Chevy Lumina SS.

[WOLF]

Why don't we get stuff like this. This stinks, sweet looking car too. Man, its even RWD with a 5.7L V-8.

http://www.gmarabia.com/chevrolet_cars/lumina/lumina_ss.htm

[TEAM_AED]

i have known about that car fo so long. A few years. Found it back when i had my lumina, I wish we would get **** like that.:rage:

[WOLF]

How much would it cost to import that thing?
Just wondering. They still make a nice un-bubble like Caprice over there too. But man I want that Lumina, why didn't they just restyle it like that instead of spending millions of dollars on a new product that is nothing like the car it was back in the day (Impala).

This is like what I was talking about earlier. How does GM expect to make huge profits and better quality cars when they have so damn many. Do like Nissian, Mitsu, Ford, Honda and Toyota and not make so many variations of cars. Just sell the same cars you buy here, and sell them everywhere with just slight mods. for each place its going. Everybody else does it. No wonder quality lags.

Still want that Lumina SS!:thumbs:

[Mike3800]

Originally posted by WOLF
Why don't we get stuff like this. http://www.gmarabia.com/chevrolet_cars/lumina/lumina_ss.htm

Cause apparently GM thinks Americans want second best and don't like performance but instead want slow and very expensive cars with automatics only.

Don't anyone start with the "emissons" BS, other car companies are building hot rods right now, forigen and domestic.

[Spoon]

Originally posted by Mike3800


Cause apparently GM thinks Americans want second best and don't like performance but instead want slow and very expensive cars with automatics only.

Don't anyone start with the "emissons" BS, other car companies are building hot rods right now, forigen and domestic. Mike... Mike........ The car is being imported. The Chevrolet that you are all refering to is nothing more thatn an Australian Holden. All of the vehicles imported to the M.E. are badged as Chevrolet. The new "Holden GTO" in one in the same. I look at them everyday at work and the issues are all real and do apply. The do not meet the US emission requirements as exported to the ME, which means they do have to be recertified, and they also do not meet our bumper reqirements. This also will require some work befor the vehicle, (the Holden GTO) can be sold domestically.

Hope this explains the situation. :thumbs:

Spoon

[Mike3800]

Originally posted by Spoon

Hope this explains the situation. :thumbs:

Spoon

Thanks for the explination. But I don't understand how Chevrolet can release the Z06 and not this exact car here. I can understand saftey, but I am still a little confused on the emissions thing.

:rage: Bring back the Camaro and Trans AM!! :rage:


:D

[00whitegagt]

Ya I found about it when I had my lumina to. Even tried contacting gm about it but the little F**** wouldnt answer or call me back and I wanted on So bad

[Mr98Pontiac]

My wife's dad is from egypt, we tried to import one about a year ago. They will let you bring it over, but you cant drive it due to emissions bull****. It would have been nice, thats for damn sure..

[Mike3800]

Originally posted by Mr98Pontiac
My wife's dad is from egypt, we tried to import one about a year ago. They will let you bring it over, but you cant drive it due to emissions bull****. It would have been nice, thats for damn sure..

I don't get the emissions laws then Or GM not deciding to MAKE that car here either. Holden schmolden import schmimport.. I'vs seen GM design some hot cars!

I guarangadamntee that a Yukon or Corvette Z06 pollutes more than the Lumina SS even without the emissions controls it probbably does not have on it.

Didn't they even give you the option to make it emissions legal?

[Spoon]

Originally posted by Mike3800


I don't get the emissions laws then Or GM not deciding to MAKE that car here either. Holden schmolden import schmimport.. I'vs seen GM design some hot cars!

I guarangadamntee that a Yukon or Corvette Z06 pollutes more than the Lumina SS even without the emissions controls it probbably does not have on it.

Didn't they even give you the option to make it emissions legal? There used to be a process for getting cars emissions certified, but then again there is the safety issues that still confront you. The bumpers and so on...........

[Mike3800]

Originally posted by Spoon
There used to be a process for getting cars emissions certified, but then again there is the safety issues that still confront you. The bumpers and so on...........

Ahhh... didn't think of/ remember that.

[VTECSiGAH8R]

There are a lot of factors, such as crash tests, body panels (as mentioned), gas tank location (has to be in front of rear axle in the US), and the cars have to be CARB ceritfied for the Cali tree huggers (I think cars need 4 catalytics <maybe smaller ones> or something like that now). The crash tests are definately the biggest hurdle in getting a car ceritified for the US. Motorex had to do all that crap to make skylines legal tho. Surprisingly, the car can stay as a right had drive car tho (if that is the case).

[Spoon]

Originally posted by VTECSiGAH8R
There are a lot of factors, such as crash tests, body panels (as mentioned), gas tank location (has to be in front of rear axle in the US), and the cars have to be CARB ceritfied for the Cali tree huggers (I think cars need 4 catalytics <maybe smaller ones> or something like that now). The crash tests are definately the biggest hurdle in getting a car ceritified for the US. Motorex had to do all that crap to make skylines legal tho. Surprisingly, the car can stay as a right had drive car tho (if that is the case). The cars are not RH drive, and there are no significant changes being made.

[Mike3800]

So why can't GM build and design a car like this here, like a less expensive GTO?

Trans Am has always been a little more expensive than a Camaro, why not make the GTO have a Chevy brother.. like make the Monte SS a real SS, not just putting the L67 in it like they should have when it was first introduced as a W body? Or bring back the name Chevelle?

[Spoon]

Originally posted by Mike3800
So why can't GM build and design a car like this here, like a less expensive GTO?

Trans Am has always been a little more expensive than a Camaro, why not make the GTO have a Chevy brother.. like make the Monte SS a real SS, not just putting the L67 in it like they should have when it was first introduced as a W body? Or bring back the name Chevelle? Stop and consider where this vehicle is manufactured. AUSTRALIA!!! No matter what you call it, no matter what the powertrain, as long as it is a true limited production, imported vehicle, the price will remain nearly where it is.

Why not produce more? These vehicles will be volume constrained for at least two years, and the issus around building it here in the near future.... well do we even need to go there?

[Mike3800]

Originally posted by Spoon
... and the issus around building it here in the near future.... well do we even need to go there?

Let's go there!

I don't know why they can't build them here. Honestly. I am sure there is a reason, but... :confused:

[Spoon]

Originally posted by Mike3800


Let's go there!

I don't know why they can't build them here. Honestly. I am sure there is a reason, but... :confused: Reason! There is no facility setup to build that vehicle. It would not happen over-night and the expense, business case, most-likely does not work.

[SilverGA2001]

Spoon can correct me here, but if GM was going to build one here eventually, wouldn't they be testing the waters with the imported models? If this thing were to flop for some reason, they wouldn't have invested the massive amounts of money into a Body Shop in North America. Right now, if it doesn't go well, they can just walk away from this it sounds like. Now if things went really well and they saw it'd be beneficial to build them here, they probably would consider that then, wouldn't they? I just see them as testing the waters right now. For 2 years, there won't be many, so if they can sell those well enough, maybe they'll see fit to up production. :)

[VTECSiGAH8R]

Originally posted by Spoon
The cars are not RH drive, and there are no significant changes being made.

Key phrase, "if that is the case," cuz I was speaking in general.

[Mike3800]

Originally posted by Spoon
Reason! There is no facility setup to build that vehicle. It would not happen over-night and the expense, business case, most-likely does not work.

Why not build it in the same place as the Corvette, just expand the facility a little.

[SilverGA2001]

Originally posted by Mike3800


Why not build it in the same place as the Corvette, just expand the facility a little.

The Corvette plant has already added a new line this year, for the upcoming Caddy roadster.

[WOLF]

The B.G. Ky plant is maxed out due to the addition of the Caddy roadster. But I couldn't pick a better car to build at the plant.

[Spoon]

Originally posted by Mike3800


Why not build it in the same place as the Corvette, just expand the facility a little. Completely different architecture, and the new Cadillac is going to be built in Bowling Green.

[Mike3800]

Originally posted by Spoon
Completely different architecture, and the new Cadillac is going to be built in Bowling Green.

Not to dis anyone but I am glad you take the time to answer questions and clear up bogus rumors/statements Spoon. Thanks.

Another one:

Not to be a pain but... does each platform of car need it's own plant? That seems a little in-efficient. Then again, my company has different "assembly lines" for different products that my company makes, then again cars I would think are pretty similar.

:confused:

Oh well.

[Spoon]

Originally posted by Mike3800


Not to dis anyone but I am glad you take the time to answer questions and clear up bogus rumors/statements Spoon. Thanks.

Another one:

Not to be a pain but... does each platform of car need it's own plant? That seems a little in-efficient. Then again, my company has different "assembly lines" for different products that my company makes, then again cars I would think are pretty similar.

:confused:

Oh well. If the vehicle are different enough, like plane the parts are different. There is required floor space for those parts as well as the equiptment to build them.