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methos
04-06-2006, 09:01 PM
so since the past two weeks, ive noticed that my steering wheel has been shaking when i get up to 70mph. i thought it might be alignment or something with the suspension. i didnt think it could be the tires since i just got new rims and new tires at the end of last summer. well tonite, my front right tire blew doing about 65mph. and realized that the inside of the tire had completely worn away. checked the other front tire...its doing the exact same thing. anyone know what caused this??

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Ajaxus
04-06-2006, 09:17 PM
whoa, what tires/rims did you get put on there?

02andahalfgt
04-06-2006, 09:22 PM
It's either rubbing somewhere or your camber is waaaaaaay off. It's a consistant wear mark though so I'd suspect rubbing.

methos
04-06-2006, 09:54 PM
i got chrome 077s 18s. and nankang tires

Mike Jung
04-07-2006, 04:32 AM
i got chrome 077s 18s. and nankang tires
What size of tires ?

Lab Rat
04-07-2006, 05:01 AM
I just got a set of Fusions on my SE. I had changed to 16 inch wheels and wanted to get big tires. The guy said 225/50 16's was the largest size cause they had to replace some 225/60 on an Alero cause it was digging into the strut spring base plate. It had dug a grove about 1/2 inch wide. Looks about the same as your problem (altho it's really hard to see well from those pics). Sorry to see that. I would go back where you got them and ask them WTF, don't you check for fitment before you sell tires?

99GAGTX
04-07-2006, 07:41 AM
I was just going to suggest the same thing. Obviously your tires are rubbing inside the wheel well.

A local tire shop told me that the largest size they recommend installing on a 99+ GA, without modifying the car somehow, is 235/45R17 or 235/40R17. Anything larger than that without modding, is risky.

But they like to play it safe. And where's the fun in that?:D

Slim
04-07-2006, 07:50 AM
Who damn... Yeah, the tires are definitely rubbing on the inside edge. Most likely on the strut somwhere. Tire are probably too wide. As other have asked, what width tire did you go with?

Exodus
04-07-2006, 07:53 AM
I concer w/ the others. Definitely rubbing going on there, same happened to me.

coupe
04-07-2006, 08:32 AM
Well we need to know what size tires you are runing.
These are the only things i can think of.
Tires are too big
Camber is way off (dont know how)
Need an alignment asap (doubt it since its both sides)

methos
04-07-2006, 12:45 PM
the tires are 225/40R18

coupe
04-07-2006, 12:48 PM
the tires are 225/40R18

Well that dont make any sense then.
I dont know where to even start with this one.

methos
04-07-2006, 12:56 PM
i took these back in january

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coupe
04-07-2006, 01:02 PM
Im guessing you need an alignment.

myneedforspeed
04-07-2006, 06:51 PM
i suggest an alignment and getting your tire pressure checked...make sure you are running them at a safe PSI and it should be ok...

notsoaveragej0e
04-07-2006, 07:13 PM
Any rim damage?

methos
04-07-2006, 09:25 PM
Any rim damage?
i hope not. when it blew...i didnt really even know til i noticed i was having to hold the steering wheel at an angle to keep it straight

lone_wolf025
04-07-2006, 10:06 PM
I don't really know enough to speculate, but I can tell you that if the camber was THAT far off it should've been noticable, plus the tires don't have the look of camber wear. Camber bad enough to wear that much tire would wear across the tire. I'm inclined to concur with others by saying it had to be rubbing. Check the wheel well and struts to see if any spots look suspicious then go from there. Also, not to question your knowledge or anything, I'd double check the rim specs just to be sure.

methos
04-08-2006, 09:30 PM
my dad says its rubbing against the strut mount? has anyone else had this problem with the 18" 077s??

nascarnate326
04-08-2006, 10:05 PM
Holy ****, those tires are expensive. Deff rubbing or air pressure was wayyyy to low, and i dobt that. How many miles did you get on the tires since they have been on there. Do you have stock suspension?

CoopGT
04-09-2006, 01:42 PM
My money would be on rubbing the lower spring seats. Could be the wheel off set was way off .

coupe
04-10-2006, 05:06 AM
my dad says its rubbing against the strut mount? has anyone else had this problem with the 18" 077s??

You are the only one i have ever heard of

Mendoza
04-10-2006, 07:08 AM
I would look into a better tire nankang isn't exactly what i would call good rubber.
Look into some dunlop dizzeras on tire rack. I would also go with a 235/35/18 if i was you to prevent the strut from rubbing on the inner tire. It really does make no sense though i run 245/35/19 on my car and have never had a problem with my tires rubbing the strut although they are damn close probley within an 1/8th of an inch.

tenspeed
04-10-2006, 09:08 AM
It really does make no sense though i run 245/35/19 on my car and have never had a problem with my tires rubbing the strut although they are damn close probley within an 1/8th of an inch.

Nobody has mentioned offset. Offset moves the rim in and out of the wheel well assuming that the center stays the same. It doesn't matter what inch wheels you have, if you don't have enough positive offset, you'll rub the bottom of the spring mount.

I think my wheels are +38mm.

coupe
04-10-2006, 09:15 AM
Since they are 077's im assuming he has the right offset.

GaGTuned
04-10-2006, 09:30 AM
i think it was your air pressure being to low, it happened to me on the factory tires, I now have 245/40/18 and they do not run anywhere on the ga

tenspeed
04-10-2006, 09:49 AM
Since they are 077's im assuming he has the right offset.


Are all 077's made with the same offset?

It is certain that something is rubbing the inside of the tire. The only thing that it could be is where the strut tube meets the spring plate. The correct sized tire will be below the spring plate. The correct offset will move the tire off the strut tube.

It should be easy to see when the tire is removed. Look for the bare metal on the strut assembly.

MMGT1
04-10-2006, 01:57 PM
How wide is that tire?? Looks like the strut lower took it out. Are the others doing the same thing????

methos
04-10-2006, 02:10 PM
my dad says its rubbing on the lower strut section. my other front tire is doing the same thing. so he took it off and drove it home on two spares...lol

Mike Jung
04-10-2006, 04:12 PM
Are all 077's made with the same offset?...
http://www.eaglewheels.com/077.htm

16" wheels are +43mm offset

17" & 18" wheels are +38mm offset