Jaketuff and his new 2.4" pulley..........

[SPAZ]

Installed and ready to go :thumbs:. Friday night I did the istall on his car, and even with the emmissions pumped having to be removed, and also having to SHIM his pulley ( Don't think because it's a direct fit, that it doesn't have to be alined ) it took no more than a half hr. for me to do.

Patrick will post the picks later, but here are the list of tool you need.

1) A strap wrench to hold the pulley from moving

2) A 13/16 socket or it Metric equevilent / ratchet of course, or a custiom welded socket wrench by SPAZ

3) A tensioner tool to release belt pressure, there is no need to fully remove the belt

4) Never Seez, for the S/C shaft, this makes install a breeze, or atleast simple

5) Locktight to put on the S/C nut, after it has been shimmed and dry fitted, and checked for proper belt allinement

6) A small flat file incase of metal burs, or a really tight pulley fit. Remember these are keyway pulleys they are much kinder to work with than press fit pulleys.

7) Puller , Well i use a 2 arm gear puller, somepeople have a problem with this, but if you saw how simple it was to do you wouldn't think twice

8) Shim, your shim has to be a tight fit on the shaft, so it is nessesary to remove the keyway. This should be done with a magnetic screwdriver and extrem caution, because if you lose it your F*CKED !!!! .I lost my once for over an hour, but i also have spare ones in my garage. Belt allinement is Very Very important !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9) Installing the pulley you should always grease you shaft first, ( with Never Seez)then slide it slowly. Then you take both hands and you push really hard. After that you grab your nut, grease that up to (with locktight) and twist it on as far as you can. Grab your strap wrench and hold on to your pulley. Take your ratchet and tighten it up as hard as you can, but don't use a breaker bar, because you don't want to bust a nut
:D , you want this install to last and last. You can call Magnuson to see what the foot pounds are , for you torque wrench nerds, but i kinda have a feel for this nut, cause i'm always playing with it.


***** Jaketuff Post your pictures*****

Yes we tried it out, and Pat has globs of Low End Torque Back, it moves great.

??????? Can he beat the SPAZ's car without juice.........No :confused:, but i have changed a few since the Picnic.

Lastnight Pat took a picture of me and him Testing when i hit the juice ( hopefully before i over revved it :vomit: ) yes even the SPAZ can have a bad night........Later dudes !!!!!!!!!!!!

[SilverGA2001]

Originally posted by SPAZ
you should always grease you shaft first

Gettin kind of personal there SPAZ. Usually though, I let the girl do that. lol

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by SPAZ
After that you grab your nut, grease that up to


wow you do a COMPLETE lube job before you go to work

:D thanks for all of the hard work and effort put into this even though it sounded like you were giving advice for OTHER procedures. ;)

[jaketuff]

Here you go, pics of the "Master" and "Patman" in action...

1. The set of tools, the most expensive being the Tensioner Adjuster. The rest are easily had at a Sears.

2. The car Doctor, Wayne proceeds to implement maximum protection in the engine bay. Mask supplied by Melissa, a wide assortment of colors are available. The mask is key for a certain doing work on a certain toddler's exhuast system. The gloves are "Ultra Thins." Adjustment of the Tensioner is underway.

3. Spaz breaks my er, pulley nut. Also, notice the tight grip from the strap wrench. That holds the pulley in place while you loosen the nut. Also the Tensioner Adjuster is in place, the belt is off the pulley and squeezed in b/w the shaft and engine.

4. Spaz deftly places the Gear Puller over the Pulley.

5. Spaz forces the pulley from the shaft easily with a few turns of the Gear Puller. This way the pulley comes off evenly across the shaft and you are not jerking the shaft so hard that you pop a seal on the bearing.

6. Replacing the pulley now. ALWAYs Lube her up. And the Keyway can be lost so take care here.

7. All greased up and ready to fill the Pulley...

8. Here is the Pulley fully on, notice the VERY small size. Also, here is SPAZ' smashed Tensioner. Smashed because of the belt being just a little bit too long, and SPAZ just has **** poor look with the tensioner.

JOUT

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[jaketuff]

Originally posted by SPAZ

Yes we tried it out, and Pat has globs of Low End Torque Back, it moves great.[/b]

Beware of the lean condition. I dynoed today at Englishtown. I did my A/F Ratio, the dyno crew inserted a sensor into the end of the Borla. It showed a VERY lean condition. See my other Post, "Small Pulley Means Running Lean."


??????? Can he beat the SPAZ's car without juice.........No :confused:, but i have changed a few since the Picnic.

Apparently the Milford Skunkworks has been running again, and not even I know the inside scoop on these little tricks SPAZ has thrown into his mill!!!:eek:


Lastnight Pat took a picture of me and him Testing when i hit the juice ( hopefully before i over revved it :vomit: ) yes even the SPAZ can have a bad night........Later dudes !!!!!!!!!!!! [/B]

Yes that is right, the Master was obviously intimidated by my unprecedented torque, and I believe that it was hard for him to manage his shifts and the NOS after he SHOT his pants :huh: when he saw me wrestling the torque steer beside him!!!!:wow:

JOUT

[ViperGTSR]

hmm I dont know whether to feel violated or good but it looked fun!:D Nice work fellas!

[Joshuaalpha]

wtf is a shim????????

[AaronGAGT]

Wow. Step 9 was worded nicely lol I got a laugh outta it.

A shim is that part on your leg betw. your ankle and knee :)

[Joshuaalpha]

uh huh , i looked it up lol

[MetaGTP1]

WOW, talk about a 'Resurrection'. lol

[Joshuaalpha]

yah it's called me searching for old stuff lol

Joshuaalpha

[IrateSpeed6]

too many references to greased shafts and nuts :vomit:

but good jo :vomit:

...sorry... congrats guys :vomit:

ugh - I can't stop... :nono:

[edit] I posted up thinking you guys did this again... I thought the shaft references sounded familiar. Pat: you're a flaming homo :slayer

[Schweppe23]

Pat, are you still running the 2.4? Hows it treating you? Any knock and what are your iats? What size did you have prior?

[jaketuff]

Pat,

I am back to the stocker, which I had b4, 2.8" size. I swapped back and forth several times, and have left the 2.8 on for MPG, and for less wear and tear as I commute with car.

The DHP and the 2.5" pulley that I had been using gave me about 4 tenths in the quarter mile.;)

Pat

[H.O. Driver]

Beware of the lean condition. I dynoed today at Englishtown. I did my A/F Ratio, the dyno crew inserted a sensor into the end of the Borla. It showed a VERY lean condition. See my other Post, "Small Pulley Means Running Lean."
JOUT
What numbers did you see on the dyno, I am curious to see what kind of torque that thing is making. Are you switching to a smaller belt with the smaller pulley or letting the tensioner pick up that slack?

Congrats on the new pulley, hopefully you will make the 13s with just the M62. Hopefully you can start dumping in some more fuel to mix with all that air you are moving. How much psi did you see with the 2.4"?

[kubiache]

^ Hey Timmy...is that slow internet affecting your brain? Look at the orignal post date. lol

[H.O. Driver]

^ Hey Timmy...is that slow internet affecting your brain? Look at the orignal post date. lol
Holy old post, didn't even see that, never mind on all the new pulley hype, when are you going to go smaller? :D I am still kind of courious on what it made on the dyno and how much psi he is seeing, if it was posted somewhere else, then I should find it. lol

[jaketuff]

About 10psi of boost with that pulley, maybe 11psi. I went from a 14.8 to a 14.3 with the DHP chip and a 2.5" pulley. So w/the 2.4" I maybe would have gained another psi or 1.5, and maybe a half a tenth in the 1/4???

I estimate (accurately) to have about 265-270HP w/the 14.3 ET setup.

Pat

[AMRAAM4]

About 10psi of boost with that pulley, maybe 11psi. I went from a 14.8 to a 14.3 with the DHP chip and a 2.5" pulley. So w/the 2.4" I maybe would have gained another psi or 1.5, and maybe a half a tenth in the 1/4???

I estimate (accurately) to have about 265-270HP w/the 14.3 ET setup.

Pat
But you can't come close to beating the God of Grand Ams, phantom505!!

Lay off the man mayonaisse finance boy!

[LukeD]

bringing this topic back from the dead.... again. Anyone know if it would cost less to pay a shop to do the swap than it would be to buy those specialty tools?

[iceman]

harbor freight

[MetaGTP1]

bringing this topic back from the dead.... again. Anyone know if it would cost less to pay a shop to do the swap than it would be to buy those specialty tools?You could do the pulley yourself in 30 mins. All you need is a gear puller, a strap wrench and a socket wrench(15 mm socket for the nut, I think). You need a serpentine belt tool also. Where are buying the smaller pulley from? If you buy the proper pulley, you don't have to add a shim to it.

[RAZE]

when you swap pulleys, you better know what you're doing or you could bend/break the bearings.

[LukeD]

You could do the pulley yourself in 30 mins. All you need is a gear puller, a strap wrench and a socket wrench(15 mm socket for the nut, I think). You need a serpentine belt tool also. Where are buying the smaller pulley from? If you buy the proper pulley, you don't have to add a shim to it.

I bought the 2.2 pulley from Pulley Boys. It was the one Aaron told me to get. I need to put a 1/16" thick washer on it. I'm not sure if there are any official 2.2 pulleys for the M62 is there?

when you swap pulleys, you better know what you're doing or you could bend/break the bearings.

Yeah that's what I worry about. I think a shop might charge $50 for a half hour of work but at least I'd have the peace of mind that it's being done right (hopefully).

[MetaGTP1]

I bought the 2.2 pulley from Pulley Boys. It was the one Aaron told me to get. I need to put a 1/16" thick washer on it. I'm not sure if there are any official 2.2 pulleys for the M62 is there?
.There is a pulley that you don't need a washer for. I did comparison testing for Pulley Boys. Pulley Boys found that the Series 1 SC pulley fits and aligns perfectly without a washer.

[MetaGTP1]

Yeah that's what I worry about. I think a shop might charge $50 for a half hour of work but at least I'd have the peace of mind that it's being done right (hopefully).Make sure the shop uses a gear puller to remove the pulley. If a hammer is used to remove the SC pulley, there is a good chance your bearing seal could be damaged. Then you would be screwed.

[IrateSpeed6]

What kind of neanderthal would use a hammer to remove a pulley?

[MetaGTP1]

What kind of neanderthal would use a hammer to remove a pulley?Trust me, they are out there!