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JoeyWeebs
11-15-2006, 07:23 AM
Hi folks, I've got a 2004 Grand Am SE1 with the 3.4.

I recently started hearing a creaking or squaking noise coming from the front end (and sometimes less noticably from the rear) when I'm going over bumps. It's more pronounced when going over speed bumps, and I think its a little more pronounced when turning. I looked through the TSB's and found these two:

#01-03-08-003A Squawk Noise From Front and/or Rear Suspension (Lubricate Stabilizer Bushings) - (Feb 5, 2002)
#99-03-08-004 Front/Rear Stabilizer Shaft Squawk/Squeak Noise (Replace Frt/Rear Bushings) - (Jul 28, 1999)

However, after investigating them a little, I think they're both only for up to the 2002 Grand Am's. Would there be any difference in the suspension on my 2004? Does it still have similar stabilizer bushings? I did take the car to the dealer last week, as it's still under warranty (about 32k miles) and they blamed it on my amp power cable....bah

It's certainly not my amp cable, and my suspension is stock.

Any thoughts?

pyro
11-15-2006, 07:29 AM
yea it should be the same thing...i wish i had my car when it was in warranty.

lone_wolf025
11-15-2006, 04:00 PM
I'm about ready to bring my car in for the same issue. I have a creaking from the rear suspension whenever hitting a bump or especially over a speed bump. I'm sick of hearing it all the time...

stangdude
11-15-2006, 06:41 PM
Mine did the same thing. Would you describe it as a creak or rattle? If it is a creak, the front sway bar link bushings are bad. When mine went bad, I told them what the noise was and the service manager knew exactly what was wrong. She said Grand Ams are well known for that. If it is a rattle, then it is a strut mount, also a well known problem in Grand Ams. If it's under warrenty then I wouldn't worry about it, just keep taking it back until it's fixed right.

tommy00gt1
11-16-2006, 09:17 AM
My 2000 GT1 did the same thing, particularly when turning into a driveway or entrance with a slight curbing.... it would make that creaking sound. So I had the swaybar bushings replaced under warranty and it helped a lot; but not totally eliminated it.
I'm gonna bring it in again and have those strut mounts looked at. Seems to be a very common problem ( the creaking noises, I mean..) .

Drives me nuts too !!!

timberwoof
11-16-2006, 10:55 AM
"So what does it sound like"
"Well it sounds like a RRAAAAAHHHHHHH, then a CADUNK CADUNK CADUNK, then into a SSCCRREEEEEEEECH"
"Hmm Interesting."
"Can you fix it?"
"Don't know I'm just the janitor, let me get bob. Hey Bob!!! Come listen to this idiot!!"

canadian_racer
11-17-2006, 06:58 AM
I had a creaking on my car when I replaced the front pads I put in the new shims, and used lots of ez glide on the back of the pads and on the sliders and that stopped it completely

timberwoof
11-17-2006, 11:06 AM
AWE LUBE, it makes the world go in and out with ease.

dan55678
11-20-2006, 12:36 AM
im sure everyone has had creaks and rattles of somesort on our ga's, after all, they are cars.... but I dont know if this will help you or not but I bought my ga in march 06 after it sat on a dealers lot for a year, immediate creaking occured. Dealer said it was the front strut assemblies and they replaced both for free, voila, no more creaking.. my creaking was also going into/out of driveways around turns and bumps.. i was just thinking this could be your problem just mine was worse cuz it sat for so long..

preed4962
11-22-2006, 01:52 PM
Subject: Rattle/Creak/Popping Type Noise from Front of Vehicle When Turning (Replace Both Front Stabilizer Shaft Insulator Brackets) #02-03-08-008B - (08/18/2006)



Models: 2002-2005 Chevrolet Cavalier

2002-2004 Oldsmobile Alero

2002-2005 Pontiac Grand Am, Sunfire

with FE1, FE2 or FE3 Suspension




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This bulletin is being revised to include FE3 suspension. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-03-08-008A (Section 03 - Suspension).


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Condition
Some customers may comment on a rattle/creak/popping type noise coming from the front of the vehicle when turning the steering wheel. This noise can typically be duplicated with a short drive on uneven road surfaces, then turning the vehicle left or right into a 90 degree turn.

Cause
This condition may be caused by the front stabilizer shaft insulator to front suspension crossmember brackets being out of specification. Using the J 39570 Chassis Ear hooked up to each bracket may assist in determining if they are the source of the noise.

Correction
Replace both the front stabilizer shaft insulator brackets using the procedure listed below.

Raise and suitably support the vehicle.
Remove the front tire and wheel assemblies.



Reposition the intermediate steering shaft seal in order to gain access to the lower pinch bolt.
Remove the lower pinch bolt from the steering gear.
Support the front suspension crossmember with a suitable jackstand.
Remove the rear mounting bolts from the front suspension crossmember.
Remove the center mounting bolts from the front suspension crossmember.
Remove the front mounting bolts from the front suspension crossmember.
Lower the front suspension crossmember approximately 15 cm (6 in) by adjusting the jackstand down.



Remove the retaining bolts and stabilizer shaft insulator brackets.
Install the new stabilizer shaft insulator brackets and retaining bolts.
Tighten
Tighten the stabilizer shaft insulator bracket bolts to 66 N·m (49 lb ft).

Install the front mounting bolts to the front suspension crossmember. Hand tighten the bolts.
Install the center mounting bolts to the front suspension crossmember. Hand tighten the bolts.
Install the rear mounting bolts to the front suspension crossmember. Hand tighten the bolts.
Tighten

Tighten the left rear bolt to 110 N·m(71 lb ft).
Tighten the right rear bolt to 110 N·m(71 lb ft).
Tighten the left front bolt to 110 N·m(71 lb ft).
Tighten the right front bolt to 110 N·m(71 lb ft).
Tighten the center bolts to 110 N·m(71 lb ft).
Tighten the stabilizer shaft insulator brackets bolts to 66 N·m(49 lb ft).
Install the lower pinch bolt from the steering gear.
Tighten
Tighten the bolt to 40 N·m(30 lb ft).

Install the front tire and wheel assemblies.
Tighten
Tighten the nuts in a criss-cross pattern 140 N·m (100 lb ft).

Lower the vehicle.
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

22660396
Clamp (Bracket), Front Stabilizer Shaft
2


Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
Description
Labor Time

E2180
Insulator and/or Bracket Front Stabilizer Shaft at Frame -- Replace
Use Published Labor Operation Time




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JoeyWeebs
12-06-2006, 07:10 AM
Sorry it took so long to get back on this. I JUST got the car fixed yesterday. They had a service tech take a ride with me back before thanksgiving. They told me it was the sway bar bushings. They said they were "frozen on the shaft". I'm not sure exactly how the suspension is set up on these cars, so I'm no sure what that means. Anyway...they replaced them after thanksgiving and I still had the noise. The same noise, not really any different I don't think.

I took it back a couple of days ago. This time they said it was the strut mounts. They replaced them and realigned everything - problem solved.

If they're both common problems, at least I got them both fixed under warranty.

By the way, I would definitely describe it as a creak or a squak, not a rattle.

Lab Rat
12-07-2006, 06:44 AM
My noise went away (well mostly) after about 6 months after the strut/spring swap. I believe it's the strut mounts but have not had the 200 bucks to throw at the car. Good luck.