
I'll be claiming that throne agian soon. :thumbs:

[PACE]

Originally posted by homegrown
hey crazyHPguy-

did the intercooler kinda look like this one...

Homegrown...Is that your car? That concrete looks like the kind on the westside of the state (G.R.)...(I know cause I spend many-a-night staring at it in a drunken stuper at WMU)...what is with all the secrecy?:confused:

If I just built a bad-azz turbo...I'd be showin it off!!:eek:

[TrueBlueAlero]

Hey... I dont' recognize that silver car, but he's definitely got the same rims as i do.... good taste buddy!!! :)

Props to him on the nice ride.

[TrueBlueAlero]

Honestly i do wanna know who owns this car.... and just how fast he is.... :thumbs:

[PACE]

Hey HG,

If you have designed a Turbo to produce for the 3.4.....might as well quit your day job.....you'll be paid! Let us know if it breaks into the 13s!!

[steve_m]

Originally posted by ECAP
Hey HG,

If you have designed a Turbo to produce for the 3.4.....might as well quit your day job.....you'll be paid! Let us know if it breaks into the 13s!!


Yeah, and let me know where to send the check to buy one. :-)

[homegrown]

Originally posted by TrueBlueAlero
Hey... I dont' recognize that silver car, but he's definitely got the same rims as i do.... good taste buddy!!! :)

Props to him on the nice ride.

hey...thanks TrueBlue! you should see all the other stuff i got on this thing:)

[homegrown]

Originally posted by TrueBlueAlero
Honestly i do wanna know who owns this car.... and just how fast he is.... :thumbs:


That is my car. it should hit 13's no prob. You guys are gonna crap your pants when you get a look at it. dyno numbers are due out soon along with lots of pics!

[aleroboy]

Originally posted by homegrown



That is my car. it should hit 13's no prob. You guys are gonna crap your pants when you get a look at it. dyno numbers are due out soon along with lots of pics!

4 cylinder or V6?

[SikMindz]

I wanna seeeeee! wtf

[SpyhunteR]

Originally posted by nfsga


Probably a stupid 2.4 or ecotec :(

and people wonder why I don't like 3.4's......... :huh:

well hey at least he has something running.
*grumbles about lack of parts on doorstep and shortening track season*

[homegrown]

Originally posted by aleroboy


4 cylinder or V6?

V6

[Craig99SE2]

Originally posted by nfsga
Probably a stupid 2.4 or ecotec :(

WTF kind of comment is this??? Grow up nfsga! :tool:

[embe]

Can't wait for the details :boogie:

[aleroboy]

Originally posted by homegrown


V6

:eek: :cool: :D

So I do have good compitition then for being the fastest alero:D

[crazyHPguy]

So did you do all the work yourself?!?!?

is it all custom?????

all I can say is WOW!!!

[TrueBlueAlero]

You should come on Aleromod and chat with us all sometime - perhaps meet once in a while with the Grand Ams and us from Southern Ontario....

I'd love to see your car.... was it a really hard mod to do?? And expensive?

[PACE]

HG,

Where in Mich. can I get nice mandrel bent 3" piping??? Where did you get yours?

[homegrown]

Originally posted by crazyHPguy
So did you do all the work yourself?!?!?

is it all custom?????

all I can say is WOW!!!

ummm yeah, you could say that...

My roommates and I did ALL of the fabrication, cutting, welding, bracketry design, header design, IC tubing, you name it, we did it. Everything is pretty much stainless steel or billet aluminum. My roommates are all pretty sharp guys except for this one named Thom, he is kinda of a tool at times, but i let him help me out, I gave him remedial tasks like cutting tubing at certain marks and routing wires and stuff....like i was saying....this is a very trick setup, here's what I am running:

-T3 Super 60 Turbo w/ Integral wastegate (7-8 lbs boost).
-Spearco Intercooler with billet aluminum brackets (700 cfm)
-2.5" Polished stainless IC tubing
-Eagle Talon BOV
-Stainless steel headers (1.5" primary into a 2" Y pipe, with merge collectors)....Ceramic Coated
-CNC cut "D" shaped header flanges matched to gasket
-R/T high flow Cat
-2.5" down pipe out of the turbo
-Borla dual exhaust
-Trailblazer fuel injectors (34 lb/hr)
-Battery relocated to trunk in Box with a quick disconnect plug
-MSD Ignition
-Blue Taylor wires
-Ported Upper and Lower Intake manifold and T/b
-K&N filter
-Stainless T-bolt clamps for the IC tubing
-Blue Silicone hose couplers
-"Polished" upper Intake (with 3400 lettering removed) and front valve cover to match mirror shine of IC tubing
-Electronic Boost guage (Autometer Phantom series...)
-Pyrometer guage for exhaust gas (bung welded into header at cylinder #5)
-Oil pressure guage
-Lots of heat shielding wrap

[homegrown]

Originally posted by ECAP
HG,

Where in Mich. can I get nice mandrel bent 3" piping??? Where did you get yours?

Ecap-

I got all of my mandrel bent stuff from California...."Burns Stainless", they have excellent customer service and their prices aren't too bad. I am not sure if they have 3", but you can check their website.

HG

[homegrown]

Originally posted by aleroboy


:eek: :cool: :D

So I do have good compitition then for being the fastest alero:D

the race is on...hehehehe!

[PACE]

Originally posted by homegrown


Ecap-

I got all of my mandrel bent stuff from California...."Burns Stainless", they have excellent customer service and their prices aren't too bad. I am not sure if they have 3", but you can check their website.

HG

that must be some good azz pipe! They want $50 for a one foot piece!!

[homegrown]

Originally posted by ECAP


that must be some good azz pipe! They want $50 for a one foot piece!!

dude-

damn! that sounds a bit high, but on second thought i know i easily spent a grand on all of my tubing (IC and headers)....but i guess i could afford it since i was doing all the work myself....

[aleroboy]

borla is like $70 for a 5 foot straight section

[homegrown]

Originally posted by aleroboy
borla is like $70 for a 5 foot straight section

I think Ecap forgot to say one foot mandrel bent. the price is almost double compared to what i paid for my U-bends when you look at 2.5" vs. 3". i went and checked myself and its $14.40 for a 1 ft straight section of 3" tubing.

[aleroboy]

Thats a steal!

[Doug]

I got all my mandrel bends from jegs. Good pricing

[Aleromi]

Um what up with a pic of the turbo ALERO???

[homegrown]

ok guys-

here's some pics, i decided to change some stuff around this week to try to get a better air intake system, but this is how it looks.....i have got the car half tuned, still need to do some more tweaking, i think i am gonna run 10-12 lbs of boost instead of 7-8, but we'll see...dyno numbers next week maybe! the msd box is mounted above the fuse box, it isn't in all of the pics, because it broke and MSD is fixing it....enjoy!

[homegrown]

another shot

[homegrown]

another...

[homegrown]

this is a shot of how the IC tubing is routed inside the bumper and where the BOV is placed.

[homegrown]

I wanted a cooler spot for my air filter (it was right by the front header, with no good spot for fresh, cool air), so i am taking out my washer fluid tank and gonna but a k&n filter in place of it, here is a shot of the area w/o the washer tank.

[homegrown]

last one....i was at the dyno shop last weekend, but it wasn't working right and i didn't get any pulls in, you can see the msd box in this picture...

[aleroboy]

10-12lbs??
Arent you worried about knocking?
what kind of fuel will you be running in it?

[embe]

Interesting. I'm still trying to figure out how all your piping is routed....

Nice set-up though. Did you do that all yourself?

[grass]

HEY HG!
glad to see you got pics up, and thank god i could keep my mouth shut, its been along time since i found out, whew

either way very nice setup and good work, very commendable, 2 thumbs up :)

[homegrown]

Originally posted by aleroboy
10-12lbs??
Arent you worried about knocking?
what kind of fuel will you be running in it?

we will tune that computer to prevent all knock, 93....the intercooler will help out too...

[grass]

how did i miss this thread when it started getting big?

what does knock mean?
(and no one say knock knock...whose there blah blah)

[aleroboy]

Originally posted by homegrown


we will tune that computer to prevent all knock, 93....the intercooler will help out too...

good luck.
I'm getting about 3 degrees of advance with a 2.5" pulley
and only running about 8.5-9 lbs of boost up here.
no computer tune yet just stock stuff. no knock retard but it allready cuts timing way back.

edit: found out the computer is cutting my timing to save the tranny.

[Aleromi]

FLIP-N SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW much did it all cost ??

ANd are u going to have this on the market???

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

[homegrown]

Originally posted by Aleromi
FLIP-N SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW much did it all cost ??

ANd are u going to have this on the market???

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

hey thanks, i am glad you guys like it. I would say I spent about 4 grand, tuning included. And that is with me and my roommates doing all of the work. We have got some pretty trick stuff on this car. I don't think there are many GA's/Alero's rolling around with stainless steel headers with "D" shaped flanges....Personally, i don't even think if other company's came out with a kit it would be as nice as this one, but you never know. And I thought about retailing a kit myself, but it is just way too much work to get everything outsourced and for me to even turn a profit, i would be selling it for way more than people on this board would want to pay for. I guess each of us has to find our own unique way to get more hp, and this is how i am getting mine:)

[Aleromi]

Ic cost to make the turbo kit will be to high to make any money on it....

But if u have all the molds and plans for the turbo maybe a bigger
company that deals in 3400 parts will make it for us and u get
$$$$$$$$$$$$ for royalties ....

Or u r just going to keep it for ur self.....:p

Well anyway it Sweet and if i had 4 grand extra i would be right there to get 1 .....:thumbs:

[RivMan]

Gotta say man, That thing is Bad Ass! Hopefully you guys can get that Dyno problem figured out...

-Rob

[homegrown]

hey thanks....looks sweeter in person, don't ya think? we did figure out why it was running so much boost (13+ lbs), my heat shield for the turbo was blocking the wastegate outlet hole....whoops, my fault there...still haven't cracked the dyno issue yet.

[Molson]

not to be a troll, but HG, you should come to Aleromod.com

[homegrown]

no offense to aleromod, but i like the grandamgt crowd better, while at times a thread or two can get a little uncivil (as mfuller put it), there is a plethora of knowledge and insight to be gained from the people here:)

[Molson]

Originally posted by homegrown
no offense to aleromod, but i like the grandamgt crowd better, while at times a thread or two can get a little uncivil (as mfuller put it), there is a plethora of knowledge and insight to be gained from the people here:)


Yeah, good people here.
I like em both.
:thumbs:

[Tweeter]

That Turbo looks like the one I have in my Trunk!!!:) Nice job!!

I would love to see it person.

[grass]

Originally posted by Tweeter
That Turbo looks like the one I have in my Trunk!!!:) Nice job!!



psssstttttt.....it should be under your hood :)

[homegrown]

Originally posted by Tweeter
That Turbo looks like the one I have in my Trunk!!!:) Nice job!!

I would love to see it person.

hey thanks man, i have actually done a few things since the pics i posted, like made my own CAI in the fenderwell and put on a polished stainless heatshield for the exhaust housing. i should be at the picnic next summer! hopefully some turbo GA's will be there as well!

[cavingman]

oh man. tell me if your ever in lansing. or if i ever come to GR i wanna check it out :)
looks good :thumbs:

[Tweeter]

psssstttttt.....it should be under your hood :) [/QUOTE]

Yes, It should but it has to start somewhere. I have a friend that is good with putting turbo's on cars. The one in my Trunk was one he has setting around and gave it to me. now I just need a few more parts and some money!!

[mfuller]

Originally posted by Tweeter

psssstttttt.....it should be under your hood :)

Yes, It should but it has to start somewhere. I have a friend that is good with putting turbo's on cars. The one in my Trunk was one he has setting around and gave it to me. now I just need a few more parts and some money!!

A turbo will definitely kick you out of DSP, Chad....:confused: Welcome to SM; say high to all the Corvettes for me....

How'd the season end up for ya?

[grass]

Originally posted by Tweeter

psssstttttt.....it should be under your hood :)

Yes, It should but it has to start somewhere. I have a friend that is good with putting turbo's on cars. The one in my Trunk was one he has setting around and gave it to me. now I just need a few more parts and some money!! [/QUOTE]

i know i was joking, did you move from newport to carlton?

[Tweeter]

I took 1st in DSP for North West Ohio. And Yes you are right, I would be going in to SM. But I think It will wait for one more year. I have just bought a House.

I can hear Milan Drag way on a Quit night.

And Yes I have move from Newport to Carleton. I bought My Mom and Dad's House.

[cavingman]

Originally posted by Tweeter
I took 1st in DSP for North West Ohio. And Yes you are right, I would be going in to SM. But I think It will wait for one more year. I have just bought a House.

I can hear Milan Drag way on a Quit night.

And Yes I have move from Newport to Carleton. I bought My Mom and Dad's House.

ooh, party at tweeters after the MI crew hits the strip :D

[raven350]

Tweeter...

Who knows... maybe one day your car will grow up and come join mine in the E-Modified class.....

Think it might be a possibility??

Can we have a bigger Bomb-Fire at your house this time???

Last one was pretty weak...

[00silvermistGT]

Hey Homegrown, where abouts in GR are you from? I live in the area and would like to check out the ride.

[homegrown]

right in the city, close to downtown- 935 Pine is my address if you want to look it up on mapquest. i am around a lot considering its winter time and I never do jack at work because i am just zoned out somewhere between graduating from college and finding a real job.

i also just bought a bigger turbo, one i should have went with from the get go. its a t3/t04B hybrid with a .63 stage III turbine housing/trim wheel and V trim compressor wheel. its gonna rip hard! along with the polished compressor option and the turbine ceramic coating and water cooled bearing section. I should be putting that in this weekend or next.

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by homegrown
i also just bought a bigger turbo, one i should have went with from the get go. its a t3/t04B hybrid with a .63 stage III turbine housing/trim wheel and V trim compressor wheel. its gonna rip hard! along with the polished compressor option and the turbine ceramic coating and water cooled bearing section. I should be putting that in this weekend or next.

Damn, now you don't fool around... unlike that guy with the SC that keeps talking about rebuilding his tranny!

:stupid:
Pat

[Aleromi]

Originally posted by homegrown
right in the city, close to downtown- 935 Pine is my address if you want to look it up on mapquest. i am around a lot considering its winter time and I never do jack at work because i am just zoned out somewhere between graduating from college and finding a real job.

i also just bought a bigger turbo, one i should have went with from the get go. its a t3/t04B hybrid with a .63 stage III turbine housing/trim wheel and V trim compressor wheel. its gonna rip hard! along with the polished compressor option and the turbine ceramic coating and water cooled bearing section. I should be putting that in this weekend or next.

Hey homegrone how the Alero running ?? u put in that new turbo??/ Oh did u change the ECU on ur car?

:thumbs:

[SPAZ]

there goes my tittle :( , well it couldn't happen to a nicer guy. That is a great set-up and people should learn that there are so many different combos and things that can be done to our cars. Great job HG, and I look forward to Racing you if I make it out this year.:thumbs: :D

[homegrown]

Originally posted by jaketuff


Damn, now you don't fool around... unlike that guy with the SC that keeps talking about rebuilding his tranny!

:stupid:
Pat

haha....yeah, its those damn credit cards you know, always getting me into trouble.

[homegrown]

Originally posted by SPAZ
there goes my tittle :( , well it couldn't happen to a nicer guy. That is a great set-up and people should learn that there are so many different combos and things that can be done to our cars. Great job HG, and I look forward to Racing you if I make it out this year.:thumbs: :D

thanks spaz! i look forward to it, i'd like to race a couple different sc boys.

aleromi....the turbo should be by in this week. I have already had the ecu tuned to accept the boost, but i think i will go in for one final tune and get everything perfected and then post some dyno numbers. here is a shot of my new turbo mocked up in the engine.

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by homegrown


thanks spaz! i look forward to it, i'd like to race a couple different sc boys.

aleromi....the turbo should be by in this week. I have already had the ecu tuned to accept the boost, but i think i will go in for one final tune and get everything perfected and then post some dyno numbers. here is a shot of my new turbo mocked up in the engine.

Spaz said "if" he makes it... :D I know he is not going to miss out on such an opportunity to display his GAGT pride...

HE MENTIONED HE DID BUY THE GRANDAMGT.COM THONG FOR HIMSELF!:eek::confused::huh: wtf

j/k Wayne...

HG, you will likely need some major tranny empowerment, any ideas??? Is this a daily ride for you?

Pat

[homegrown]

good point about the "if"...hahaha, well i am sure he has a lot farther to go than me. as far as the tranny goes, i plan on waiting for it to puke, then upgrade whatever puked. that is my theory at least.

[jaketuff]

Originally posted by homegrown
good point about the "if"...hahaha, well i am sure he has a lot farther to go than me. as far as the tranny goes, i plan on waiting for it to puke, then upgrade whatever puked. that is my theory at least.

He mentioned a possible towing capability...

Anyways... I believe what I lost were the clutchpacks, primarily 3rd gear. So.... Send an email along to Chris!;)

Pat