FlowLighting HID Kit - $234.99

[Oznium.com]

Check it out here: http://www.oznium.com/hid

The FlowLighting HID's are 3 times brighter than standard halogen bulbs.

http://www.oznium.com/images/hid8.jpg

The kit comes with everything you need: 2 ballasts, 2 bulbs, harnesses, hardware and instructions. 6,000K and 8,000K are the most popular colors. 6,000 is white/blue. 8,000 is more blue. 14,000 is a very rare purple. The stock color is around 3,500K (yellow).

The install is super easy! Take your regular bulbs out by twisting them. Twist in the new HID bulbs. Mount the ballasts. Plug the power wire from the ballasts into the stock wiring. Plug the other end of the ballast into the bulb. Light it up!

To mount the ballasts, find a flat surface in the engine bay. Use the included mounting hardware to securely mount the ballast. If you can't find a suitable flat area, you can try cable ties to secure the ballast to some sturdy object. It is also possible to use strong double-sided adhesive foam.

* FlowLighting HID kits are for off-road and show use only.

6,000K vs. stock halogen
http://www.oznium.com/images/hid4.jpg

14,000K vs. stock halogen
http://www.oznium.com/images/hid5.jpg

8,000K vs. stock halogen
http://www.oznium.com/images/hid6.jpg

6,000K vs. stock halogen
http://www.oznium.com/images/hid7.jpg

Very durable, completely enclosed, waterproof ballast
http://www.oznium.com/images/hid.jpg

Do not touch the glass bulbs! Oils from your hand will ruin them. They are packed in a protective cover.
http://www.oznium.com/images/hid2.jpg

1 year warranty. FlowLighting is my brand. FlowLighting by Oznium.com. High quality just like the FlowLighting Blaze Underbody kit (http://www.oznium.com/blaze). These HIDs are made by Techone.

Right now, I've got the 6,000 and 8,000 K in stock because that seems to be most popular. Let me know if you need a different color.

Check it out here: http://www.oznium.com/hid

Any questions, I'm easy to get a hold of:

aim: philbish
cell: 925-683-1839
toll free: 800-245-8131
email: phil at oznium.com

[bu01]

will these work on any car, my bu preferably

[Oznium.com]

2001 Chevy Malibu needs size 9006 I think, so yea it will work

[geldartb]

out of all of them which ones wil produce the whitest light. and wouldnt be super bright.

[Oznium.com]

6000k is what I reccomend

[notsoaveragej0e]

would there be a possibility for a group buy?

[Oznium.com]

Sure I'm open to the idea. From my experience though, I don't care for GB's. The price is already lowww.

[LukeD]

I'd definately be in on a group buy if there is one.

[Oznium.com]

Ok what price do you reccomend? And how many people?

[GRANDamGT Man]

Hey guyz it looks real cool!

[Hodge]

Whats the reliability on this product? How is the warranty setup if a bulb blows? How long is the Warranty?

[Oznium.com]

Reliability is good. Not as good as Phillips though. 1 year warranty, if a bulb blows, call me up, send it back to me, and I send a new one.

[notsoaveragej0e]

will it fry my wiring harness?

[Oznium.com]

No it wont fry your wiring harness, the HIDs use less than regular bulbs

[notsoaveragej0e]

compared to stock output, how does HID compare? ( i would assume better, higher temp?)

[pontiacman99]

Hey I'm up for a group buy if we organize one I've always wanted a set of HID's

[Oznium.com]

You get more light output with lower color temp. So I'd reccomend 6,000K.

And yes, a lot more than stock!

[mr_eh]

We recommend that you keep your stock headlight bulbs handy so you can reinstall them when you drive your car on public roads. USE OF AFTER-MARKET HID HEADLIGHTS ON PUBLIC ROADS IS ILLEGAL. OZNIUM LLC SELLS HID HEADLIGHTS STRICTLY FOR USE AT CAR SHOWS OR ON NON-PUBLIC ROADS.

can i ask whats the purpose of having better light putput at car shows?
usually car shows are well lit and indoors... what the deally...

seriously tho - why are these so cheap?

[iceman]

It's a disclaimer ya simpleton.. Why ask the obvious?

[MSJHWT]

I'm interested, but since the light output dosen't seem low/crisp like a projector setup. Only reason I'm concerned, am I going to blind the f*** out of oncoming traffic and be hated by my fellow driver with the 6000k?

[mr_eh]

then i said "seriously tho" implying i wasn't serious with my previous statement

[Ajaxus]

nice catch...not really tho

[Woody87]

I'm interested, but since the light output dosen't seem low/crisp like a projector setup. Only reason I'm concerned, am I going to blind the f*** out of oncoming traffic and be hated by my fellow driver with the 6000k?

they're illegal for road use...so I wouldnt even bother spending the money on this kit. but yea, I'm sure you'd be blinding the hell out of oncoming traffic

[Graxall]

Not sure how they would be illegal though? regular HID's arent....lol Either way, im sure a cop isnt going to pull you over because he thinks your headlight bulbs are illegal...Im definately in on a grp buy myself...

[Ajaxus]

rich, a buddy of mine was pulled over for bright headlights about two years ago, it happens. he claimed ignorance and the cop let him slide, but it does happen. its a danger to other drivers, thats why its illegal. destroys their vision almost entirely.

[SectoidBob]

So, there's no lowbeam/hibeam control? Those are badass lookin but i don't want to be that ass blinding everybody with hibeams all the time/get a ticket for my lights.

Definately considering buying tho.

[02andahalfgt]

So, there's no lowbeam/hibeam control? Those are badass lookin but i don't want to be that ass blinding everybody with hibeams all the time/get a ticket for my lights.

Definately considering buying tho.

A ticket wouldn't be the biggest concern, good luck passing a PA inspection. I have to take out my tinted tails and swap them for stockers every year. And they almost failed me for those AutoDynasty headlights too.

[Graxall]

rich, a buddy of mine was pulled over for bright headlights about two years ago, it happens. he claimed ignorance and the cop let him slide, but it does happen. its a danger to other drivers, thats why its illegal. destroys their vision almost entirely.
yea i understand that 100% BUT HID's are legal and blind you as well...and i know my headlight bulbs i have right now are blinding and are 100% street legal...hell some stock lights hurt my dam eyes.

[sickness]

I've got these HIDs. That's my car he posted a picture of, the black Grand Am. I love them. They are aimed down, so they aren't as blinding. I'm toying with the idea of buying some projectors and getting a projector retrofit. There's a HID site that offers the service.

[pontiacman99]

So are there any brands of HID that are legal for on road use or not???

[LukeD]

Ok what price do you reccomend? And how many people?

How does $200 shipped each sound? Maybe we can get 5-10 people.

I wonder if there is a way to do a dual projector retrofit and put two hids per headlight so that when you switch to high beam it turns both on and low beam is only 1. That would be neat.

[notsoaveragej0e]

I wonder if there is a way to do a dual projector retrofit and put two hids per headlight so that when you switch to high beam it turns both on and low beam is only 1. That would be neat.


:stupid:

that would be teh sweetness!

[02andahalfgt]

So are there any brands of HID that are legal for on road use or not???

HIDs, projectors and angel eyes are only considered 'street legal' if they came on the car from the factory.

[LukeD]

I wonder if there is a way to do a dual projector retrofit and put two hids per headlight so that when you switch to high beam it turns both on and low beam is only 1. That would be neat.


:stupid:

that would be teh sweetness!

I'm actually thinking seriously about doing this to my Auto Dynasty lights. Good thing I have my stockers as standby. Maybe if any of the wiring gurus know how this can be done, they could toss some wisdom in.

[Graxall]

I'm actually thinking seriously about doing this to my Auto Dynasty lights. Good thing I have my stockers as standby. Maybe if any of the wiring gurus know how this can be done, they could toss some wisdom in.
why not do it to the headlights you didnt pay 250dollars for first this way if it works u know how to do it to the nicer ones ;)

[SC/TGrandAm]

All I have to say on this, Is Good Luck gettin 2 projectors into the stock housing 2 HID projectors, and then making it fit without grinding apart your header panel to nothing. It looks really easy but its not at all...Oh yea then the entre negatively charged headlights...these cars headlights were designed horribly when you break it down.

Now maybe people will believe me and Dave when we said that a retrofit is NOT easy.

You guy's idea is horrable. You cannot use HIDs for high beams ! Reason you can not turn hids on and off like filament bulbs unless you want to blow them out. If you want to test it out go right ahead. And you guys with HID's turn your lights off and then turn them back on within a few seconds and see what happens to the light- it turns red.

[Rba007]

I had initially made comments in this post, which quickly got deleted.



So, ill just say 'amen kyle'.

[LukeD]

Now maybe people will believe me and Dave when we said that a retrofit is NOT easy.

You guy's idea is horrable. You cannot use HIDs for high beams ! Reason you can not turn hids on and off like filament bulbs unless you want to blow them out. If you want to test it out go right ahead. And you guys with HID's turn your lights off and then turn them back on within a few seconds and see what happens to the light- it turns red.

ok well at least I know now. I never have had HIDs before so I didn't know you can't use them like filament bulbs. I just love the dual look some people have made for themselves on here and I was hoping it could somehow be done with projectors and HIDs. If not, I still want HIDs but just wish something could be done about keeping the high beam switch functional. I think I am eccentric that way in that it bugs me if something in my car doesn't work, even if I don't need it.

lol halfway joking but maybe some kind of single projector mechanism that tilts the projector up when you hit your high beam switch. Maybe somthing could be modified out of the cars that have the lights that automatically turn around corners, instead of left to right go up and down. lol that way you can still flash people that drive with their brights on.

[SC/TGrandAm]

ok well at least I know now. I never have had HIDs before so I didn't know you can't use them like filament bulbs. I just love the dual look some people have made for themselves on here and I was hoping it could somehow be done with projectors and HIDs. If not, I still want HIDs but just wish something could be done about keeping the high beam switch functional. I think I am eccentric that way in that it bugs me if something in my car doesn't work, even if I don't need it.

lol halfway joking but maybe some kind of single projector mechanism that tilts the projector up when you hit your high beam switch. Maybe somthing could be modified out of the cars that have the lights that automatically turn around corners, instead of left to right go up and down. lol that way you can still flash people that drive with their brights on.

That sounds like alot of dreaming...

Dual projector can be done... seen the cadillacs? dual projectors and most people see projectors and right off the bat go oh both HID's... no.. One is a HID and one is a filament projector. However, your not going to pull it off on a grand am unless you somehow mount your projectors almost fully inside the headlight housing and nothing protruding out the back. Thats your first obsticle and the other one is physically fitting 2 in the headlight.

Wiring on the stock headlighting wiring is about as worthless as tits on a boar and not easy by any means. Negative triggered ownz all.

[Psi]

Ummm ... SOLD!
I'll be checking if a group buy is arranged, but if not, end of the week ... :)

[Graxall]

i dont see a group buy comming. Problem with group buys are that alot of the time people back out when they say they want it. If its just backing out or they needed the moeny for something else, either way, the supplier gets stuck honoring a price he intended to be for say 15ppl and has to give it to say 5 ppl...either way 250dollars isnt bad at all for the product your getting...

[Psi]

I got jumpy.
Ordered

[Graxall]

I got jumpy.
Ordered
post pics as soon as you get them all set up and everything, which bulbs did you get with it?

[sickness]

250 dollars isn't a lot at all. Well worth it for the service you get with this guy. Top notch.

Psi - Installation is really easy. You'll have them in in 10 minutes tops. Make sure to take some before and after shots too.

[Graxall]

250 dollars isn't a lot at all. Well worth it for the service you get with this guy. Top notch.

Psi - Installation is really easy. You'll have them in in 10 minutes tops. Make sure to take some before and after shots too.
yup i actually had an indepth talk with the owner, if you need a fast install walkthrough in lamens terms.
1) plug the old harness(where the bulbs plug into) into the ballast
2)plug the HID bulbs into the other side of the ballast
3) pretty much done lol...only thing is that you gotta mount the ballast and the wire from the hid bubl to the ballast is a few feet long so its gonna be kinda clutery. I dont have the kit im getting it asap but i was thinkin there might be enough room between your body and the battery on the driver side there...kinda hard to expalin..the "east" side of the battery if ur looking at ur car from the front...

p.s - sick i think bkm85(or something like that) and Glisteningwhite should be in ur profile :-P

[Rba007]

If you guys are just wiring your ballast's to your stock 9007 plugs youre just asking for trouble. Im amazed that people buy these things while knowing just about nothing about them other than they are bright.

[Psi]

250 dollars isn't a lot at all. Well worth it for the service you get with this guy. Top notch.

Psi - Installation is really easy. You'll have them in in 10 minutes tops. Make sure to take some before and after shots too.
I have silver stars in right now.
I installed them and alligned them myself too. :woot:

Ok, so I'm getting 8ks :P


p.s - sick i think bkm85(or something like that) and Glisteningwhite should be in ur profile :-P
Why not me?
My car's sexeh

[Kdawg207]

If you guys are just wiring your ballast's to your stock 9007 plugs youre just asking for trouble. Im amazed that people buy these things while knowing just about nothing about them other than they are bright.


:stupid:

[iceman]

As far as the ability for the stock harnesses to handle the ballasts amperage wise, there's no issue there, I ran mine for years with no problems. Getting them to work correctly with our fun negative-triggered headilghts and DRLs .. enjoy that lol

[Rba007]

Very true.

Im skeptical of my stock harness due to my issue with the two sets of Mcchulloch hids i went through. In like 6 months.

[SC/TGrandAm]

Probably merely the Mcculloch brand= junk.

Yeah plugging the harness into the ballast and that is it is a giant laugh at whoever told you that. lol good one.

Don't even think about it without your DRL's disabled first at least and I hope you like SVS and a high beam indicator light on all the time on your dash...
I dont have either a SVS light or a high beam light on my dash and theres ways around that if you search.

[Hodge]

It would be cool-- I just wanna see before after pictures. My drls are taken care of and since it is a good warranty it might be worth it.

[sickness]

I don't have any problems with mine at all. They turn on when it gets darker out, and during the day when it's bright they are off. I love em. Just need some projectors and I'll be all set.

[Graxall]

Probably merely the Mcculloch brand= junk.

Yeah plugging the harness into the ballast and that is it is a giant laugh at whoever told you that. lol good one.

Don't even think about it without your DRL's disabled first at least and I hope you like SVS and a high beam indicator light on all the time on your dash...
I dont have either a SVS light or a high beam light on my dash and theres ways around that if you search.
THe owner of Oznium told me that......

[rfenn]

what you guys were talking about earlier, about the "dual hids" there is a company making them for 700 bucks, but appaerently it can be done

[SC/TGrandAm]

what you guys were talking about earlier, about the "dual hids" there is a company making them for 700 bucks, but appaerently it can be done

And who is this? :rx7:

[SC/TGrandAm]

THe owner of Oznium told me that......

Yeah and I don't recall the owner of Oznium owning a Grand Am that has got down and dirty with the headlights and/or either. When 3 people who have, tell you the opposite, who do you believe? your choice.



I don't have any problems with mine at all. They turn on when it gets darker out, and during the day when it's bright they are off. I love em. Just need some projectors and I'll be all set.

Well thats fine and dandy and all, but what your not realizing is the BCM is sending the headlight wiring a small current to power the DRL's. The ballasts are still getting that small current even though its not enough to turn them on and they do not like that small current. It's only a matter of time before they blow out.

[rfenn]

if you want to know who does the "dual hids" give me your email and i will let you know the website

[SC/TGrandAm]

hmm.. is it that secretive?

Let me take a wild guess.... is it A#E#D? Last I knew theirs are 700 for two halogen projectors (not HID at all), just because they are projectors don't mean they are HID. I can guarantee you for 700 they wont give you 2 sets of HID projectors and if they did it won't work anyways take my word on this im not HID stupid.

[Rba007]

I think its the company who we cant talk about here Kyle. I think they are doing dual projectors, but not dual hids. And if they are doing dual hids, hooray for them blowing the ballasts on the high beam ones all the time.

[Graxall]

Yeah and I don't recall the owner of Oznium owning a Grand Am that has got down and dirty with the headlights and/or either. When 3 people who have, tell you the opposite, who do you believe? your choice.





Well thats fine and dandy and all, but what your not realizing is the BCM is sending the headlight wiring a small current to power the DRL's. The ballasts are still getting that small current even though its not enough to turn them on and they do not like that small current. It's only a matter of time before they blow out.
Ok so now what are you saying will NOT make them blow? disabling DRL's?

[Oznium.com]

graxall, what exactly did I tell you?

[Graxall]

graxall, what exactly did I tell you?
Like i said above. Harness goes into ballast. bulb goes into other side of ballast..boom done..

[Rba007]

Harness as in the stock 9007 plug? (Hopefully not, or the 'boom done' part may come true).

[Graxall]

Harness as in the stock 9007 plug? (Hopefully not, or the 'boom done' part may come true).
ok well do you have these? you said you blew 2 sets of HID"s how? the way im saying? did you fix yours?how? ect...questions that needs answeres lol since Sc/t GA or w/e can only critisize, he cant help...

[Rba007]

That made no sense.

But im gonna try to decipher.

I dont know how i blew them. I know the ballasts were mounted well, protected from the elements and not allowed contact with water. I know i didnt touch the bulbs and they were treated well. They just stopped working. Both sets, went through two sets of Mcchullochs in 6 months. Not really any way to fix the things.

Im saying you want to get power from your battery. The stock harness isnt designed to put out the juice necessary to power HIDS on startup. Do a search, this has all been covered a gazillion times and I know the couple of us who know about the subject dont like having to constantly repeat ourselves when we are just trying to help you people. Which is also amusing, because when we give this advice, most people treat us like we dont know what we're talking about. Remember, I came up with the idea for a projector retro, SC/T got it done first, then i got it done. We both had the original DRL disabler kit which was a pain to wire up, and we are both VERY familiar with the GA headlight wiring and how it works. Take our advice or leave it, its not my money im spending on your lights.

[Rba007]

And yes, the mcchullochs that blew were wired to stock wiring. That was before I knew basically anything about our wiring. They blew even though I did have DRL's disabled at the time.

My retrofit HID's were wired to the battery and never gave me any trouble at all.

[Graxall]

ok so basically what your saying is to run the hid to the ballast then the ballast to power/switch and ground and ill be fine?
Im not saying you guys are wrong. im trying to get imput so i dont spend 250dollars on something thats gonna break..i appreciate it..I just dont reallyt like the fact of having to put my headlights on with a switch other than the stock thing...i hate it with my angeleyes atm too..

[Rba007]

Its easiest to use a seperate switch. But using relays and crap could be done with the stock switch. It was an absolute cakewalk with my grand prix, but GA's have the negative trigger which is a pita. Yea, you need power from the battery, a ground, and then youre on the right track to being ok. Then we just need to talk about this being some no-name odd kit...


Again, all of this could be found if you did a search for 'hid' or went over to hidplanet.com and looked around.

[Graxall]

Its easiest to use a seperate switch. But using relays and crap could be done with the stock switch. It was an absolute cakewalk with my grand prix, but GA's have the negative trigger which is a pita. Yea, you need power from the battery, a ground, and then youre on the right track to being ok. Then we just need to talk about this being some no-name odd kit...


Again, all of this could be found if you did a search for 'hid' or went over to hidplanet.com and looked around.
its not a no name kit..its the kit that the thread is made for lol..Ive heard about that too, the relay n all that..but im no wiring master so i dont know how to do that lol

[Rba007]

It basically is a no-name kit. Like ive said, many have had no problems at all with an aftermarket kit like this. But a LOT of people have as well, including myself. So ill cross my fingers for ya!

[sickness]

Day time running lights are the high beams, right? They are a whole different bulb/wire than the HID bulb hooks up to. So there shouldn't be a problem?

[Rba007]

Your car only has one bulb. It has two filaments, one for high, one for low beam.




If you didnt know that, you shouldnt be buying hids, let alone GASOLINE to put in your car.

[Graxall]

Your car only has one bulb. It has two filaments, one for high, one for low beam.




If you didnt know that, you shouldnt be buying hids, let alone GASOLINE to put in your car.
actually it has 2, ur turn signal :P

[Rba007]

Haha, well in that case there are four 3157, 194, 9007 then a 194...

[sickness]

Pretty sure I've got low beams and high beams, different bulbs. I can take some pictures if you want.

[Graxall]

Pretty sure I've got low beams and high beams, different bulbs. I can take some pictures if you want.
Hmm i dont think so man..have u ever taken apart yourheadlight? i have..your low beam and high beam are the same bulb but with diff power outputs( i think) the only other bulb is your turn signal..take pics if u somehow have 3 bulbs in ur headlights

[nbod]

So would this HID setup be easier in an Alero....with the separate hi/lo beams?

[Oznium.com]

tim aka sickness with a 98 grand am - has 9006 and 9005 bulbs

Yea in an alero with 2 bulbs, it should be quite simple

[Rba007]

Ahhhh, that explains it! i never look over at what people are driving.


Having seperate bulbs for low and hi make it a lot easier.

And just FYI, i was impressed with Oznium a while back, seems like he cares about his customer's well being and their rides.

[Psi]

And just FYI, i was impressed with Oznium a while back, seems like he cares about his customer's well being and their rides.
I agree with this.
He didn't have the lights in stock I selected so he called my house, got my cell number and called me.
And still shipped them out the same day.
I 'may' have them tonight, if not ... tomorrow :thumbs:

[Graxall]

I agree with this.
He didn't have the lights in stock I selected so he called my house, got my cell number and called me.
And still shipped them out the same day.
I 'may' have them tonight, if not ... tomorrow :thumbs:
niiice yea hes a good dude...the cathodes i ordered took 2 days to get here was nice. i installed them today. just gotta ru nthe wires tomm..ill get some pics asap..its gonna be quite custom...

[Oznium.com]

Thanks guys :cool:

The National Highway and Traffic Safety Administrations has reversed itself and is loosening the rules regarding replacement headlamps. According to SEMA, NHTSA changed a 2003 ruling that barred switching a vehicle's headlight technology.

This should open up the market for replacement headlamps using high-intensity discharge (HID) or energy-efficient LED headlights. Replacement headlights still have to meet the photometry requirements of the originals. What other unnecessary rules can we get rid of?

This was from the page here (http://blog.wired.com/cars/) at Autopia at wired.com.

Another link: http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20051101006398&newsLang=en


Way to go SEMA!

Consumers still need to be responsible with HID kits just as they are with nitrous, exhaust, loud stereos, TV's in view of the driver, racing equipment, firearms, knives, etc.

It is legal to sell all of these items, and for the NHTSA to have the power to stop people from selling HID kits doesn't make sense.

What if the consumer only uses them for off road and show use? What if they put them in the high beam slot and only use the high beams on back country roads where there are no other drivers?

It is legal to sell nitrous kits, although the user could be stupid, race on the freeway during rush hour and kill people.

[Graxall]

^^ agree with above
altho u need a license to have nitrous if im not mistaken..

[sickness]

Hmm i dont think so man..have u ever taken apart yourheadlight? i have..your low beam and high beam are the same bulb but with diff power outputs( i think) the only other bulb is your turn signal..take pics if u somehow have 3 bulbs in ur headlights

Hey man, I think I know what I'm talking about. It's my car for christ sake.

:scream:

[Ant]

Hmm i dont think so man..have u ever taken apart yourheadlight? i have..your low beam and high beam are the same bulb but with diff power outputs( i think) the only other bulb is your turn signal..take pics if u somehow have 3 bulbs in ur headlights

rich, he has a 98 GA.

[sickness]

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I'll let you count.

[Graxall]

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I'll let you count.

tim aka sickness with a 98 grand am - has 9006 and 9005 bulbs

Yea in an alero with 2 bulbs, it should be quite simple
yes we've established this..

[Psi]

*Sigh* My lights are STILL stuck in Windsor.
Hopefully they'll be passing the boarder soon enough!
I'm going to give UPS a call and see what's up.

[Graxall]

*Sigh* My lights are STILL stuck in Windsor.
Hopefully they'll be passing the boarder soon enough!
I'm going to give UPS a call and see what's up.
dam that sucks. how far is it?
i woulda got the express shipping cuz im impatient :P

[Psi]

Okay, they're expected to be delivered on thursday.
Wikkid ... I wont be home!!
Arg lol
Maybe I'll pick them up Friday night after school.

[Hodge]

post pics asap caues i wanna see the way they look and the output

[sickness]

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6000k on the left. Silverstars on the right.

[Rba007]

If you ever drive behind a silver grand prix with dark tinted windows, turn off the highway cause ill be wanting to slap you for blinding me.

[iceman]

He's taking the pic from within the beam pattern, of course there will be glare..

[notsoaveragej0e]

can you get matching fog lights?

[Graxall]

can you get matching fog lights?
If people are having trouble with headlights/harness ect..i dont think they dare to dabble in the foglights..

[sickness]

If you ever drive behind a silver grand prix with dark tinted windows, turn off the highway cause ill be wanting to slap you for blinding me.

Yeah...okay...:rolleyes:

[SC/TGrandAm]

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6000k on the left. Silverstars on the right.

hmm okay... I still think you people need to quit wasting your money and do a retrofit. Ive yet to see a conversion kit that looks that great and that doesn't blind everybody on the road. Theres a guy here with a 12000k ugly as sin kit that blinds me from 6 blocks away and when he gets close its unbearable. One of these days im just going to run into him full speed.

[sickness]

Well, a retrofit is next in line. I've got the HIDs. Now I need a set of headlights and some projectors. Heh...

[SC/TGrandAm]

The HID's you have now wont work in a set of projectors unless you somehow find an adapter.

HID projectors use D2S bulbs. Not to mention you'll need new ballasts also since the connectors on your bulbs are wrong for a projector. I think magyver got around it somehow he had a kit that he converted using projectors, but he had to splice on new connectors or something.

But without doing some fancy wiring and getting new bulbs its not that easy to get projectors and call it done.

[Rba007]

Youre gonna hafta mod the hids youve got. They arent just gonna plug into a projector.

And hopefully the ballasts last (i didnt see if this 'kit' has an integrated ignitor or not, but if they dont, hope the ignitors last for you too).

[Psi]

I'll have mine tonight.
50/50 shot I'll have them installed + pics.
We'll see.

[Graxall]

I'll have mine tonight.
50/50 shot I'll have them installed + pics.
We'll see.
Its not that hard to install, no wiring needed...

[Psi]

Its not that hard to install, no wiring needed...
Yup, I noticed that with what I was given.
I've installed one so far, the clamp (or whatever you want to call it) is completely broken on my drivers side (GO GM INSTALLERS!).
I'll be trying to get to some junk yards to get one tomorrow.
Pics should be up tomorrow night.

One thing though, where did anyone put the ballasts?
I can't really find a good place to tuck them away.

[iceman]

search, most of us have pics of where the ballasts are mounted.

[Psi]

search, most of us have pics of where the ballasts are mounted.
For anyone else that wants to know http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6681&highlight=ballasts

[Psi]

I've installed one so far, the clamp (or whatever you want to call it) is completely broken on my drivers side (GO GM INSTALLERS!).
Blah, I forgot how stupidly expensive those things are.
30$ canadian after taxes, AND GM BROKE IT *sighs*

My pics will be up tonight

[Psi]

This thread is useless without pics!
so ...

8k!

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/486000-486999/486187_46_full.jpg

[Psi]

#2
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/486000-486999/486187_48_full.jpg

[Graxall]

damn they look awsome. you just plugged them from harness to ballast and ballast to bulb right? keep me updated if you run into any problems like ppl are saying teh harness will have!

[notsoaveragej0e]

your highbeams say they are on too, or no?

[Kdawg207]

In case anyone cares...I have this kit...from Oznium....and they are killer....best HIDS I have owned....well known name or not...blah blah etc...

No regrets here..

PS...Mine look better...nice big suv housings :)

j/k...nice lookin here too

[Kdawg207]

damn they look awsome. you just plugged them from harness to ballast and ballast to bulb right? keep me updated if you run into any problems like ppl are saying teh harness will have!

plug and play....5 minute install....i have had Zero issues

[Graxall]

plug and play....5 minute install....i have had Zero issues
Have u read the rest of the post. Ppl like GrandAmSC/T or w/e say that it will fry the housing and all this crap..

[Kdawg207]

i respect everyone here...and i hope they all respect that the fact that i too know my sht....so i will leave it at that.

plus remember...i am not in the GA anymore...so I dont really have comments referring to use in a GA...

All i know is in the jeep....zero issues...love the kit hands down

[Graxall]

i respect everyone here...and i hope they all respect that the fact that i too know my sht....so i will leave it at that.

plus remember...i am not in the GA anymore...so I dont really have comments referring to use in a GA...

All i know is in the jeep....zero issues...love the kit hands down

Aw well i guess before i buy them ill have to make sure i have a "warranty" so that if it breaks or something i get new ones free :-P hah

[Kdawg207]

i think they come with a 1 yr warr

[Psi]

your highbeams say they are on too, or no?
Yup, I installed them that way.
I don't even notice the highbeam light since I have an AF gage.

[Hodge]

sweet, post some pics kdawg. How many people ahve been flashing their brights so far?

[Kdawg207]

sweet, post some pics kdawg. How many people ahve been flashing their brights so far?

None...not once....
and i drive more each day and night than most of the members here combined

pics maybe this weekend we'll see

[Graxall]

None...not once....
and i drive more each day and night than most of the members here combined

pics maybe this weekend we'll see
doubt that :-P i drive like a madman lol. I got my car july 04 with 15000mi. Its now Nov 05 and i have 48000mi lol...i drive like its my job

[Kdawg207]

it is my job...i have an 05 jeep...got it in april...thats six months...just under 36000

but anyway...lights have caused no issues of any kind

[Kdawg207]

Just a few pix of mine.....6000K...the pix do no justice actually


Sorry....horrible night photographer lol

[Ajaxus]

if those pics dont do them justice, then those things must be incredible! lmao

[Kdawg207]

i love em.....the pics take away some of the true color of them.....slightly more blue

[Ant]

doubt that :-P i drive like a madman lol. I got my car july 04 with 15000mi. Its now Nov 05 and i have 48000mi lol...i drive like its my job

ha, no way you drive more than Mike. he drives like its going out of style...a tank of gas each way or something, right?

[Kdawg207]

basically...give or take a tank a day...or day and change
good thing its all free right

anyway...night all

[2002GT]

Thanks for posting the pics KDawg... Wanna sell me the crossbars on the roof rack?!

[Psi]

I swear I need to get a new passenger housing.
I can't get the light to shine very well.
Always seems to have a large dark area directly in front.
I'm not completely certain if this is how it's 'supposed to be', but it's bloody annoying.

[Kdawg207]

Thanks for posting the pics KDawg... Wanna sell me the crossbars on the roof rack?!

i cant sorry

yurs get stolen?? i hear thats happening a lot

they are all over ebay too

[Ajaxus]

I swear I need to get a new passenger housing.
I can't get the light to shine very well.
Always seems to have a large dark area directly in front.
I'm not completely certain if this is how it's 'supposed to be', but it's bloody annoying.

are you sure they are aimed correctly? it sounds like it 'might' be aimed too high, so the light isnt quite hitting the road directly infront of you.

[Kdawg207]

I swear I need to get a new passenger housing.
I can't get the light to shine very well.
Always seems to have a large dark area directly in front.
I'm not completely certain if this is how it's 'supposed to be', but it's bloody annoying.


considering the age of those headlights...are they hazed up or blurred like some ga's have happen?
just a thought

[2002GT]

i cant sorry

yurs get stolen?? i hear thats happening a lot

they are all over ebay too

i didnt like them at first so i took them off and sold them lol and now i want them back :(

[Kdawg207]

http://search.ebay.com/Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-Roof-Rack-Cross_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQmaxre cordsreturnedZ300QQssPageNameZRC0021


ouch

[Psi]

considering the age of those headlights...are they hazed up or blurred like some ga's have happen?
just a thought
Might be, but it's more a black spot in the center of the passenger side light.

are you sure they are aimed correctly? it sounds like it 'might' be aimed too high, so the light isnt quite hitting the road directly infront of you.
Nah, they're not too high.
I haven't been high-beamed yet ... well except for one idiot in a corvette because I didn't have any lights on because it was only 5:45 pm, wasn't really dark, and I was 2 minutes from home.

[Woody87]

hmm, I may retract my previous statement about "not being worth it to buy this kit"...those pics look pretty awsome, I just got some halo fogs installed and I want an upgrade for the headlights.

[Kdawg207]

I love my set more each day...the color and quality has improved a bit since the pix were taken (first day installed)

i should get new pix up

[Woody87]

I'm going to replace my DRL's, and turn signals soon (all with LED's) and getting the amber overlays...I'll think about this HID kit when the time comes to order all the stuff.

[slipfreak2247]

tp go back to something previously said is this kit legal or not i don't know all the laws and crap floating around out there

[Rba007]

No.

[luniz024]

I have a question. My ride has projector headlights as well as a seperate high beam. Would I have a problem with that if I get the 6000k?

Edit, I guess Oznium doesn't have the H11 bulbs.

[Metallman56]

i havent gone through the 7 pages of crap to maybe get my question answerd so i will just ask it. what are the chances of getting pulled over with these? are they illeagle, i would assume so since on the website they say for "off road use only" which makes me nervous we have alot of a*shole cops around here. i dont want to have to take my headlights out on the side of the road one night. then get another ticket for driving without headlights.

[Graxall]

i havent gone through the 7 pages of crap to maybe get my question answerd so i will just ask it. what are the chances of getting pulled over with these? are they illeagle, i would assume so since on the website they say for "off road use only" which makes me nervous we have alot of a*shole cops around here. i dont want to have to take my headlights out on the side of the road one night. then get another ticket for driving without headlights.
slim to none

[Metallman56]

but are they illeagle? thats really all i want to know

[Rba007]

Yes. And its spelled 'Illegal'. Your spelling makes me think there is a sick bird flying around.

[notsoaveragej0e]

I shouldn't think you will be hassled, as long as they are properly aimed and not blinding on coming drviers. Something like that falls in the same catergory as covering your reflectors in the headlights- yes it is illegal, but there is a very small chance you will get writen up for it. To answer your question, any light that is not stock from the factory is illegal.

[notsoaveragej0e]

Yes. And its spelled 'Illegal'. Your spelling makes me think there is a sick bird flying around.

Damn, beat me. x2 on the bird thing lol .

[Metallman56]

ok thanks that was all i was wondering. sorry about the spelling. spell check doesnt work when i am at work, and i am a bit dislexic (sp) lol but seriously thanks

[Rba007]

Haha, no prob. Similar to what has already been said, your chances of getting stopped are slim. But if you are committing other violations, the probability of getting written up for the lights increases. Its just something that can easily be used against you should the need arise.

[Psi]

but are they illeagle? thats really all i want to know
Have you seen a BMW before ?
hehe.
Seriously, they can't say they're illegal if other vechicals are allowed on the road with HIDs.

[Rba007]

arg. do a search. They are illegal because the housings werent designed for them. They ARE illegal. I have the michigan motor vehicle code ( for a few different years), and i know they are in the entire U.S. Hell, they are illegal to sell in the US (check the DOT website, or hidplanet.com for more info).

Im going to strap rockets to my car, because if they are legal for NASA, they must be legal for me too!!

[iceman]

Forreal... OEM = legal. Aftermarket (as in putting HID capsules in any old housing) = not legal.

I highly doubt you will get pulled over just for HID's unless you have some ridiculously purple ones and your housings are aimed up in the trees.

[Metallman56]

^^ my dad has an s2000 with hids. i have always wondered about that. thanks for clearing it up guys.

[Oznium.com]

Rockets on your car are fine. No one will be able to catch you!

[Rba007]

Haha, good point.

Since he reminded me, oznium seems to be a great retailer to deal with. When i had issues with this kit initially (never owned it, just the idea of the thing) the owner contacted me and we discussed the situation. Seems to be a very stand-up guy to deal with.

[ryanbgb22]

In order to install my hid kit i cut the end off of the stock headlight connection. I then connected the ballast and highbeam light to these wires (using trial and error until i found a combination that would turn the ballast and high beams on at the correct time). I then had the problem with the SVS light due to not having any drl's. In order to solve this problem i cut the pcm wire for the drl's. After installing these, i concluded that there is no way to drive a 99-05 GA with stock lights and hids and not be extremely offensive to other drivers. I then took them back out and put stock bulbs back in. After buying auto dynasty lights, i put the hids back in because they dont have a bottom reflector and dont reflect the light at other drivers as bad. However, after having my hids back in for about a week I blew a ballast, and once again had to put stock bulbs back in. This is where I stand right now, I am extremely fed up with hids and wish i could have the $220 i wasted on the kit back.

[Ajaxus]

have you emailed phil with your problems yet?

[BadBlack00Ga]

You don't have to cut any wires for this kit. You can either plug it straight into the existing harness or wire them up to a switch if you want to use beefier wiring. So I don't see how or why you cut off your harness.

I've had this kit for almost 2 months now, and I've been highbeamed once. I do all my driving at night. Aim them properly and they will not bother other drivers.

I'm not 100% about this, but it could be possible you blew your ballast because you've got them wired to your highs. High's = 80w, lows = 60w stock, so your highbeams circuit will put out more current then your lows. (again, not 100% on this)

Could also be your bulb and not the ballast. You did take them out and put them back in several times. You might have touched the bulb.

[Kdawg207]

^ werd

No wiring with this kit....had mine - wow close to 10 months now - no highbeams - no issues other than loving it all day everyday lol

[gaowners32]

i'll be ordering mine what do you think about 14,000k on a ga? And im also getting the new black headlights off ebay will they stand up to the heat out put of the hids?

[luniz024]

14,000k imo would be too high. Not enought light for the road. I would stay around 4300 to 6000k.

[gaowners32]

Ok so i'll get the 8,000 k maybe then but i do have to disable the drls?

So my car is a 2004+ all i have to do is pull out fude #22 right?

[Mirage85]

Ok so i'll get the 8,000 k maybe then but i do have to disable the drls?

So my car is a 2004+ all i have to do is pull out fude #22 right?

Yes, the #22 relay in the fuse box under the hood.

8000k would be too blue for my tastes, but if you like them, go for them. It just bugs my eyes after awhile having everything in my field of view with a bluish tint to it.

6000k would be as high as I would go, nice and white, but still has a bluish tint.

[iceman]

Someone pass the rusty screwdriver

[Graxall]

Yes, the #22 relay in the fuse box under the hood.

8000k would be too blue for my tastes, but if you like them, go for them. It just bugs my eyes after awhile having everything in my field of view with a bluish tint to it.

6000k would be as high as I would go, nice and white, but still has a bluish tint.
The way his HID's work is they start up BRIGHT blue when u first turn them on then they power down a bit to true color..Look at my avatar. those are 8k's just as u start the car. Leme find my pics of the ouput after they are started...

heres some pics..
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showpost.php?p=757115&postcount=40

[gaowners32]

Someone pass the rusty screwdriver


umm ok?

[Mirage85]

The way his HID's work is they start up BRIGHT blue when u first turn them on then they power down a bit to true color..Look at my avatar. those are 8k's just as u start the car. Leme find my pics of the ouput after they are started...

heres some pics..
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showpost.php?p=757115&postcount=40


but there is still a slight tint of blue to it, is there not?

[Graxall]

but there is still a slight tint of blue to it, is there not?
Definately but light output is still amazing on the 8k's is what im trying to say.

[Mirage85]

Definately but light output is still amazing on the 8k's is what im trying to say.


im sure it is, what I was getting at is that there is a tint, and it would just drive my eyes crazy after awhile. Short drives it would be fine, but those night wher im on the road for 6hrs or so it would be insane, and well, my SLP drives me crazy on those trips too.... oh well.

[Graxall]

im sure it is, what I was getting at is that there is a tint, and it would just drive my eyes crazy after awhile. Short drives it would be fine, but those night wher im on the road for 6hrs or so it would be insane, and well, my SLP drives me crazy on those trips too.... oh well.
Its not liek your thinking. Your headlights have a blue tint when u look at them. Output is white on the ground but it doesnt light stuff up blue or anything..I get what your saying but its not as bad as u would think :)

[Mirage85]

Its not liek your thinking. Your headlights have a blue tint when u look at them. Output is white on the ground but it doesnt light stuff up blue or anything..I get what your saying but its not as bad as u would think :)

cool, well I guess I would have to see them in person to make a decision.... oh well....

[ryanbgb22]

so i still dont understand the high beam problem. What lights come on on the dash, svs and high beam. What are the ways to go about installing this kit and not having these lights.

[Graxall]

so i still dont understand the high beam problem. What lights come on on the dash, svs and high beam. What are the ways to go about installing this kit and not having these lights.
When you install them, using your stock harness, theres 3 "slots" where the original lightbulb would plug into the harness. The HID harness has only 2 wires that connect to the stock harness. The 3 "slots" are for High beams, regular, and svs. You have to make sure you plug them into the right slots. On the driver side theres 3 slots and 3 diff color wires. Orange/blue/red i beleive. IIRC you plug them into the orange and blue. On the passenger side theres orange and 2 blues. So your gonna have to trial and error into each of the blues. Hope this helps.

[iceman]

The 3 "slots" are for High beams, regular, and svs. You


:duh: :nope:

[Graxall]

:duh: :nope:
This is wat i was told. At least the 2 slots are regular and high beams..