Milzy's turbo car?

[drumking1721]

Does anyone know if Milzy has ran the sponsored turbo car that is on his website? I looked but i cant find if its been ran or not..

[drumking1721]

ok nevermind

[MilzyZ34]

ok nevermind


It hasn't ran yet. I had an accident a few months back that cost me some precious time before some of the major events this year. Right now the car is at the shop having all the chassis seams stitch welded for added rigidity, and having some sheet metal work done. It's a work in progress. I'll keep you guys posted when i fire it up.

[LoboMan7409]

so are you going to make a turbo kit?

[EnIgMa]

so are you going to make a turbo kit?

*iagree* *iagree*

[MilzyZ34]

so are you going to make a turbo kit?

Yes, I plan on offering a turbo kit, which I hope to have available sometime early 2007. We're building that on a "stock" Grand Am right now. The turbo setup on mine is highly custom, so it wouldn't make sense to make the kit like that one. I'll also post when I have some news on this Grand Am turbo kit.

[drumking1721]

saweet thanks milzy!

[cmtapanes]

looking forward on that turbo kit

[tejohnson]

I want to see that black beast run. Been quite a few months now Milzy...

[MilzyZ34]

I want to see that black beast run. Been quite a few months now Milzy...

I know. I'm as anxious as you are! :)

[Elderas]

are u gonna make one for the 2.2 :D

[SpyhunteR]

are u gonna make one for the 2.2 :D


do you really need someone to help to make a turbo kit for an ecotec?

www.hahnracecraft.com make your own intercooler plumbing, the rest is all you need.

[coupe]

I knew i have been holding off on big power mods for 4 years for a reason....





Good things come from those who waite

[MilzyZ34]

are u gonna make one for the 2.2 :D

I would just need a car, and some orders up front. the IC plumbing would essentially transfer over since it's the same car, provided we use the same IC, the other parts would be different.

[cmtapanes]

So whats the time frame for the new turbo kit for the 3400? When would it be available?

[MilzyZ34]

So whats the time frame for the new turbo kit for the 3400? When would it be available?

Early 2007 as I mentioned above.

[bu01]

price range/

[3.4lv6]

will the turbo kit work with the stage 2 performance kit on the 3400????

[timberwoof]

Is the Turbo going to be Ball Bearing or is that up to us?

[jaketuff]

Your are realigning the chassis on the smacked up GA? Damn, sounds like it would be easier to just get a fresh donor than go through all that measuring dis and reassembly...

Good luck with the T Kit, I can't wait to see the results as well. And remember MONDO suspension mods for this final track setup. If Milzy manages to get this car to the track and performing (MID 12's) it will mean (finally) someone has a one stop shop turbo kit, tranny, ECM and suspension mods!!!

Git her done.

OUT

[MilzyZ34]

price range/

I'm thinking around $4000 for the kit which will include all the turbo parts as well as the injectors and fuel pump needed. I will have an exact price when we're done with the first one.

[MilzyZ34]

will the turbo kit work with the stage 2 performance kit on the 3400????

A Stage 2 NA cam will be better than a stock cam on the turbo kit, but will not be as optimum as a Stage 2 turbo cam which is designed for boost. The Stage 2 heads and other parts will be no problem.

[MilzyZ34]

Is the Turbo going to be Ball Bearing or is that up to us?

The turbo will be a non-ball bearing Precision Garrett turbo in the standard kit, and an upgrade to ball-bearing will be available for somewhere in the 400-500 range. The turbo will be sized properly so that even a non-ballbearing one will spool up quickly, but the BB one will be an upgrade.

[MilzyZ34]

Your are realigning the chassis on the smacked up GA? Damn, sounds like it would be easier to just get a fresh donor than go through all that measuring dis and reassembly...

Good luck with the T Kit, I can't wait to see the results as well. And remember MONDO suspension mods for this final track setup. If Milzy manages to get this car to the track and performing (MID 12's) it will mean (finally) someone has a one stop shop turbo kit, tranny, ECM and suspension mods!!!

Git her done.

OUT

My Grand Am has never been hit. I'm having the chassis stitch welded at every seam in order to really stiffen up the body. It's just a way to make everything a little stronger.

I'll probably be fabricating some custom coilovers for the suspension on the race car.

I would be really made and disappointed if the car only ran Mid 12's.

[burg03]

well the only thing you will hopefully end up making for the 3400 is the bottom end (hint hint)

[cmtapanes]

So whats the status on the Milzy turbo kit?

[SpyhunteR]

so what's up with the car?

[O1GAGT]

so what's up with the car?

More like what is up with MMS as a whole.
The last updates on the web-page are over a year old and what ever happened with the "stage 3" setup.

[SpyhunteR]

My Grand Am has never been hit. I'm having the chassis stitch welded at every seam in order to really stiffen up the body. It's just a way to make everything a little stronger.

I'll probably be fabricating some custom coilovers for the suspension on the race car.

I would be really made and disappointed if the car only ran Mid 12's.

at least you can say your car is really really stiff.

[timberwoof]

Is milzy even still around. I haven't seen any posts by him in a very very very long time.

[drumking1721]

idk,it has been a while...

[cmtapanes]

he's missing in action.

[SpyhunteR]

his last post was february 3rd

[lone_wolf025]

Perhaps there is a reason beyond just not having time?

[Rich]

have any of you tried emailing him?

[El_Diablo]

seems like hes been a lurker lately, ever since his pushrod issues (not really trying to say anything, just happend to be around the same time)


i would deffinetly like to see some updates, we're also well into 2007 and no new products that ive seen.... not really looking that great for milzy IMO, atleast speak up and say a couple words

[timberwoof]

Embarassment can do some bad things to people. But hell I want to know about the stage 3 kit damn it.

[SpyhunteR]

proof that everybody should get a 2.2 ecotec or 2.4 quad.

[notsoaveragej0e]

...or a V8

[SikMindz]

...or a V8

Depends on the size of the pen0r.

[notsoaveragej0e]

always thinkin about teh cack... ~sigh~

[Vegeta]

MMS does not represent the entire 60V6 community or aftermarket.

[lvemy3100]

MMS does not represent the entire 60V6 community or aftermarket.

x2

[SpyhunteR]

...or a V8

tell all the V8 beef cakes that got to see my license plate. :attention

[lone_wolf025]

tell all the V8 beef cakes that got to see my license plate. :attention

Well not ALL of us can compete with such 12 second 4 bangers like yours ya know :p

[TurboAlero]

Wahha,, thats true, 4=8 lol

[AaronGTR]

mmmm, yeeeaaaaah.... not knocking spys achievement with 12's or anything... but the difference between 4 bangers and v8's is the v8's can be made to run 11's more easily, more cheaply, and more reliably than his car runs 12's. They'll walk all over him all day long.

[timberwoof]

I have a couple buddies around here that are running low 11s, on drag radials. Its pretty awesome. One is a Supra, another a Lexus gs300 with a 2JZ swap, and a couple camaros and stangs to even it all out. Oh yeah and cant forget the TT GTO, now that's a beast.

[lone_wolf025]

mmmm, yeeeaaaaah.... not knocking spys achievement with 12's or anything... but the difference between 4 bangers and v8's is the v8's can be made to run 11's more easily, more cheaply, and more reliably than his car runs 12's. They'll walk all over him all day long.

Oh yea I'll agree to that. There will always be someone better and with more power. But my thought is just that anyone can take a v8 and make it go fast. The real challenge is to find those creative enough and willing to make such a odd ball car like the GA fast.

[SpyhunteR]

mmmm, yeeeaaaaah.... not knocking spys achievement with 12's or anything... but the difference between 4 bangers and v8's is the v8's can be made to run 11's more easily, more cheaply, and more reliably than his car runs 12's. They'll walk all over him all day long.

Considering I'm in uncharted waters for this platform I'll tend to agree to a point.
Non-existant clutches aside, this car will be able to make the cross country trek to GAP.

[SpyhunteR]

Well not ALL of us can compete with such 12 second 4 bangers like yours ya know :p

Not many people will be able to say 12 second 4 banger anymore when referring to me. Be prepared to edit your post in a few weeks.

[SpyhunteR]

I have a couple buddies around here that are running low 11s, on drag radials. Its pretty awesome. One is a Supra, another a Lexus gs300 with a 2JZ swap, and a couple camaros and stangs to even it all out. Oh yeah and cant forget the TT GTO, now that's a beast.

WELL WELL WELL ! I HAVE A FEW BUDDIES RUNNING 11's, 10's, 9's and 8's and still are driving on the street, SO THERE!

[Vegeta]

Local guy has a mustang that could be 6-8 with traction...hahaha. I dunno what that or your 4 banger have to do with milzy's turbo car though.

[timberwoof]

WELL WELL WELL ! I HAVE A FEW BUDDIES RUNNING 11's, 10's, 9's and 8's and still are driving on the street, SO THERE!

*throws in the towel* :D

[drumking1721]

well we need to figure out if milzy is still alive...

[El_Diablo]

MMS does not represent the entire 60V6 community or aftermarket.
agreed, but that doesn't stop me from being interested, even though i find his parts overpriced and overhyped... ohwell :amraam:

[SpyhunteR]

Local guy has a mustang that could be 6-8 with traction...hahaha. I dunno what that or your 4 banger have to do with milzy's turbo car though.

He would be my competition.

[TurboAlero]

Wahah well dont under est a 4 banger lol , a local guy @ here has a 198* something , ,toyota starlet 4 door with a 3sgte engine with a big turbo running 9.33 @ 145 miles whaha daily driving car hihi

[notsoaveragej0e]

Wahah well dont under est a 4 banger lol , a local guy @ here has a 198* something , ,toyota starlet 4 door with a 3sgte engine with a big turbo running 9.33 @ 145 miles whaha daily driving car hihi

Yeah... but its STILL a Toyota Starlet :amraam:

[vipey1337]

you also got talons and the like to compare with :) in the realm of 4 bangers, that is.

[SpyhunteR]

you also got talons and the like to compare with :) in the realm of 4 bangers, that is.

I don't wanna go near an awd car.

[El_Diablo]

haha, not all talons are AWD though ;)

[timberwoof]

Hmmm a Talon Turbo AWD, sounds good. Isn't that the one they have in Vehicular Lunatics?

[SpyhunteR]

haha, not all talons are AWD though ;)

yes yes this is a known fact. fwd and awd. I won't touch, well that's a lie, but I won't touch a few particular awd cars running around vegas.

[vipey1337]

I sent Milzy and email back in mid-March and he had responded, but I haven't heard anything since... anyone try emailing him? This is weird :confused:

[SpyhunteR]

oh well he's not the be all end all of n-body aftermarket.

[Zero]

WIll the turbo kit work for the 3100 SFI V6. Or would i have to replace the Uim and LIM to a 3400 for the kit to work.

[Ajaxus]

WIll the turbo kit work for the 3100 SFI V6. Or would i have to replace the Uim and LIM to a 3400 for the kit to work.

this thread isn't about a kit for production..atleast not yet..it's about a turbo car our sponsor is supposed to be working on.

run some searches on here and you may find some good information about how to run a turbo on your 3100.

[MilzyZ34]

Perhaps there is a reason beyond just not having time?

Nope, that's the reason. I've been working around the clock for months now on many cars and projects. Last month alone I did 9 major jobs including 5 engine swaps. To put it bluntly, I've been absolutely slammed. I'm sorry if some of you feel I've neglected the message forums, but something had to give, and I couldn't give up answering my e-mails or doing the actual work that pays the bills. I'm finally able to see the light at the end of the tunnel right now, as I only have 5 cars here right now that I have to get ready for racing, plus a few more that will come in the next week or so. As far as not updating the website, I know this has been an issue for a while, but I just have not had the time to do it. Sometimes I feel that to get something done on time or done the way I want, I'm the one who has to do it, so that usually means my schedule gets pretty full. Some sacrifices had to be made, the website not being updated in some sections was one of them.

Anyways, update on the turbo car. The bad thing about being so busy is I've had to put my car on the backburner lately. I started working on it again this week, when I made the new wiring harness for the car. It's getting there. I've still got to get some changes made to the cage, and get the coil-over suspension setup ready, and just start getting everything buttoned up.

As for the production turbo kit car, we hope to have something done with that one in the next week. I'll keep you guys posted.

Anyways, I'm still around, I've been here the whole time, not lurking or anything else, just working. You guys can reach me anytime you want at mikem@milzymotorsports.com which I check daily if not a few times a day. I'll also try to frequent the boards a little more as i can.

[drumking1721]

yay milzy

[timberwoof]

Good to see you back. Glad there is some progress on the car as well. Looking foward to seeing the end result.

[tejohnson]

So.... Will it be at the Pontiac Nationals this year. And going down the track? Sitting beside other forced induction Grand Am(s) on a trailer doesn't count ;)

[cmtapanes]

coil-overs? is that something you will have available on your website?
good to see that you are still around...

[MilzyZ34]

So.... Will it be at the Pontiac Nationals this year. And going down the track? Sitting beside other forced induction Grand Am(s) on a trailer doesn't count ;)

It will be there. It will go down the track. I can't say how many times it will make it down the track, but it will make a pass.

Trust me, I didn't want it to sit on a trailer last year either.

[MilzyZ34]

coil-overs? is that something you will have available on your website?
good to see that you are still around...

We're making a lot of custom one-off pieces for my grand am. Whether or not they actually make it to production is going to depend on how well they perform and how well they would work on a daily driven street car.

[Mendoza]

I can't wait for nationals this year any chance i can park my car with the rest of the crew this year?

[tejohnson]

I can't wait for nationals this year any chance i can park my car with the rest of the crew this year?

There wasn't anything stopping you from doing it last year ;)

[Mendoza]

I thought i had to have a special pass to get on that part of the track? Or do i just have to prepay or something?

[tejohnson]

I thought i had to have a special pass to get on that part of the track? Or do i just have to prepay or something?

Well, yea... Something like "pit crew", but that is all. You just get a wristband. But you coulda bought that rather than spectator entry...

Maybe we'll get lucky and win the raffle for the press booth again ;) Nice to sit in the A/C...

[SikMindz]

Last I remember is that one side was the "cool" side and the other was...well, you know- "uncool."

You're not cool enough Javin.

lol

[Mendoza]

Great i get stuck riding the short bus lol

[AaronGTR]

Yeah, they aren't too strict about stuff there as long as you don't cause any problems. I was entered in the car show but I ended up camping over on the racers side with Todd and Patt, even though I wasn't supposed to be there. This year I plan on racing though, as long as everything works with my schedule and I can make it anyway.

[tejohnson]

I thought i had to have a special pass to get on that part of the track? Or do i just have to prepay or something?

Well, yea... Something like "pit crew", but that is all. You just get a wristband. But you coulda bought that rather than spectator entry...

Maybe we'll get lucky and win the raffle for the press booth again ;) Nice to sit in the A/C...

[Mendoza]

I would love to run my car but since i don't have any type of forced induction i would feel very out of place haha.

[bigstribs]

well did u go t nationals? i was gonna go but **** popped up :(

[MilzyZ34]

I was waiting for some of my parts to come in for the turbo system, and wasn't able to get the car done in time.

I've got it real close now, all I have left is a good portion of the wiring (have to wire the entire car), and then I have to install my polycarbonate rear glass and sunroof, and I'll be all set.

[Mendoza]

I didn't get a chance to head to nationals to anyone else go? I would like to see some pics.

[MilzyZ34]

I didn't get a chance to head to nationals to anyone else go? I would like to see some pics.

I went up there, but i didn't see any Grand Ams there.

[drumking1721]

I was waiting for some of my parts to come in for the turbo system, and wasn't able to get the car done in time.

I've got it real close now, all I have left is a good portion of the wiring (have to wire the entire car), and then I have to install my polycarbonate rear glass and sunroof, and I'll be all set.

you dont need rear glass!!! ha

[Ajaxus]

polycarbonate? what thickness did you get for that?


that **** gets pricey..but damn is it fun. :D

[MilzyZ34]

polycarbonate? what thickness did you get for that?


that **** gets pricey..but damn is it fun. :D


1/8"

Anything to save weight. This should be one light GA. I think over winter I may get some carbon fiber body panels to help lighten things up.

[silvergtjrad]

damnit milzy, get that thing to the track already!

[SpyhunteR]

hmmmmmmmmm.

[drumking1721]

So this is pretty much gonna be like the ZZP TTGP. Only a turbod 3400 grand am. Cant wait. Milzy you think once you get this dialed in right youd ever go twin?

[Blackbombshell9]

So this is pretty much gonna be like the ZZP TTGP. Only a turbod 3400 grand am. Cant wait. Milzy you think once you get this dialed in right youd ever go twin?

I'd piss my pants if Mike put as much effort into his 3400 Turbo as ZZP put in to their TTGT. Were probably talking $50k plus. Just my guestimate.

[drumking1721]

I'd piss my pants if Mike put as much effort into his 3400 Turbo 3400 as ZZP put in to their TTGT. Were probably talking $50k plus. Just my guestimate.

yea id guess that.....but ya never know,thats why i ask

[SikMindz]

Make me an offer and I'll send you my body panels Milzy!

[Ajaxus]

I'd piss my pants if Mike put as much effort into his 3400 Turbo 3400 as ZZP put in to their TTGT. Were probably talking $50k plus. Just my guestimate.

If it helps, a 14"x14"x3/8" piece of polycarbonate will run you over $70..so considering what he bought..price may not be a factor, lol


This reminds me, I still have to finish my indestructible laptop mount..haha

[silvergtjrad]

That zzp drag car has WELL over $50k into it. I bet they have come near or past the $100k mark. The initial cost may be close to $50k, but parts dont last that long when you make silly amounts of power, no matter wtf they are made of.

[MilzyZ34]

damnit milzy, get that thing to the track already!

I'm trying real hard. Only thing that usually gets in the way is all the customers' cars I have to work on. It sucks sometimes having to push mine off, but that's my job.

I'm looking to get it out to the track before things start closing. Worst case, I think I'll take a road trip and go to the tracks that are open.

The ZZP TT car is pretty nasty. I don't have that much work into this one. I haven't added up exactly how much i have in it, but I know I don't have 50k in it. The car is a stock chassis grand am with a cage that ties into the wheelie bars, has custom coil overs, etc. It isn't a full tube chassis car like ZZP's. I can't afford to put like 10k+ just in the chassis work, so I'm just trying to make it as light as I can.

[timberwoof]

Vids would be nice, when you got to the track there Milzy...