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O1GAGT
11-18-2005, 04:48 PM
Just wondered if anyone here is running the DHP 1.5 BIN on their car and if so how does it perform? If so have you made any major changes or minor tweeks to help in certain areas. I know it will vary from car to car, but I am just interested to see what you might have done.

I submitted a ticket last night and I got a response from the staff that they did not have a 1.5 BIN to send me so that it would be forwarded to Charles, so now it is a waiting game which is understandable.

LukeD
11-18-2005, 04:57 PM
I just recently loaded 1.5. It seems a little closer to stock than the 1.0 file. Maybe it's cause I just put it in though so it needs to learn my driving habits. Also I am finishing off my midgrade tank so once I put in premium I'll see how it does.

Did you get PowerTuner version 1.1.9E yet? It was just released this week and fixes some things and also lets you do caase learns.

O1GAGT
11-18-2005, 05:23 PM
I just recently loaded 1.5. It seems a little closer to stock than the 1.0 file. Maybe it's cause I just put it in though so it needs to learn my driving habits. Also I am finishing off my midgrade tank so once I put in premium I'll see how it does.

Did you get PowerTuner version 1.1.9E yet? It was just released this week and fixes some things and also lets you do caase learns.

Yeah, I am new to everything so I just started last night. I have been studying up and downloaded 1.1.9E the other night.

I think I am going to fill up with premium tonight and hope they can get me the 1.5by tuesday. I will go out tonight and get some scans and attempt to make sense of them, but again I am just learning so it will take me some time to get comfortable with everything, but I am having fun with it so I guess that is all that matters for now.

atc3434
11-18-2005, 06:02 PM
I would hope they got the fueling closer to where it needs to be than the 1.0. I know mine runs pretty darn rich, defintely leaving a bit on the table.

O1GAGT
11-18-2005, 06:38 PM
I would hope they got the fueling closer to where it needs to be than the 1.0. I know mine runs pretty darn rich, defintely leaving a bit on the table.

I should be getting a wideband O2 setup for christmas so I will see how everything looks.

O1GAGT
11-20-2005, 11:05 AM
I got my DHP 1.5 Bin file today, and did a full write. Drove around and it seems to be running pretty good,and the car is full of premium fuel.

**Update**

It appears at full throttle I am gettin KR and running Rich, so I will address the issue in time. I have time over Thanksgiving so I will see what I can do to lean it out a little.

Germ
11-24-2005, 08:46 AM
the 1.5 .bin files are NOT performance or tuned files

they are basically stock files with a few tweeks that charles likes and then its sent to you. also the 1.5 is different than the 1.0 since the 1.0 is solely owned and used by DHP, the 1.5 code is what the customers use for the powertuner.

also with the 1.5 code, DHP is able to scan a PCM that is coded and can determine if its a code DHP put on the PCM or if someone loaded a pcm and CLAIMED it was a DHP pcm when its really not. its like a security check for DHP so someone that has a powertuner cannot sell pcm's that are the same code as the DHP 1.0 code, so DHP wont be held responsible for ass hats that try to make some money by selling PCM's

LukeD
11-24-2005, 11:55 AM
What would one have to change to essentially make the 1.5 file contain the same settings as the 1.0. 1.0 is "tuned for intake and exhaust." Is that the same with 1.5? If not I'd want it to be.

AaronGTR
11-24-2005, 03:41 PM
What would one have to change to essentially make the 1.5 file contain the same settings as the 1.0. 1.0 is "tuned for intake and exhaust." Is that the same with 1.5? If not I'd want it to be.


Mostly likely even if someone knew (they'd have to have both programs to see the diff) they wouldn't be allowed to tell you. That's sorta DHP's property ya know. You can't just use their settings from their basic pcm upgrade. In reality though, the generic 1.0 program is designed with compromises to make it safe and practical for a wide range of people who will be buying it.

Every car responds slightly different and every persons tuning needs are different. Custom tuning is really the way to go, and settings you find for your car that you like best might not be the same as the DHP 1.0. You just have to start tuning yourself. Make small changes and scan the car often to see how it reacts. Follow the tuning guide and that will give you an idea of where to start.

LukeD
11-24-2005, 05:47 PM
Mostly likely even if someone knew (they'd have to have both programs to see the diff) they wouldn't be allowed to tell you. That's sorta DHP's property ya know. You can't just use their settings from their basic pcm upgrade. In reality though, the generic 1.0 program is designed with compromises to make it safe and practical for a wide range of people who will be buying it.

Every car responds slightly different and every persons tuning needs are different. Custom tuning is really the way to go, and settings you find for your car that you like best might not be the same as the DHP 1.0. You just have to start tuning yourself. Make small changes and scan the car often to see how it reacts. Follow the tuning guide and that will give you an idea of where to start.

Cool thanks for the advice. I saw your post over on gmv6pcm about you getting your wideband up and running. The PT I bought has the spot for wideband hookup too. Would I just need a wideband controller with a sensor? Any good places to get these?

Germ
11-24-2005, 08:00 PM
you needed to purchase that option in order for it to work on the interface.


and the coding for the inputs are within the interface, if you did not order them, they are not "active" but they are there because its cheaper for DHP to do all the interfaces the same rather than have 2 different cases, 2 different boards, etc....

LukeD
11-25-2005, 12:00 AM
Yeah I bought mine from ImpetuousRacer and from what he told me, his was the $500 model. I assume that was the one with the wideband coding.

xonelith
11-25-2005, 06:04 PM
Would I just need a wideband controller with a sensor? Any good places to get these?

The wideband I bought (actually referred to as a Lambda cable & sensor) is the Innovate Motorsports LC-1. Installing it this weekend. I think it's around 200US with the sensor.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/index.html

AaronGTR
11-25-2005, 06:57 PM
you needed to purchase that option in order for it to work on the interface.


and the coding for the inputs are within the interface, if you did not order them, they are not "active" but they are there because its cheaper for DHP to do all the interfaces the same rather than have 2 different cases, 2 different boards, etc....



I ordered the standard one from ZZP and my ports work... cost was $431.79 shipped.



Heck when I ordered it I didn't even know what the AD ports where for. You can't find any info on them unless you're on the PT forums which you can't get on until you buy a PT. I didn't know I could log my wideband on the PT until I got on the forums. I thought I was going to have to log it seperately. Either they screwed up and I got lucky, or the $100 upgrade is BS... don't know which, but I definitely recommend having the AD ports functional.

GTPguy99
11-25-2005, 07:17 PM
I asked Charles about this because I bought mine used and it had the outputs on the box and he said sometimes he is just nice when he sends them out. So I guess you bought yours on one of his good days :)

Maybe you can tell me since this thing has the ability to read the wideband what exactly do I have to get to use this? (ie: just the sensor)

Germ
11-25-2005, 07:18 PM
i have found that out as well aaron, i was informed that they must be turned on in order to work but a few that i have sent out did work, so i guess its a roll of the dice.

AaronGTR
11-26-2005, 05:57 PM
I asked Charles about this because I bought mine used and it had the outputs on the box and he said sometimes he is just nice when he sends them out. So I guess you bought yours on one of his good days :)

Maybe you can tell me since this thing has the ability to read the wideband what exactly do I have to get to use this? (ie: just the sensor)


You need a wideband control unit that has an analog output. I know both the LC-1 and LM-1 from innovate motorsports have them, not sure about other brands. Basically you hook the output from the wideband controller to the AD ports (channel 1 and ground), then you program the voltage range and corresponding A/F ratio you want the output to use into the WB controller. Then in the PT when scanning you select the AD1 input for logging, open a gauge for it, go into gauge properties and enter an equation to set it up to read the same range as the output from the WB.