rear sway bar installation

[tshboy]

i wanna do this this weekend but i am unsure about the exact method. here goes:

1. jack up each side of the car and place jack stands under each side of the car.

2. remove bushings (any special tools reqd?)

3. slide the bar out around the exhaust or at least do it out one side or the other.

4. reverse the process with the new bar and connect the new nylon bushings.

correct me if i missing something. this appears straightforward enough. will i need to cut or remove anything else to get this pig out or what?

any comments/insight is appreciated.

~tshboy~

[peeps]

It might make things easier with the tires off as well. Also, talk to Matt Fuller about how to modify the Energy Suspension (I think that is the name) greasble bushings to fit for our application to alleviate squeaking problems that people have experienced.....

[iceman]

Straight from Matt Fuller:


You will need to trim one side of the bracket - it is just a tad too wide to fit in the slot in the rear subframe. Once you get that done they should bolt in just fine.

All I did was clamp the bracket in a bench vise and use a hacksaw to trim a bit of the bracket. My only suggestion is to measure how much room you have in that slot and only saw off as much material as absolutely necessary. Measure twice, cut once, as they say.




Here are my bushings:

http://iceman.draepi.org/bushings.jpg

[mfuller]

Originally posted by tshboy
i wanna do this this weekend but i am unsure about the exact method. here goes:

First, crawl under the car and unbolt the swaybar endlinks from the suspension knuckles; this way, there will not be any spring tension on the bar when you jack the car up.


1. jack up each side of the car and place jack stands under each side of the car.

2. remove bushings (any special tools reqd?)

3. slide the bar out around the exhaust or at least do it out one side or the other.

4. reverse the process with the new bar and connect the new nylon bushings.

Grease liberally!.


Lower the car and then re-connect the end links to the suspension knuckles; they should go on with a minimum of fuss.

correct me if i missing something. this appears straightforward enough. will i need to cut or remove anything else to get this pig out or what?

any comments/insight is appreciated.

~tshboy~

[tshboy]

mfuller --> so i disconnect the bar from the wheels before jacking the car? i have the red bushings from tnl bar. will i need to grease these bad boys? if so, what grease do i need?

sorry, im a noob to suspension mods.

[tshboy]

Originally posted by iceman

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/avatar.php?userid=93&dateline=1030644647


lol, iceman i think i drove past that sign last weekend. i was in PA for vacation. i was busting a gut when i saw those signs. my fav was the "High DUI Area" near the row of strip joints and adult stores along the river.

~tshboy~

[iceman]

yep that one is in the poconos.. they are all over pa tho

[RAMAIR1]

You are going to LOVE the way your car rides/corners when you get this thing on....I can't wait to get the front one done too. I'm defintely gonna crash from going around corners entirely tooooo fast though!!! Enjoy

I do have a squeaking from the bar when it's cool though!

[tshboy]

i am so excited plus when i get my eibachs on it will help a lot. i just put on my SLP rear STB. rock solid. much better than tnl brace. i already notice less shimmy in the rear end around corners. this will be a good weekend. gauge pod install too.

[Rba007]

I would get on summit.com, and order some energy suspension polyurethane greaseable bushings. They are greasabel, and wont squeak like your nylon ones will. Matt and I are both running these bushings, and they are awesome. Also, youll love the swaybar. The difference between the stocker is huge (especially on my se!). Itll make you want the front one bad (i got it, its awesome). Have fun! And, try not to slide toooo much.

[Rba007]

Oh, and I did not have to modify the rear brackets much. Only had to bend out one end of them to conform to the cars frame thingy. Youll know what im talking about when you see it. It will take you an extra 5 minutes. The "cutting" of a bracket is with the front bar. That one is a little tight!

[iceman]

Originally posted by Rba007
I would get on summit.com, and order some energy suspension polyurethane greaseable bushings. They are greasabel, and wont squeak like your nylon ones will. Matt and I are both running these bushings, and they are awesome. Also, youll love the swaybar. The difference between the stocker is huge (especially on my se!). Itll make you want the front one bad (i got it, its awesome). Have fun! And, try not to slide toooo much.

And you can read the p/n for those bushings off the pic I posted above..

[tshboy]

Originally posted by iceman


And you can read the p/n for those bushings off the pic I posted above..

only 1 prob: summit is either out of or doesnt carry 9-5158R anymore. they have 9-5158Y which are 13/16" / 20.5 mm greaseable bushings.

i will keep looking. thnx guys.

EDIT: found em @ jegs. lata.

[tshboy]

Originally posted by tshboy


only 1 prob: summit is either out of or doesnt carry 9-5158R anymore. they have 9-5158Y which are 13/16" / 20.5 mm greaseable bushings.

i will keep looking. thnx guys.

EDIT: found em @ jegs. lata.

hey guys i have a major problem! the drivers' side link on the wheel didn't line up right and i accidentally cross-threaded the bolt. can someone help me find the part# for the bolt and a tap for it! i am guessing it is a metric thread.

[tshboy]

i think i'm gonna hit a junkyard in the morning (hopefully one will be open) and get the bolt then find a tap to match. just a minor glitch in my plans.:wave:

[tshboy]

ah well that was a PITA but i was able to salvage the bolt. got a 10mm-1.5 tap at TrueValue and we are all good to go.

besides that, the rear STB and the Sway bar....wow! what a difference. my car is nearly shimmy-free now. hrm, i don't think i will even screw with the front sway bar.

i just took a sharp curve near my house @ 60 (actually i accelerated through the curve) and it was unreal. no typical gm shimmy out of the curve. now for eibachs!

woohoo!

[RAMAIR1]

If I ever get mine from PFYC that front one will be in there....it can only get better. It kicks asscrack already, imagine it being even tighter! Anyway, enjoy! I know I do...

[iceman]

Originally posted by tshboy
ah well that was a PITA but i was able to salvage the bolt. got a 10mm-1.5 tap at TrueValue and we are all good to go.

besides that, the rear STB and the Sway bar....wow! what a difference. my car is nearly shimmy-free now. hrm, i don't think i will even screw with the front sway bar.

i just took a sharp curve near my house @ 60 (actually i accelerated through the curve) and it was unreal. no typical gm shimmy out of the curve. now for eibachs!

woohoo!

Yep.. just stuck on the rear swaybar today.. love it!!

[Watch4MyBu]

Hey iceman....how much did you torture the caron the way home after I got off. By the way I found everything ok.. Thanks a lot

[nnewton123]

I will soon be having the front and rear on.... I'm also waiting for the front to come in from pfyc.

[BorlAlero]

I just installed a rear sway on my 3.4 and here's the best info I can give.

1- PAY ATTENTION to how the old bar comes out. My stepdad and I installed it backwards before we realized that had happened
2- WD-40 it is your BEST friend. Apply it to the old and new bar so that your end bushings come off without trouble.
3- The bushings at the top are the tricky parts. The new bushings are undoubtedly neoprene so they will not fit since your old ones are worked in. Make sure the back of the bushing gasket is slotted in before you try to re-bolt it.
4- If you know someone with car ramps, back your car up onto them. It's a whole h*** of a lot easier than trying to double jack the car, and safer too.

Best of luck to ya.

[tshboy]

i hear ya. i actually did this with my dad's help and only jacking and removing one wheel. it was a bit tricky but we got it. i found the best way to do the bushings was that i was actually under the middle of the back end (with two jackstands and the jack for safety) and grabbed both and worked in both at the same time. a little elbow grease and wd40 and you can start the nut back on and you will be set. tricky part is lining up the end links. as i mentioned i cross-threaded the drivers' side bolt but fortunately not too bad so i was able to salvage the bolt and retap the hole. make sure the car suspension is not in tension when you try and do this! have someone push down slighty on the back of the car to help things line up and relieve tension. also, soap is really good to get the end links back on.

[RAMAIR1]

I finally got my front bar in from PFYC. I'm thinking that maybe I should get the Energy Suspension bushings for up front.....rear makes a bit of noise when cold. So, does anyone know the part # for the front? Summit Racing.com is a PITA.

Thanks....can't wait to get that bad boy installed!

[tshboy]

not sure on the fronts. what dia is the bar again? here is where i got my rear bushings from - jegs:

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=884&prmenbr=361

i got PN 355-9-5158G 7/8" Black for the Rear. Have yet to install them.

[nnewton123]

part #'s.......

9.5158G 7/8" 22mm for rear bar.
9.5164G 1 1/8" for front bar.

It's just too bad they only make them with the inline bolt pattern. Would make installing them a lot easier if there was a set made for how our bushings mount.

here are the part #'s if you go straight through summitracing.com....

ENS-9-5158G <-- back
ENS-9-5164G <-- front

[iceman]

yeah I posted somewhere in another thread what you have to do to the brackets to get them in..

[tshboy]

yeah, here it is:

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=10905#post10905

i just cut mine tonight. :thumbs:

[iceman]

What kinda grease did you use??

I just picked up some slick 50 brand from pep boys while i was there.. the damn thing is squeaking already. so I am gonna go buy a grease gun, and re-grease those babies.

Matt Fuller said don't use lithium based lubricant, because it will eat the polyurethane. Hopefully what I got isn't, it doesn't say it is. Says "great for wheel bearings and other auto applications" on the can :/

[tshboy]

haven't installed em yet. i need to get some grease.

[RAMAIR1]

Thanks for the speedy replies. Even with the greasable bushings you're still sqeaking?? Is it worth the expense then? Should I even bother? Thanks again.

[Chippy]

I'm about to get the greasable ones. Can't stand my car squeaking! The greased ones should last a while, but hey, they're greasable, so get under there and lub 'em up. I personally think it's worth the expense.

[iceman]

It's definitely worth it, I just don't think I put enough / applied to the right spots..

[tshboy]

yeah these bad boys work great! no squeaking!

i just used some grease my dad had in a gun laying around.

[iceman]

nice, I have to go get a grease gun. What kind of fitting you need to hook up to the bushins?

[tshboy]

erm, nothing. my dad's old gun has a nozzle that you stick down over the grease point. i just pumped once or twice, that's all it took. i caked it in pretty heavily.

[iceman]

sweet.. on my list for tomorrow :)

[iceman]

Ok.. I went out and got a grease gun. Theres a load of grease on the bushings now... Still squeaks like mad. You think it is the endlinks??

[tshboy]

hrm, could be the end links. WD40 those and see if it helps. good luck.

[iceman]

yep i'll try tomm... maybe i'll grease up the bushings more.. but i put a lot on.

[RAMAIR1]

Got my greasable bushings from Jeg's today. Maybe this weekend for installing the front bar? I can't wait.

Has anyone used the greasable bushing on the new front bar? How much modification is needed on that one to make it work?

[nnewton123]

should be the same as the back I would think. Pretty sure they mount in the exact same way.

[iceman]

For the life of me, I can't get these things to stop creaking. I greased the crap outta the bushings.. And sprayed into the end links.. I am about to take the bar off and start from scratch.. it's annoying!!!

[RAMAIR1]

Just turn u the radio. I have to wait till next Saturday for my front bar install.

[iceman]

yeah dude I am doin that too.. hehe.. but still this creakin around bumps / corners has gotta go :(

[RAMAIR1]

Mine creaks a little bit when the car is cold, but after a bump or three it shuts up. I'm hoping the greasable bushings will kill this all together. Maybe you should just start from scratch.

[tshboy]

mine were ok at first but now they have been creaking a bit. i wd40'ed the end links and i checked the bushings and everything looks good. may just take some time for them to loosen up a bit.

[nnewton123]

well I just have the bushings that came with the bar on the front and back. The back is perfectly quiet but the front bar creaks quite a bit going over larger bumps in the road. Might try the energy suspension bushings one of these weekends if I have time. I don't mind too much though cuz it handles soooo saweeeet.

[RAMAIR1]

I hate to keep reviving this old thread, but.....I finally got my front sway bar installed. While the difference isn't as dramatic as the rear bar was, it is nicey nice. The suspension is sooooo nice and tight now. Now I just wish that I could afford a new set of struts.....like now! I also wish I could live where it doesn't snow, so I could lower it! I also wish that I could swipe the front seats out of my bro-in-law's Focus ZX3 and throw them into my GAGT....so I don't fall out the window when I take a hard corner....our seats suck.

Anyway....the sway bars RULE. Definitely well worth every penny!!

[Rba007]

Ramair, time to check off one "excuse":thumbs: I drove my eibach grand am all winter... And had no problems. Control is better on snow and ice as well due to the lower center of gravity, and the lesser body roll. Go for it!

[iceman]

yeah I forgot to post up about my creaking.

I took off the bar and bushings, they had plenty of grease.. soo... i took off one of the endlinks and greased that and left the other untouched. Now it only creakes on side I didn't.. So I'm gonna take them both all the way off and grease them up good.

Anyone ever use the mantapart polyurethane (or any other company) endlinks??

[nnewton123]

I think matt f might have energy suspension endlinks..... but I don't know of a part number or where he got them from.

[Jeremy]

Iceman, I think your problem was the fact that you used Lithium based grease at one point. I made that mistake myself. I ended up taking the bar off and cleaning the bar and the bushings and starting from scratch.

[mfuller]

Originally posted by nnewton123
I think matt f might have energy suspension endlinks..... but I don't know of a part number or where he got them from.
I've got them on my front bar, but since I've switched to a PFYC rear bar, I am using factory end links in back - my RAT bar (which came with Energy Suspension endlinks) will still be used for track days (still haven't been able to break it yet...:thumbs: ). I'll try to dig up a part number, but you can just get them at any speed shop; i.e. Summit or Jeg's.

[iceman]

Originally posted by GrandAmGuru
Iceman, I think your problem was the fact that you used Lithium based grease at one point. I made that mistake myself. I ended up taking the bar off and cleaning the bar and the bushings and starting from scratch.

I originally used slick 50. It didn't say anything about lithium.. But I did take off the bar, clean everything out, because Matt warned me about lithium grease. I am usin some mobil 1 synthetic now... I need to take off the endlinks completely this time (I just kind of moved em to the side a bit :( ) Oh well at least I have something to do this weekend ;)

[Rba007]

I also use the mobil one syn stuff (red right?). It has worked VERY well, much better than other greases I have tried on the bushings. It took a day to work fully into the bushing, but im running the same grease that I had in 6 months ago, and still no squeaks (other than those eibachs!).

[RAMAIR1]

Oh yeah....the squeaking.....it's completely gone. The Energy Suspension bushings are doing their job so far. I don't want to think about greasing that front one though when the initial greasing wears off. What a bitch of a location for those.... I really love pushing this thing into corners now....I hope the first time my tires let go that there are no big trees around!!!!:eek:

[cwcole]

If I buy the front and rear sway bars from PFYC.com (Next Level Sway Bars). Do I need anything else, if I do not want noise from my suspension?

Bushings and special grease?

[peeps]

Originally posted by cwcole
If I buy the front and rear sway bars from PFYC.com (Next Level Sway Bars). Do I need anything else, if I do not want noise from my suspension?

Bushings and special grease? Go back, read the entire thread, and I am sure your questions will be aswered. Hell, I think there are even part #'s listed....

[cwcole]

I saw those, but I want to know if they are needed?

[RAMAIR1]

Originally posted by cwcole
I saw those, but I want to know if they are needed?

Needed? No. But, if you want to avoid noise, yes. If the noise comes back, it's time to regrease. Special grease? Nah! Just do like da GURU sez and don't use lithium based grease.

[tshboy]

to answer your question, yes.

the pfyc bar comes with red poly bushings. the existing sway bar is tied up with rubber bushings which don't squeak but wobble. the trade-off for a stiffer suspension and bushings is the squeaking. think about it, the stiffer and firmer the drive the more stress is being placed on those components to keep from deflecting. the poly bushings squeak a lot.

if you purchase the energy suspension bushings at least you get the firm support of stiffer bushings and also the ability to grease them, which reduces the squeaking noise.

i too have some squeaking after installing these. i used some grease my dad had in a gun, which is probably lithium based. (he said it was new stuff too) so i am going to be tearing this apart this weekend to see where i'm at.

i think it's my endlinks that are sqeaking too.

[cwcole]

Those of you with the sqeaking, do you have red or black polyurethane bushings?

[tshboy]

Originally posted by cwcole
Those of you with the sqeaking, do you have red or black polyurethane bushings?

the pfyc bushings are red.

the ES bushings come in two colors: red and black.

[iceman]

The color doesn't make a difference, it's just an appearance choice

[mfuller]

Originally posted by cwcole
Those of you with the sqeaking, do you have red or black polyurethane bushings?
The color of the polyurethane doesn't matter; it's the same stuff. Heavier swaybars don't flex (as much) as stock bars; instead, they rotate (or twist) in the bushings....that's why they squeak if not kept lubricated.
Stock bars are so wimpy that they just flex (along with the rubber bushigns) - they never get a chance to twist, so no squeaks.

[cwcole]

Maybe,

There are three types: (that I know of)
Rubber
Polyurethane
Polygraphite

One person suggested that the red ones do not contain graphite.
Polygraphite bushings should not sqeak or need greasing, but I cannot find any.

http://www.p-s-t.com/sway.html

http://www.p-s-t.com/polybu2.html

[SilverGA2001]

Hate to bring back such an old thread, but I got my sway bars today. I was looking at all the squeaking problems people have had, and I wanted to know if anyone has tried this stuff from Jegs;

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=881&prmenbr=361

I'd think that it'd probably work well enough, it's made for the Energy Suspension bushings. Let me know what ya think. Thanks.

[RAMAIR1]

LOVE my sway bars. Both really combine to dramatically improve the handling characteristics of the car. The Energy Suspension greasable bushings made all the difference too. Not a peep out of either front or rear. My bro-in-law did the install for me and used a non-lithium based clear grease...although I'm not sure what kind. Whe you install just make sure to use ALOT, cuz the zerks are a biotch to get to, especially up front.

Good luck and ENJOY!!!

[tshboy]

thanks silver, i think i need to get some of that lube. mine still squeak slightly.

[Boater]

I'm right in the middle of installing TNL rear sway bar and I can't get it to fit. What's the trick to puting in the new bar? I figured out how the stock bar goes back in but the new bar doesn't clear the bottom the the strut. What's the trick???

[iceman]

Lot of wiggling!! also you gotta move the connectors on the gas tank ... it's hard to describe but it's a PITA, just keep trying :)

[Boater]

thanks iceman. i'll keep at it. i'm determine to hit the twisties today.

[SilverGA2001]

Hey guys. I just did the install on my rear sway bar. The only thing that messed me up, and that I'm worrying about right now is the reinstallation of the end links. Mine didn't want to go back on straight, they were tilted a bit to the side, I figure I don't have them on the right spot on the sway bar, and am hoping they kind of work themselves to where they want to be. Did anyone have this problem? It's weird, they sit just a little off the side and won't go on straight, so I muscled them on most of the way, and I'm going to check them later after a little break in drive. Everyone please tell me how the endlinks went for you. Thanks.

Edit: Sorry I won't let this thread die! :D

[AaronGTR]

I had trouble getting my rear sway bar in too. Ended up I had it flipped around. It looks like it will fit but it won't because the bends in the middle are facing the wrong way. Try flipping it over and switching sides.

I noticed the same thing with my end links. They were a little off. I just twisted them a little with a pair of pliers so they lined up and hand turned the bolt's untill they were in far enough so I wouldn't cross-thread them. One was a little high too, so I had my dad sit on that side off the car to compress the suspension a little so it would line up.

I installed my front sway bar on thursday as well. That was a biyatch to get in! Took about 4 hours. The car handles awesome now though.:D I did notice an immediate improvement with the front bar. Now I just need spring, struts, and new wheels and tires, and I'll really be cornering on rails. If you're planning on doing the front bar yourself you better have air tools. You'll need an assortment of metric sockets and wrenches, six jack stands and a hydraulic jack. Also a few wood 2x4's to push apart and hold the subframe off the unibody.

Also, the rubber end link bushing on the front and rear look like pretty standard universal bushings, so I'm going to do some checking and see if I can find polyurethane bushings for them.

[iceman]

Energy suspension makes poly endlink bushings... Matt has them I think, hopefully he can chime in or I can find a part ##

[SilverGA2001]

Originally posted by AaronGTR
I had trouble getting my rear sway bar in too. Ended up I had it flipped around. It looks like it will fit but it won't because the bends in the middle are facing the wrong way. Try flipping it over and switching sides.

I noticed the same thing with my end links. They were a little off. I just twisted them a little with a pair of pliers so they lined up and hand turned the bolt's untill they were in far enough so I wouldn't cross-thread them. One was a little high too, so I had my dad sit on that side off the car to compress the suspension a little so it would line up.

I installed my front sway bar on thursday as well. That was a biyatch to get in! Took about 4 hours. The car handles awesome now though.:D I did notice an immediate improvement with the front bar. Now I just need spring, struts, and new wheels and tires, and I'll really be cornering on rails. If you're planning on doing the front bar yourself you better have air tools. You'll need an assortment of metric sockets and wrenches, six jack stands and a hydraulic jack. Also a few wood 2x4's to push apart and hold the subframe off the unibody.

Also, the rubber end link bushing on the front and rear look like pretty standard universal bushings, so I'm going to do some checking and see if I can find polyurethane bushings for them.

Pretty sure it's not upside down or anything. I was careful. I took a paint marker that we use at work to write on the Duramax engines, and I got under there and wrote on the old bar where that part of it was facing. Then I lined the endlinks to the knuckle so I'd know when I had it back to it's orignal location, and to make sure I put the end link on the right way. So then I took the old bar off (yeah, kind of annoying the way you have to jiggle it around) and sat it in front of the new one. Compared them, and made sure all the bends were the same, and then took the paint marker and wrote on the same spots as the old one. Got me lined up real quick. Only thing was there is something under there, in the middle of the car, some kind of box, with a metal endcap, and it didn't want to fit through there. It's where the bar slides up between the rear suspension. Tight fit. I looked last night after I took the car down the road a bit. Looks like the endlinks worked themselves back into position. Everything looked okay, so I jacked it up and put stands under it real quick, backed the bolts out and put them back in, bit better this time. Everything seems okay now. I'll check them again later today. :)

[SilverGA2001]

Ok, had the rear sway bar on for a few days now. No squeaking. I used the silicon grease that PFYC sends with them. Worked well enough, and I made sure to cover anything and everything I could. But now I'm getting an odd Clunk sound in some turns. It sounds like it's coming from the left side, and it's just a bit of dull "doonk". Anyone got any guesses? And another thing, is it my imagination or is the a$$ end taking bumps a lot harder now? I wasn't sure if it could affect ride quality or not, but I swear it's got a more harsh feel to it. Tolerable, but sometimes over dips it's like a jarring effect. Oh well, price of performance.

[iceman]

Clunk? I get the occasional clunk from my exhaust bumpin around but that wasn't there before the sway bar. All I get is the creaking because my endlinks aren't greased up well. Didn't notice any stiffness on bumps, but turns, yeah baby :)

[SilverGA2001]

Originally posted by iceman
Clunk? I get the occasional clunk from my exhaust bumpin around but that wasn't there before the sway bar. All I get is the creaking because my endlinks aren't greased up well. Didn't notice any stiffness on bumps, but turns, yeah baby :)

I used some of the left over grease on my endlinks. No sounds are such sweet sounds sometimes.

The turning is ridiculious though. My tires let go way before the car does. Stupid RS-A's are worn to death anyway. I can't wait to get the front bar on, but I'm not capable of doing it myself, so I guess I have to have a shop do it.

[mfuller]

Originally posted by SilverGA2001


...My tires let go way before the car does. Stupid RS-A's are worn to death anyway.
Goodyear seems to design all their tires with very small slip angles. Bridgestone seems to be more generous. For a good explanation of slip angle and how it influences handling, look here (http://www.auto-ware.com/setup/slp_hndl.htm).

[RAMAIR1]

Originally posted by SilverGA2001
Ok, had the rear sway bar on for a few days now. No squeaking. I used the silicon grease that PFYC sends with them. Worked well enough....

Give it about a month, the squeaking will begin. I haven't had any clunking though. I also noticed that certain bumps are a little bit more jarring.....but I liiiike it, reminds me that those bad boys are out there. I really would like to drive a stock GAGT with 16" wheels and stock sway bars just so I can complare. I know I am spoiled by now.

Good luck with getting this straightened out and getting the front one installed.

This thread will never die.........

[peeps]

since this thread deals with the topic, i need an answer.....

I recently installed my rear sway bar with ES bushings and thought I was to use a lithium based grease. Seth pointed this thread out to me tonight and it got me wondering.

How long will my bushings be good for with the lithium based grease? Should I do it now, or could it wait until after GAP?

Matt?

[peeps]

aslo, I tried a google search for lithium based grease and polyurethane bushings and got no returns with bad effects caused by the lithium based grease.......

Matt, can you find me some info on this or point me in the right direction?

[mfuller]

Originally posted by peeps
Matt, can you find me some info on this or point me in the right direction?
You want a non-lithium-based grease; lithium breaks down the polyurethane, turning the polyurethane brittle and causing it to crack. I've found that marine grease works pretty well.

[peeps]

Originally posted by mfuller
You want a non-lithium-based grease; lithium breaks down the polyurethane, turning the polyurethane brittle and causing it to crack. I've found that marine grease works pretty well. How long before that will start? Do I NEED to do it today, this weekend, in a month?

[mfuller]

Originally posted by peeps
How long before that will start? Do I NEED to do it today, this weekend, in a month?
If it were me, whenever you get time. But you should be fine for a month.

[peeps]

Originally posted by mfuller
If it were me, whenever you get time. But you should be fine for a month. Cool, though as it turns out, I have a headlight out so I have to go by the parts store anyways. I suppose I will do it tonight. Good thing that removing the bushings doesn't require removing the endlinks....otherwise, I would have just waited until they were toast! :D

[peeps]

Well, everyone here can rest soundly tonight. My bushings have been cleaned and reloaded with non-lithium grease! We'll see if it gets rid of my endlink squeaks.....

[PontiacGT2K]

i've had no sqeaking from my endlinks yet. I've gone 5k miles with the rear sway bar/energy suspension bushings....it's been nice! Springs squeak once in a blue moon...

[PACE]

Back in dat ass with the resurection :)

-Office Space

This is a great thread! I just ordered my rear sway bar for the '03. I'll be sure to use non-lithium grease! :)

[PontiacGT2K]

No-talent ass-clown.

[mfuller]

Wow....this sure brings back memories.

[iceman]

:stupid:

[loudalero]

Hey mfuller will these fit on the alero with little to no modifications or what? After reading this thread I want bad.

[mfuller]

Yes, they fit any 1999-2004 Grand Am or Alero (I wish PFYC would update their site to reflect this).