Plans to Join

[Ajaxus]

This thread is for anyone who plans to join the military, it also gives those that are active the chance to recognize you and maybe even assist you in your decision. Just copy and paste the following then fill in the fields. Feel free to add anything else if you want.

Name:
Service interested in:
Target MOS:
Level of Education Completed:


I'll start...

Name: AJ
Service interested in: Marine Corps./NAVY..although I'm leaning hard towards the Corps right now.
Target MOS: Aviation
Level of Education Completed: Currently a Sophomore in college.

[ihatemygrandamg]

Name: Mike
Service interested in: Army res/national guard
Target MOS: Whatever
Level of Education Completed: Nothing yet, im a senior in hs but i have to take summer school classes

[timmat1]

Name: Mike
Service interested in: Army res/national guard
Target MOS: Whatever
Level of Education Completed: Nothing yet, im a senior in hs but i have to take summer school classes

lol... whatever??? if thats your view... dont join... you'll regret it

[Ajaxus]

i should probably mention. 2nd choice MOS for me is spec. ops., 3rd choice is intel.

[ihatemygrandamg]

lol... whatever??? if thats your view... dont join... you'll regret it

Its not that, Im just not really sure yet. Im not even sure if I would be able to join cause of a near fatal head injury I had a few years ago.

[timmat1]

well... if you want into the military... LIE and never say you had any issues... tell them that you had a near fatel head injury and any dream of getting in the military will be shattered....

If your thinking about 11B (infantry) go 18 series (special forces) if you wanna be cool you need to be special forces... watch the TV series the Unit to see what Special Forces is like. if you go 11B plan on sittin on top of a humvee getting shot at... or out at little fobs in Afganistan.... just my $.02

[timmat1]

Army is the only branch that will write your mos in your contract... all other services... they pick where they want you...

[bballr4567]

Army is the only branch that will write your mos in your contract... all other services... they pick where they want you...

This is soooo true and why many people choose the army of other branches. Just make sure if you dont get what you want the first time then walk out and come back. Dont EVER settle.

Also please please please dont go 11B or try to get a SF contract. I work with 11B everyday and unless you are really retarded or actually think it *GASP* might be fun go ahead and do it. Personally I cant see how anybody actually wants to be infantry. The deal with the SF contract is that you have to go to RIP and almost 93% of people who go to RIP right out of Basic end up failing. Then you are stuck with a 6 yr contrac to fulfill. We currently have two guys in our platoon that are going through SF recruiters. The hardest thing so far for both guys is getting the Top Secret clearance.

Anyways if you plan to go the SF way do a few years in the Reg Army and then go join up. If nothing else you will get the feel of the Army and have a few extra years to get in shape for it.


BTW The Unit has got to be the most retarded show ever. Also its Delta Force which is different then SF.

[FuriousG]

Army is the only branch that will write your mos in your contract... all other services... they pick where they want you...

Not true. You can pick your job in the Air Force too. I came in with an open electronics because I didn't know exactly what I wanted but even in basic training they gave me a choice of 7 open career fields.

As long as it's not a field where they're trying to get rid of people you can usually get a job. If you pick something where they are desperate for people you can get a pretty decent bonus for signing up.

Personally speaking, I joined the AF because they offered the best lifestyle that suited me. It's not as much of a military life as the other branches and gives me alot more time for family and personal life.

[sjones419]

Not true. You can pick your job in the Air Force too. I came in with an open electronics because I didn't know exactly what I wanted but even in basic training they gave me a choice of 7 open career fields.

As long as it's not a field where they're trying to get rid of people you can usually get a job. If you pick something where they are desperate for people you can get a pretty decent bonus for signing up.

Personally speaking, I joined the AF because they offered the best lifestyle that suited me. It's not as much of a military life as the other branches and gives me alot more time for family and personal life.

x2

[ihatemygrandamg]

well... if you want into the military... LIE and never say you had any issues... tell them that you had a near fatel head injury and any dream of getting in the military will be shattered....

If your thinking about 11B (infantry) go 18 series (special forces) if you wanna be cool you need to be special forces... watch the TV series the Unit to see what Special Forces is like. if you go 11B plan on sittin on top of a humvee getting shot at... or out at little fobs in Afganistan.... just my $.02

That would be kinda hard seeing as I have a piece of my skull missing with a titanium plate and screws in there. I would have to carry some kind of authorization saying that I cant get an MRI, incase I had some kind of injury or something.

[bballr4567]

Hmmm I dont think youll be able to get in then. That had to of been a pretty serious injury but youll have to go to MEPS to see for sure.

[jackal2000]

Also please please please dont go 11B or try to get a SF contract. I work with 11B everyday and unless you are really retarded or actually think it *GASP* might be fun go ahead and do it. Personally I cant see how anybody actually wants to be infantry. The deal with the SF contract is that you have to go to RIP and almost 93% of people who go to RIP right out of Basic end up failing. Then you are stuck with a 6 yr contrac to fulfill. We currently have two guys in our platoon that are going through SF recruiters. The hardest thing so far for both guys is getting the Top Secret clearance.

Anyways if you plan to go the SF way do a few years in the Reg Army and then go join up. If nothing else you will get the feel of the Army and have a few extra years to get in shape for it.


last time i checked RIP (ranger indoctrination program) is a precourse for going to ranger school. if you plan on going SF you have to go to selection.

[Ajaxus]

well thread took a different direction, but good info here nontheless. keep it comin. :D

[ihatemygrandamg]

Hmmm I dont think youll be able to get in then. That had to of been a pretty serious injury but youll have to go to MEPS to see for sure.

Yea I got jumped and hit in the head with an aluminum baseball bat when I was 15. Three 18 year olds with a bat and brass knuckles started jumping my friend and i tried to help. I had a subdural hemetoma, with bleeding deep into my brain. I also had a jaw fracture, my eye was swolen shut for 3 weeks, and I was deaf in my left ear for 6 months.

Ive talked to people from the marines, national guard,navy,etc and nobody was sure if I would or wouldnt be able to join.

[jackal2000]

well thread took a different direction, but good info here nontheless. keep it comin. :D

are you wanting to be an officer? that college degree certainly helps with that. i know the army has OCS (officer candidate school) which is class for enlisted soldiers joining the officer ranks but i dont know about marines.

[jackal2000]

Yea I got jumped and hit in the head with an aluminum baseball bat when I was 15. Three 18 year olds with a bat and brass knuckles started jumping my friend and i tried to help. I had a subdural hemetoma, with bleeding deep into my brain. I also had a jaw fracture, my eye was swolen shut for 3 weeks, and I was deaf in my left ear for 6 months.

Ive talked to people from the marines, national guard,navy,etc and nobody was sure if I would or wouldnt be able to join.

if you can get a waiver from your doctor stating your past medical problems will not be an issue with your military service then your chances are good to get in. i had to get a waiver for "asthma" when i joined. my doc prescribed me an inhaler for when i was playing football in junior high but i hardly used it and was never formally diagnosed with asthma so they let me in.

and as far as security clearances go, dont bs the forms or lie on them. i told them straight up that i smoked pot before and guess what, i still got my clearance.

[Ajaxus]

are you wanting to be an officer? that college degree certainly helps with that. i know the army has OCS (officer candidate school) which is class for enlisted soldiers joining the officer ranks but i dont know about marines.

yes, i'm planning to go the officer route. the only officer recruiter i've talked with so far is the marines. they have two programs for me to really choose from, there's OCC which is basically OCS, and the PLC program. the PLC seems to be the most popular route right now, it's two 6-week sessions put into two summers during your college years. the second session obviously more difficult than the first. but due to degree requirements here, i have to spend several weeks outside of the country during one summer doing an overseas bit, and this overlaps PLC. so i'm left with OCC as an option. the recruiter told me basically this, retain a 2.0 or higher GPA, stay in shape, meet medical requirements and you're in.

i've been on a solid diet for several months, about 80% organic, i supplement smartly but like a madman, and i lift weights about 3-4x a week with cardio mixed in. so given that i have 2 years left of schooling, i should be in great shape when it comes time to join up (not that i was in that bad of shape to begin with). :D

medical requirements, i have one thing holding me back but i'll have that cleared in about 6 months and have a clean slate to work from. and gpa wise, im calculating that i'll graduate with approx. 3.0 or higher which puts me in a decent position.

my top choice like i said is aviation, and i'll probably get a few licenses now on the civilian side so i can log some hours in the air and get the basics down. im also keeping intel up as an option and looking at a few others.

[jackal2000]

im not totally anti-weight lifting as i do some myself but its important to do exercises that utilize your body weight as thats what you will ultimately be tested on, i.e. pushups, pullups etc. i have seen guys who can bench press a truck but cant do enough pushups to pass the test. lol

im biased but intel > *MOS's

[sjones419]

yes, i'm planning to go the officer route. the only officer recruiter i've talked with so far is the marines. they have two programs for me to really choose from, there's OCC which is basically OCS, and the PLC program. the PLC seems to be the most popular route right now, it's two 6-week sessions put into two summers during your college years. the second session obviously more difficult than the first. but due to degree requirements here, i have to spend several weeks outside of the country during one summer doing an overseas bit, and this overlaps PLC. so i'm left with OCC as an option. the recruiter told me basically this, retain a 2.0 or higher GPA, stay in shape, meet medical requirements and you're in.

i've been on a solid diet for several months, about 80% organic, i supplement smartly but like a madman, and i lift weights about 3-4x a week with cardio mixed in. so given that i have 2 years left of schooling, i should be in great shape when it comes time to join up (not that i was in that bad of shape to begin with). :D

medical requirements, i have one thing holding me back but i'll have that cleared in about 6 months and have a clean slate to work from. and gpa wise, im calculating that i'll graduate with approx. 3.0 or higher which puts me in a decent position.

my top choice like i said is aviation, and i'll probably get a few licenses now on the civilian side so i can log some hours in the air and get the basics down. im also keeping intel up as an option and looking at a few others.


Have fun trying to get a pilot slot going the OCS way. Im not being a kill-joy but the odds are that 80% of the pilot slot go to Academy grads adn the last 10% is shared between ROTC and OCS. If you still want to go the SF way go to AF OCS and then go Special Tatics Officer or Pararescue. Their job (especially the STO's) description encumpases the mission capabilities of 98% of the Armed Forces Spec Ops feilds.

You also need to be doing alot more floor exercises such as sit ups push ups and pull ups You need to start to cut out the weight lifting adn the supplements ( cus during basic you wont be able to take supplements) and start running a a** ton im talking about at least 5-6 miles a day and also you need to but some sandbags in a book bag and go running with that on your back (at least 60lbs). You also need to crank up the swimming. Try at least 3-4 hours of non stop swimming 3 times a week. Swimming is huge for SF. I have been training the last 3 years for Special Tactics Officer and trust me you will need to bust your a** hard starting now. I got my free fall and static line jump wings, went to and completed air assault school, and ranger school, along with Mini BUDS (Basic Underwater Demolition). So if you want to question my credentials there is no need. Im 5'9" 160lbs with 3% body fat, which proves that you dont need to be huge, just strong ang long winded.

[bballr4567]

last time i checked RIP (ranger indoctrination program) is a precourse for going to ranger school. if you plan on going SF you have to go to selection.

Not correct. You can go to RIP and earn your Ranger tab but not go to a Ranger Battalion. However a lot of SF members go to RIP before selection because its a pretty good precourse for selection.

One of the medics in our platoon is going to selection here in a few weeks but he hasnt gone to RIP. Like I said its just a good way to get an idea of what selection will be like physical wise.

[jackal2000]

Not correct. You can go to RIP and earn your Ranger tab but not go to a Ranger Battalion. However a lot of SF members go to RIP before selection because its a pretty good precourse for selection.

One of the medics in our platoon is going to selection here in a few weeks but he hasnt gone to RIP. Like I said its just a good way to get an idea of what selection will be like physical wise.

uhhhh getting through RIP will NOT earn you a ranger tab. thats what ranger SCHOOL is for. RIP's whole purpose is for weeding out the non-hackers so the RI's arent wasting their time when the actual school starts. yes you can graduate from ranger school and not go to a BN, especially if you went to school on TDY orders. there is a HUGE difference between being a ranger and SF but i will agree that most (not all) SF people that i have encountered also have a ranger tab.

[bballr4567]

Yea I just reread that and totally mistated what I tried to say.

I lived with two SF teams and worked closely with both of the 18Ds and I would say that maybe all but two had a Ranger tab. Not sure if some went after there were in SF or before.

[Ajaxus]

Have fun trying to get a pilot slot going the OCS way. Im not being a kill-joy but the odds are that 80% of the pilot slot go to Academy grads adn the last 10% is shared between ROTC and OCS. If you still want to go the SF way go to AF OCS and then go Special Tatics Officer or Pararescue. Their job (especially the STO's) description encumpases the mission capabilities of 98% of the Armed Forces Spec Ops feilds.

You also need to be doing alot more floor exercises such as sit ups push ups and pull ups You need to start to cut out the weight lifting adn the supplements ( cus during basic you wont be able to take supplements) and start running a a** ton im talking about at least 5-6 miles a day and also you need to but some sandbags in a book bag and go running with that on your back (at least 60lbs). You also need to crank up the swimming. Try at least 3-4 hours of non stop swimming 3 times a week. Swimming is huge for SF. I have been training the last 3 years for Special Tactics Officer and trust me you will need to bust your a** hard starting now. I got my free fall and static line jump wings, went to and completed air assault school, and ranger school, along with Mini BUDS (Basic Underwater Demolition). So if you want to question my credentials there is no need. Im 5'9" 160lbs with 3% body fat, which proves that you dont need to be huge, just strong ang long winded.


I know making it as a pilot will be tough, but I'm not much in the way of a quitter.

On to the exercise, I do alot of body weight exercises as well, but I spent years as a runner (5-6miles like you mentioned was an easy day for me, 15 miles a hard day, 9-10 miles average day) and have little in the way of an upper body, hence the weight lifting.

The book bag causes alot of back injuries, a weight vest is better because it distributes the weight evenly. I'll be starting a vest in a year and hope to be running with 80lbs extra on me by the time I go in.

I know the supplements won't be allowed when I get there, I plan to go clean 6 months before entering. Right now I keep it pretty basic though, a Vitamin supplement, Protein supplement, and a Creatine supplement. All are naturally found in foods, I'm just taking higher doses cause like I said, I have the upper body of a runner which isn't much of an upper body at all.

I forgot about the swimming, but I was once in the Top 30 for my age group in the state...:D Course this was a LONG time ago, so I'll have to work my way back up since I'm a bit larger now...heh

You sure bout that bf%? 3% is lower than most body builders (they mainly are at 5%) course if you are an endomorph then I'd understand. My goal is to nail 6'2" 190lbs and around 12% bf. I think that's a decent place to be before going in.

Now since you mentioned body weight exercises and running, I'm going to begin roadwork mixed with HIT this spring. HIT will boost my endurance in speed workouts and trim most of my fat off. Roadwork is also an endurance booster but it involves alot of bodyweight exercises as well.

Trust me on this, my exercise routine is pretty freakin good, I've got alot of great tools at my disposal, and my diet is about as clean as they come. In the past month I've noticed massive gains both physically and mentally for myself. And to quote my mom "you're ocd about working out and diet Aj."

No lie, I talk about nothing else, lol

I've also started to dabble in Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for my aerobic workouts. Mix it up with some cycling and x-country skiing to keep my body guessing. :D

[sjones419]

I know making it as a pilot will be tough, but I'm not much in the way of a quitter.

On to the exercise, I do alot of body weight exercises as well, but I spent years as a runner (5-6miles like you mentioned was an easy day for me, 15 miles a hard day, 9-10 miles average day) and have little in the way of an upper body, hence the weight lifting.

The book bag causes alot of back injuries, a weight vest is better because it distributes the weight evenly. I'll be starting a vest in a year and hope to be running with 80lbs extra on me by the time I go in.

I know the supplements won't be allowed when I get there, I plan to go clean 6 months before entering. Right now I keep it pretty basic though, a Vitamin supplement, Protein supplement, and a Creatine supplement. All are naturally found in foods, I'm just taking higher doses cause like I said, I have the upper body of a runner which isn't much of an upper body at all.

I forgot about the swimming, but I was once in the Top 30 for my age group in the state...:D Course this was a LONG time ago, so I'll have to work my way back up since I'm a bit larger now...heh

You sure bout that bf%? 3% is lower than most body builders (they mainly are at 5%) course if you are an endomorph then I'd understand. My goal is to nail 6'2" 190lbs and around 12% bf. I think that's a decent place to be before going in.

Now since you mentioned body weight exercises and running, I'm going to begin roadwork mixed with HIT this spring. HIT will boost my endurance in speed workouts and trim most of my fat off. Roadwork is also an endurance booster but it involves alot of bodyweight exercises as well.

Trust me on this, my exercise routine is pretty freakin good, I've got alot of great tools at my disposal, and my diet is about as clean as they come. In the past month I've noticed massive gains both physically and mentally for myself. And to quote my mom "you're ocd about working out and diet Aj."

No lie, I talk about nothing else, lol

I've also started to dabble in Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for my aerobic workouts. Mix it up with some cycling and x-country skiing to keep my body guessing. :D

Just tryin to give you some pointers that will help you out because its not like i havent been goin through the actual training the last 3 yrs. i wasnt trying to say that what you were doin was wrong just tellin you how its gona be. And the whole book bag thing, they are gonna put you in a ruk sak and make you run, which is just like a book bag, so you should just get used to running with a book bag. They wont put a weight vest on you. Also dont quit anything just because someone says it will be hard, i was just pointin that stat out for you. And yes 3% body fat, its not that hard, i know alot of people like me who have around 3%.

[Ajaxus]

Just tryin to give you some pointers that will help you out because its not like i havent been goin through the actual training the last 3 yrs. i wasnt trying to say that what you were doin was wrong just tellin you how its gona be. And the whole book bag thing, they are gonna put you in a ruk sak and make you run, which is just like a book bag, so you should just get used to running with a book bag. They wont put a weight vest on you. Also dont quit anything just because someone says it will be hard, i was just pointin that stat out for you. And yes 3% body fat, its not that hard, i know alot of people like me who have around 3%.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I know you've been through it, as have the other couple dozen people that I've been talking to from all branches so I do take the advice I'm given to heart. It's just that I know where my body is at this point in time and I've decided that weight lifting takes precedence the most at this point in time.

As for the ruk sack they give us, correct me if I'm wrong, but it has straps around the front in addition to over the shoulders, correct? These straps would act in a way to evenly distribute the weight if I'm right about the design. Now if I had a backpack of similar design that I could weight down then I would go that route, but the conventional backpack isn't of that design and I'd prefer to avoid injuries by using improper equipment, that's just me. If I do find one of similar design though I won't hesitate to train with it.

No plans to quit either, the way I see it is this: if something is possible, then I have the ability to achieve it and I won't give up until I have. I don't think there's any better philosophy on life.

3% is amazing..maybe one day, but for now I do like a little insulation against these cold winters, lol

[Ajaxus]

well, my computer isn't letting me add this to my above post so i'll just put it here:

"But I'm not ignoring your advice by any means. Actually since my car battery is still dead I've had to make tonight a strictly bodyweight exercise night, just finished my first set of push-ups..heh"

i was tryin to add that to the end of my first paragraph but it isn't really workin *shrug*

[bballr4567]

AJ the ruck sacks BLOW!!! Even though the MOLLE is a great improvement over the ALICE pack. The stomach straps are totally useless and only serve as an additional tie dow strap that is annoying to get off when you have to drop it fast. It doesnt do anything to distribute the weight at all.

[sjones419]

No plans to quit either, the way I see it is this: if something is possible, then I have the ability to achieve it and I won't give up until I have. I don't think there's any better philosophy on life.

3% is amazing..maybe one day, but for now I do like a little insulation against these cold winters, lol

HELL YEAH... dont quit till you fail

[Ajaxus]

HELL YEAH... dont quit till you fail

hell, why even quit then? :D



and it's a shame about those stomach straps..guess i'll have to focus on exercises that vastly strengthen the muscles in my back and abs more than i expected to counteract the weight distribution.

[jackal2000]

AJ the ruck sacks BLOW!!! Even though the MOLLE is a great improvement over the ALICE pack. The stomach straps are totally useless and only serve as an additional tie dow strap that is annoying to get off when you have to drop it fast. It doesnt do anything to distribute the weight at all.


if you put the waist strap right over your hips it will take some of the weight off your shoulders but only pussies do that:amraam:

[bballr4567]

Yea its too much of a PITA to get it to work right. Like I said though its a lot better then the ALICE packs.

[timmat1]

I came in with an open electronics because I didn't know exactly what I wanted but even in basic training they gave me a choice of 7 open career fields.


With enlisting in the Army... you chose your MOS before signing not in basic training

[timmat1]

That would be kinda hard seeing as I have a piece of my skull missing with a titanium plate and screws in there. I would have to carry some kind of authorization saying that I cant get an MRI, incase I had some kind of injury or something.



Yea... you might want to look for other employment opportunities outside the military

[timmat1]

are you wanting to be an officer? that college degree certainly helps with that. i know the army has OCS (officer candidate school) which is class for enlisted soldiers joining the officer ranks but i dont know about marines.

Marines have OCS too... I think most branchs have an ocs course... And you dont need your bachelors degree only like 90 or so credits... with the understanding of finishing the last courses in the first few years..

[timmat1]

Yea I got jumped and hit in the head with an aluminum baseball bat when I was 15. Three 18 year olds with a bat and brass knuckles started jumping my friend and i tried to help. I had a subdural hemetoma, with bleeding deep into my brain. I also had a jaw fracture, my eye was swolen shut for 3 weeks, and I was deaf in my left ear for 6 months.

Ive talked to people from the marines, national guard,navy,etc and nobody was sure if I would or wouldnt be able to join.




Best way to find out is trying...

[timmat1]

im not totally anti-weight lifting as i do some myself but its important to do exercises that utilize your body weight as thats what you will ultimately be tested on, i.e. pushups, pullups etc. i have seen guys who can bench press a truck but cant do enough pushups to pass the test. lol

im biased but intel > *MOS's

I agree... I have maxed 2/3 of my pt tests... and on the 3rd one I still got a 288 only did bad cause we were running on rocks... there too retarded and wont let us run on the taxi ramp... oh well

but I agree... you wanna do go....

Marines:
Run (3 mile +), crunches, and pull ups

Army:
Run (2 mile +). situps. and push ups

[timmat1]

yes, i'm planning to go the officer route. the only officer recruiter i've talked with so far is the marines. they have two programs for me to really choose from, there's OCC which is basically OCS, and the PLC program. the PLC seems to be the most popular route right now, it's two 6-week sessions put into two summers during your college years. the second session obviously more difficult than the first. but due to degree requirements here, i have to spend several weeks outside of the country during one summer doing an overseas bit, and this overlaps PLC. so i'm left with OCC as an option. the recruiter told me basically this, retain a 2.0 or higher GPA, stay in shape, meet medical requirements and you're in.

i've been on a solid diet for several months, about 80% organic, i supplement smartly but like a madman, and i lift weights about 3-4x a week with cardio mixed in. so given that i have 2 years left of schooling, i should be in great shape when it comes time to join up (not that i was in that bad of shape to begin with). :D

medical requirements, i have one thing holding me back but i'll have that cleared in about 6 months and have a clean slate to work from. and gpa wise, im calculating that i'll graduate with approx. 3.0 or higher which puts me in a decent position.

my top choice like i said is aviation, and i'll probably get a few licenses now on the civilian side so i can log some hours in the air and get the basics down. im also keeping intel up as an option and looking at a few others.


With an Associates degree you are elligible to go to WOCS(warrent officer candidate school) and fly that way... Army is the only service where you dont have to be an officer to fly. Thats why I joined the Army... I would drop my packet now... but am down to 3.5 yrs left and going woc would up me to 6 again...

[timmat1]

but i will agree that most (not all) SF people that i have encountered also have a ranger tab.

Out here.. I see that most of the SF dont wear ranger tabs... kinda like being halo and not wearing your airbone wings i guess

[timmat1]

AJ the ruck sacks BLOW!!! Even though the MOLLE is a great improvement over the ALICE pack. The stomach straps are totally useless and only serve as an additional tie dow strap that is annoying to get off when you have to drop it fast. It doesnt do anything to distribute the weight at all.


the stomach straps I find as more usefull when I run with a ruck... that way it doesn't bounce on the lower back....

[FuriousG]

With enlisting in the Army... you chose your MOS before signing not in basic training


Normally the same scenario in the AF but I was in such a whirlwind rush at the time that I made the mistake of going open electronics instead of locking myself into a job at MEPS. It all worked out okay because what I thought I wanted to do at the time is something I'm glad I'm not doing now and what I am doing now fits me much better than the other job. Not everyone gets as lucky as me when they come in open though. Most get stuck as security forces (AF infantry for the most part) or services (cooks and gym workers.)

[bballr4567]

the stomach straps I find as more usefull when I run with a ruck... that way it doesn't bounce on the lower back....

Yea we never run with it here. We always use our Aid bags or Assualt packs.

[timmat1]

Yea we never run with it here. We always use our Aid bags or Assualt packs.

I im aviation... I live spoiled but dont get all the cool upgrades... no molley gear for me

[bballr4567]

Im Rakkasan. I get all the cool gear but none of the fun stuff.

Only bad thing about the molle is there are a TON and I mean a TON of straps on it. You get caught on everything while wearing it. Especially when getting deployed.

[cowykillr]

This thread is for anyone who plans to join the military, it also gives those that are active the chance to recognize you and maybe even assist you in your decision. Just copy and paste the following then fill in the fields. Feel free to add anything else if you want.

Name:
Service interested in:
Target MOS:
Level of Education Completed:


I'll start...

Name: AJ
Service interested in: Marine Corps./NAVY..although I'm leaning hard towards the Corps right now.
Target MOS: Aviation
Level of Education Completed: Currently a Sophomore in college.
hey man, if you're looking to go into special forces w/ the Marines, let me tell you from personal experience that it is some tough **** and dont ever quit if you do it.

Marine Corps Force Recon is no small thing. 3 months into it, just the training tore my achillies tendon...i was part of half the guys that didnt drop out yet due to quitting/injury...

but on a good note, you'll never ever be with a better group of guys to trust your life with.

Message me if you have any questions

[Ajaxus]

ill be sure to do that..ive got two more years to get in shape so ill be needing some tips on good exercises to focus on.

[silverse]

Mike
Marine corps
Field Mechanic/special ops
graduated from Lincoln Technical institute

[Ajaxus]

Mike
Marine corps
Field Mechanic/special ops
graduated from Lincoln Technical institute

I think you got the wrong thread mike..lol

I'm thinking this is the one you wanted: http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65556

but like I said in the Indiana thread, we need to talk sometime man..cause my plan right now is to join the Corps in 2 years after I finish college up.

[rennation]

Technically I am Air Force Reserves right now...I'm in AFROTC at U of M...so hopefully in 3 years I'll be a 2nd Lt. in the Air Force. I wanna get a pilot slot but if I dont its not the end of the world.

[Grand_Damn]

For those that want to be a Intel specialist...your gonna have to get a SECRET (or higher) clearance....i know a few that had to change MOS due to not getting the clearance (i did both the actual intel part and worked on clearances).


for Army, (this was for Ft. Jackson) you need to run a mile in 8 min, 30 seconds, do 13 push-ups (not timed), and do 17 sit-ups (not timed) for Reception....pass 50% of your age group for Basic Training (though some places do 60%, Ft. Jackson was 50%)...and 60% for AIT ...here's a link to the APFT chart: http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/a/afpt.htm

and if you fail the reception one, you get sent to Fitness Training (or whatever its called) to get you into shape and you get to do the test once a week...if you fail basic training's final PT test, you get couple more tries (up the day before graduation) and if still no-go, you get tossed to another company that's doing the PT tests....same goes for AIT...


Army (Ft. Jackson) final big thing is "Victory Forge"...where you go out to this site, dig and make your foxhole, do field excersises, then do a 5k march back to the barracks. Marines final thing is the Crucibal...dont really know what happens though.


Also, if you want to join the Army (or any but mostly Army) now, expect to be deployed within a year or two....

[Dj Red E]

For anyone who is unsure but still wants to join, only do a 3 year contract. Its a good time length to get a real feel for how you well you like/dislike it. At my 2 year mark i was almost about to reup, but by 2 yrs 6 mo. i couldnt wait till my ets date came so i could go home. I dont know what i would have done if i had signed for 4. In short 2 year contracts your in and out and only get a prtion of gi bill benefits. 3 yrs or more gets you full education benefits, but you may hate life if you dont like it and signed for 6 years.

And in the Army you can join for SF, but its a long process, you do 11b(infantry school), then you go to a pre selection course ( i forget what its called off hand, but ive watched them training and its pretty sh*tty) after that you go to selection. Then only if they choose you, you start real sf training. So if you have a crap attitude and they dont like you, theyll let you finish selection and tell you they dont want you. and if you fail any way along the way you get sent to whatever infantry unit needs you, which sucks big one. Get a normal job, and put in a packet to go to SF Selection once you get your unit, this way if you fail, (and based on statistics you have a good chance to)you only go back to where you chose to be in the first place, doing the job you chose. Plus your unit should assist in better preparing you for selection.

[Shadowfaxgt1]

Army is the only branch that will write your mos in your contract... all other services... they pick where they want you...

Not true....you can select and AFSC and have it on your contract...at least they did.

[grandam01]

^^^

I agree I was 1 year AD for Air Force spent a nice bit of summer in san antonio texas for AF basic military training. Before I even stepped foot in MEPS I had picked my AFSC, or MOS for you Army guys. I was broadcast journalism, the voice and face for AFN, on my way to kaiserslautern, but i am not going to get into why the government can suck it and why a "good airman" is at home but a dirt bag airman is still in with only a slap on the wrist.

[Falke401]

Name: Dustin
Service interested in: Air Force
Target MOS: Intel, Comm
Level of Education Completed: Associates Degree in Business Information Systems

I am in the DEP right now waiting on a job in either intel or comm.