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kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 02:47 PM
Hello, I'm having a rather serious problem. About 3 days ago I was driving home from the mall, and I stop the car and start to walk away and suddenly this...liquid starts pouring out of my car. Thinking it was oil, as it was brownish in color, and I had just gone to Jiffy Lube to have my oil changed...I imediatly called my mechanic.
However, upon turning the car over, my coolant light goes of immediatly...so I check and it's empty...I refill with some spare I have and drive to the mechanics. They tinker with it and look at the hoses, and tell me it looks fine and to come back if it does it again. I drive home...pull into my spot and boom...it's all over the road again. So I slam some water in it, and drive it back. This time they put more coolant in AGAIN, and the mechanic gets in and goes for a 15 minute drive. Brings it back, checks everything, and tells me he sees nothing wrong and it must be a "bubble." (Cough) Could anyone tell me what this is?

jeffescortlx
08-01-2005, 03:03 PM
Next time it happends, look to see where the fluid is comming from. It's kinda hard for us to tell with out seeing it.

kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 03:08 PM
it's on the right side of the car near the right wheel (the back edge of it or so) about a half foot in

kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 03:09 PM
ummm...thats at the front end...sorry, though I put that in

GAGT7386
08-01-2005, 03:10 PM
Had the same problem with mine for a while, flush out your system. I would guess that it is coming from the overflow hose right next to the cap. Once mine would get really hot, once it came to a stop the fluid would fill my overflow container so high that it would as you put it " gush " out. I flushed out all that old crap and put new dex - cool in, problem solved.

kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 03:47 PM
what should I do if this does not fix the problem?

Ajaxus
08-01-2005, 04:04 PM
get a new mechanic.

or possibly take a piece of chalk and put a mark right next to the leak *so you get an EXACT and not approximate location* then take it in, show your mechanic the exact location of the leak, and see what they can do about it. *shrug*

kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 04:24 PM
I'm just very worried, becasue last time on my way back my car almost over heated...it hit the red and I slammed into some beauty salons parking lot immediatly and let the engine cool. I put the last of my coolant into it, and drove it in the second time. I just don't want to be driving this and have my engine overheat, and next thing you know I'm replacing the heads and *bleep* I'm also very poor...having just fixed my breaks at the tune of 980 dollars (all four rotors and my pads and a tire rode) Frankly...I'm broke don't know what to do.

DevilSlayer
08-01-2005, 04:30 PM
I have the same problem, but not nearly as bad as yours. It leaks a little bit but only when I turn off the engine. I'm pretty sure its coming from the overflow hose. Not sure whats the cause. I have to refill the coolant once every month or so. I always keep 2 or 3 bottles of coolant (Dex-Cool approved of course) in the trunk. Got plenty if for some reason it decides to really start leaking on me.

Ajaxus
08-01-2005, 04:40 PM
devil is smart keepin the extra coolant, might be a good idea to keep a bottle just incase. if this keeps happening then you really need to grill your mechanic or find a new one to get the issue resolved. you shouldnt be paying someone to do work that isnt helping.

btw, is your mechanic at the dealer or independent? cause i know the ones at dealers have a tendency to try and screw you over, my buddy recently dropped his dealer mech to switch to the one i have. they just tried to screw him over too much too often. greedy bastards.

Panacea
08-01-2005, 04:42 PM
If I had to take a guess, I would say your resevouir cap isn't on all the way, or it's busted. That's why it's leaking out the overflow.

Again, that's my guess.

kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 04:49 PM
I have a guy I take it too at Monroe

kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 06:33 PM
Just t so people don't think I don't read the forums...I realize that Grand Ams have crappy Gaskets. However, I also know that generally when a gasket goes, coolant enters the oil resevoir...leading to hurt bearing and so on. I have checked my oil, as did my mechanic and even my father. It's perfectly clean.

DevilSlayer
08-01-2005, 07:25 PM
Just t so people don't think I don't read the forums...I realize that Grand Ams have crappy Gaskets. However, I also know that generally when a gasket goes, coolant enters the oil resevoir...leading to hurt bearing and so on. I have checked my oil, as did my mechanic and even my father. It's perfectly clean.
It's def not leaking into my oil. Just changed it on friday and all 5 quarts of it was purple oil (I use Royal Purple). The oil gets really thick when the coolant mixes with it, right?

So you say it might be that the resevouir cap is bad? I know for sure its all the way on, but why would a busted cap cause it to go out the overflow hose? I've had this problem for about a year. I had the coolant flushed in January, but it still occured at same rate as before the flush.

kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 07:31 PM
hmmm...actually...there are two scenarios...interior and exterior leakage. Exterior leakage is just messy, but not dangerous as long as you top it off, although it needs to be looked at. Interior is dangerous. I'm sorry...have been doing research and actually at the top of this forums page is a rather good post on it. It mentions having the mechanic do a pressure test to check the Gasket and such. I'm going to do this, I would recomend you do it also

digitalballz
08-01-2005, 07:48 PM
Dudue can I just say you screwed on your brake job. BIG TIME! as for the coolant leak could be the overflow maybe a waterpump (although i doubt it). Def do a pressure test. Dont know why they wouldnt in the first place. If your coolant is mixed with your oil it will look almost like chocolate milk. anyway good luck.

stangdude
08-01-2005, 07:49 PM
another suggestion, after you get it fixed, get rid of that dex-cool crap, dex-cool is good for nothing but eating gaskets and causing other problems. Even a lot of GM techs say to drain the dex-cool out as soon as the warranty is up. I'd recommend either the good 'ol green stuff or the new amber "on size fits all" antifreeze that everyone seems to be going to.

kelenelvial
08-01-2005, 08:23 PM
It's just sad that with so many people having this problem GM didn't recall the vehicels. It's a rather nasty and int he end costly endevour that should have been dealt with. From what I can see many MANY people have had this problem, and GM should be responsible. I love my Grand Am to death, but not sure if any vehicle is worth what I'm putting into it.

brim
08-01-2005, 08:54 PM
change the cap on the reservoir, or else it's your water pump possibly

GRide05
08-01-2005, 08:56 PM
It's just sad that with so many people having this problem GM didn't recall the vehicels. It's a rather nasty and int he end costly endevour that should have been dealt with. From what I can see many MANY people have had this problem, and GM should be responsible. I love my Grand Am to death, but not sure if any vehicle is worth what I'm putting into it.
I hear Ya! I have 167,000 Miles On My GAGT and I'm putting in my 3rd set of head gaskets. Counting the ones that came with it. Seriously though, I could have gotten a Trans Am WS6 instead of buying my car and fixing it all of the time. Yup Really starting to hate it.

Panacea
08-01-2005, 10:07 PM
another suggestion, after you get it fixed, get rid of that dex-cool crap, dex-cool is good for nothing but eating gaskets and causing other problems. Even a lot of GM techs say to drain the dex-cool out as soon as the warranty is up. I'd recommend either the good 'ol green stuff or the new amber "on size fits all" antifreeze that everyone seems to be going to.

:clueless: , ;oops

Dex Cool does not eat gaskets!!!

DevilSlayer
08-01-2005, 10:36 PM
The gaskets failed because of a bad design, not because of dex cool. As for GRide05 having to replace the head gaskets, are you sure you're getting the redesigned gaskets and not the older style gasket? And damn, how'd you get 167k on a 2000 GA. Mines a 99 and I only have 86k miles.

Where would I go to get a new cap? When I go in to get my belts replaced I'll have them do a pressure check.

kelenelvial
08-02-2005, 10:07 AM
Day Two...no loss of fluid...

kelenelvial
08-02-2005, 01:07 PM
End of day two, no problem. Wondering if resevour cap was loose. Still nervous about driving it. Trying to find someone who can do a pressure test, so far NO one in my area does one, except Monroe who has looked at it twice WITHOUT doing one. Frustration mounts

Panacea
08-02-2005, 04:56 PM
Any dealership should be able to do a pressure test.

excitement
08-03-2005, 02:44 PM
I had the same problem three weeks ago. The little rubber ring on my cap was broken so all the coolant went bye bye out the overflow hose whenever I turned the car off. Replacing the cap fixed the problem.

kelenelvial
08-03-2005, 03:36 PM
thrid day, took it to a small time guy I know of. He says pressure test tottaly not needed, he knows the problem. Check the cap, says first time it was probably over-filled. Then he proceeds to bleed it, tinker with some things, and tada, problem solved. Not only did he fix my coolant"problem" but he fixed my heat...and didn't even charge me! Forget dealerships, small town mechanics who love corvettes are the way to go.

DevilSlayer
08-03-2005, 07:28 PM
So it is the cap. Sweet. I'll have my shop do that next time I'm there.

kelenelvial
08-03-2005, 07:53 PM
was not the cap for me, but Jiffy Lube overfilling and or leaving the cap on loose. The second time was due to the fact Monroe didn't even bleed or go through ANY of the right proceedures necessary for putting new coolant in. They did it however the second time, hense the no spillage since yesterday and I even passed my scheduled saftey inspection. Your problem sounds more like a leak, and should definatly be pressure checked. Mine was NOT leaking at all, and there was no sign of it getting into the oil. Although some Gaskets will suddenly just go, once gone they continue to leak. My pressure is very good, and likely there was some air in the line due to the fact that the idiots forgot to bleed it. Get yours checked though...I'm still considering have a pressure check done on mine, but only if the coolant comes out again. Going to just carry some extra coolant in the car just incase. One never can tell.

DevilSlayer
08-03-2005, 09:07 PM
Well its not in my oil. Just changed it last friday and it was clean of coolant. It's coming out of my overflow hose. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure if they bleed the coolant system. When I got it flushed my dad brought my car to this third rate shop which obviously looked cheap. Price for the work was cheap, but they did a cheap job. I'll have the local shop that I bring my car to now reflush my system.

wake_100
08-04-2005, 05:39 AM
wow, and you used to go to monroe? i went there once and they tried to get me for a $850 brake job. i have had the little problem you guys do, some idiot forgot to tighten the cap all the way :) that was me.