Meguires Swirl Remover 2.0 (aka #9)

[backwash]

I tried this product yesterday using a Lake County orange pad on my PC. I applied a layer at speed 3 then brought it up to 6 to work it in. This product did nothing for me. I saw no signifcant reduction in swirls or fine scratches. Has anyone else tried this product and had good results? Perhaps I am using it wrong? I washed, clayed, then washed again to remove any contaminents. Is there another product anyone would recommend? I've heard good things about Meguires #80.

Im trying to use over the counter products as much as possible.

Thanks.

[Metallman56]

Coupe is going to tell you Megs 83, 80, and 82 in that order. i have not used them yet, but if the weather holds, this weekend is looking great.

[geldartb]

i just got done using megs #83, #80, #82 in that specific order on my car, being that its my first time and im still getting the knack of using them down its not perfect but id say its 95% better than it was. tomorrow when its not raining i bring the car out and take some pics.

then i put on by hand megs #7 polish and #26 to seal it off.

find coupes posts very informative, smart guy when it comes to waxing\polishing.

[coupe]

I tried this product yesterday using a Lake County orange pad on my PC. I applied a layer at speed 3 then brought it up to 6 to work it in. This product did nothing for me. I saw no signifcant reduction in swirls or fine scratches. Has anyone else tried this product and had good results? Perhaps I am using it wrong? I washed, clayed, then washed again to remove any contaminents. Is there another product anyone would recommend? I've heard good things about Meguires #80.

Im trying to use over the counter products as much as possible.

Thanks.

The reason it isnt working for you is becuase it is so mild/fine cut.
You just need a stronger polish.
If you wanna stick with megs i suggest 83 and 80. You can ussually find them at Carquest and *some* Napas. They both can order them for you if they dont have them instock.

BTW, #9 and #82 have the same cut so you wont need to pick up #82 since you already have #9.

If you wanna try a different brand i suggest Optimum.

[coupe]

Any luck?

[backwash]

Any luck?

I'm actually going to Carquest tonight to see if they have what I need. I tried a little bit of Klasse All-in-one on my hood. just because its been looking at me all winter. I used my LC white pad and It did good job and seemed to help a little with the swirls but I noticed that I have some slight buffer trails on the hood.

I will be compounding the car soon anyways so I am not worried about the trails but in the future what techiniques/speeds should I be using with the Klasse? Once I use a sealer/glaze would the trails disappear?

Thanks for the advice guys.

[nascarnate326]

Coupe you are like the paint/detail czar of this forum. I admire you.

[backwash]

I went to carquest and picked up #4 (heavy cut cleaner) and #1 (medium cut cleaner). Which of these are equivilant to #83?

[coupe]

I went to carquest and picked up #4 (heavy cut cleaner) and #1 (medium cut cleaner). Which of these are equivilant to #83?

Those are more for rotary work but some have had success, these are basicly compounds with no polish in them.

Scale 1 being the lowest abbrasive and 10 being the most.

Cleaner/polishes
#83 is a 6 on the abbrasive scale.
#80 is a 4 on the abbrasive scale.
#82 is a 3 on the abbrasive scale.

Cleaner/Compounds
#1 is a 7 on the abbrasive scale.
#4 is a 8 on the abbrasive scale.
#2 is a 5 on the abbrasive scale.


Your gonna get some massive micro marring with #4, should be ok if you follow up with #1 and a polishing pad and then finish with #9 and a finishing pad.

[coupe]

Coupe you are like the paint/detail czar of this forum. I admire you.

Im really not that good but thanks for the compliment!

[backwash]

Those are more for rotary work but some have had success, these are basicly compounds with no polish in them.

Your gonna get some massive micro marring with #4, should be ok if you follow up with #1 and a polishing pad and then finish with #9 and a finishing pad.

The swirls and fine scratches on my car are not that bad. I've always used the two bucket method and dried with clean microfibre towels. I'm not looking for utter perfection since this is my daily driver. Can I just use #1 then follow it up with #9?

How does this order sound?

1 ) #1 Medium-cut cleaner + LC orange pad
2) # 9 Swirl remover 2.0 + LC orange pad
3) Klasse AIO + LC white pad
4) Mothers sealer and glaze + LC black pad

Thanks again for all your help Coupe.

[coupe]

The swirls and fine scratches on my car are not that bad. I've always used the two bucket method and dried with clean microfibre towels. I'm not looking for utter perfection since this is my daily driver. Can I just use #1 then follow it up with #9?

How does this order sound?

1 ) #1 Medium-cut cleaner + LC orange pad
2) # 9 Swirl remover 2.0 + LC orange pad
3) Klasse AIO + LC white pad
4) Mothers sealer and glaze + LC black pad

Thanks again for all your help Coupe.


I would do this:

1 ) #1 Medium-cut cleaner + LC orange pad
2) # 9 Swirl remover 2.0 + LC white pad
3) Klasse AIO + LC white pad
4) Mothers sealer and glaze + LC black pad


After you *cut* with #1 and the orange light cutting pad you dont need to *cut* again so step it down to #9 and LC white polishing pad.

Remember to do a test section first, whatever works on the test section repeat on the entire car.

Let us know how it goes, im hoping it is a success for you. Nothing is more frustrating when it isnt, believe me i know lol

[Pinnacle]

This stuff did nothing for me aswell

[backwash]

Yesterday I did a full detail on my mothers Acura CL because she is selling it soon. I washed, clayed (she hit a patch of road tar what a PITA), then began with the #1 medium cut with an orange pad. This product has a very gritty feel to it when rubbed between your fingers. It did a good job of removing most of the swirls and almost all of the light scratches on her car. It did however dust a fair bit. What can I do to keep the dust down?

I followed it up like Coupe suggested with #9 on an LC white pad. This is definately what #9 is for. It removed the slight haze that the #1 left behind and did a good job of filling in any remaining scratches. After that a coat of Mother's 2nd stage sealer and glaze with the black polishing pad. This left a nice depth to the paint and the metal flake really popped afterwords.

So Meg's #1 works well in my application but dusts like a bastard and #9 works much better after an initial compounding phase.

Thanks again for everyones help/suggestions.

[coupe]

Yesterday I did a full detail on my mothers Acura CL because she is selling it soon. I washed, clayed (she hit a patch of road tar what a PITA), then began with the #1 medium cut with an orange pad. This product has a very gritty feel to it when rubbed between your fingers. It did a good job of removing most of the swirls and almost all of the light scratches on her car. It did however dust a fair bit. What can I do to keep the dust down?

I followed it up like Coupe suggested with #9 on an LC white pad. This is definately what #9 is for. It removed the slight haze that the #1 left behind and did a good job of filling in any remaining scratches. After that a coat of Mother's 2nd stage sealer and glaze with the black polishing pad. This left a nice depth to the paint and the metal flake really popped afterwords.

So Meg's #1 works well in my application but dusts like a bastard and #9 works much better after an initial compounding phase.

Thanks again for everyones help/suggestions.


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The reason it feels so gritty is becuase they are meant for rotary work and what you are feeling is the deminishing abbrasives, they are HUGE. The reason they are so big is becuase a rotary can break them down super fast and the PC cannot. They will work via PC but it takes *alot* of time to break them down, just gotta have patience.

The haze after the initial heavy compounding phase is called micro-marring. Basicly what you did was cut away a good amount of clear coat. The by-product of removeing the deeper imperfections by removing a fair amount of CC is they get replaced with millions of smaller scratches (micro-marring). Most people freak out after this first step becuase they dont realize that it is supposed to do this and that their next less aggresive step will clear it up to perfection.

Dusting- Normal. There really isnt anything you can do about it and every polish/compound i know of does it, nature of the beast. Sure does make a mess though. The only polish/compounds that *i* know of that does not dust is the Optimum polish/compounds.

[coupe]

I will be compounding the car soon anyways so I am not worried about the trails but in the future what techiniques/speeds should I be using with the Klasse? Once I use a sealer/glaze would the trails disappear?

Thanks for the advice guys.


I missed this question lol

Klasse AIO is a chemical cleaner. It wont *remove* imperfections. I would apply it with either a polishing pad or a finishing pad. If the vehicle is getting a multi stage polishing then i would apply it with a finishing pad. If the car is just getting a claybar and no polishing then i would use a polishing pad. Apply at speeds 3-4 tops.

The only way to remove buffer trails is to polish them out. If they arent that bad #9 and a polishing pad *should* remove them completely. If they are more sever and you cannot remove them with that combo then you may need to get more aggresive, so basicly step up to your next more aggresive combination. Just remember to always finish your work with a fine cut polish and a polishing pad or finishing pad. In your case that would be #9 and a polishing pad or finishing pad.

[coupe]

This stuff did nothing for me aswell

You may have the same problem backwash did. Its not aggresive enough to remove anything that is to deep. Its best used for cleaning up compounding haze (micro-marring).

What tools and technique's did you use?

[Pinnacle]

You may have the same problem backwash did. Its not aggresive enough to remove anything that is to deep. Its best used for cleaning up compounding haze (micro-marring).

What tools and technique's did you use?

Didnt use tools just applied it to the scratch and rubed in a circular motion, I did this on my 2005 Grand prix with that crazy 3 tone paint color they have