Official GTO Pics - No Longer Embargoed! [Archive]

GrafxWerks

01-03-2003, 09:23 AM

Here they are...

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO1.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO2.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO3.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO4.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO5.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO6.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO7.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO8.jpg

- Ryan

peeps

01-03-2003, 09:25 AM

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7058

Too late Ryan! :thumbs:

GrafxWerks

01-03-2003, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by peeps
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7058

Too late Ryan! :thumbs:
Not really, when you consider that I dont have to squint to see these ones :)

- Ryan

peeps

01-03-2003, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by GrafxWerks

Not really, when you consider that I dont have to squint to see these ones :)

- Ryan LOL....Just kidding Ryan! You also have some that aren't shown on the other, so keep up that awesome Canadian effort!

GrafxWerks

01-03-2003, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by peeps
... keep up that awesome Canadian effort!
Hey now, dont go bringin' my "race" into this! :rolleyes:

I'm goin' back to bed! :p

- Ryan

GreatGraySkwid

01-03-2003, 09:33 AM

:wow:

Me WANT!

Thanks, Ryan!

Macleod52

01-03-2003, 09:36 AM

Okay, at first I thought it was going to be ugly, but now I have seen the light :) I want so bad!!!!! That car is frickin gorgeous... I think they did an excellent job... I just wish I had a lot of $$$ so I could buy one :( I think I'm falling in love...

GrafxWerks

01-03-2003, 09:38 AM

It'd be sweet to buy that car and then retrofit a genuine Holden front end on it. IMO the Holden version looks nicer, and you'd have a unique (but not riced) looking car. The Holdens are very tasteful, simple, elegant. You look at that car and its just not a Pontiac!

Not that it matters, since they aren't shipping them north of the border. wtf

- Ryan

shawn2ktats

01-03-2003, 09:46 AM

power:thumbs: styling:(

GrafxWerks

01-03-2003, 09:47 AM

Here's what you probably haven't seen...

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO9.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO10.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO11.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO12.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO13.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO14.jpg

http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO15.jpg

- Ryan

GrafxWerks

01-03-2003, 09:51 AM

Little blurb about the show cars:

Sporting a special high-gloss paint in red or yellow, the GTO show cars exhibit the strong Pontiac brand character with a signature dual-port grille and a wide aggressive stance. The vehicles ride on 18-inch alloy wheels. They also sport a high-performance powertrain that makes the vehicle worthy of the "GTO" name.

Under the hood is a specially tuned LS1 5.7-liter V-8 aluminum-block engine currently estimated at 340 horsepower @ 5200 rpm, 360 lbs.-ft. of torque at 4000 rpm with an appropriately tuned Pontiac exhaust note. While sharing the same basic engine configuration with the base-level Chevrolet Corvette, the LS1 engine in the GTO has been modified with a high-lift camshaft and increased airflow induction to create greater horsepower and low-end torque than the Holden Monaro to address the needs of U.S. drivers.

All that power is mated to either an electronically controlled Hydra-Matic 4L60-E four-speed automatic transmission or the six-speed, close ratio manual transmission available on the Corvette ZO6. Both transmissions feature the same low-geared 3.46 final drive axle ratio in a rear-wheel-drive configuration to maximize off-the-line performance, a limited slip differential, and a three-channel traction control system designed to help enhance vehicle control.

Although performance testing on the vehicle has not been completed, the production model GTO is expected have a zero-to-60 acceleration time of less than 6 seconds and run the quarter-mile in approximately 14 seconds at a speed of 105 mph. The top speed of the vehicle is estimated to be about 160 mph.

- Ryan

peeps

01-03-2003, 09:51 AM

Left hand drive with a metric guage cluster? Are you sure that isn't the Canadian version? Everywhere else that uses metric has right hand drive, correct?

GrafxWerks

01-03-2003, 09:54 AM

RedGrandTour

01-03-2003, 09:58 AM

Looks very nice. It almost looks like a Dodge Avenger from the side. :D How come the GTO can have a spoiler that goes over the side. Unlike the SC/T spoiler that GM cut off before they sold it to the public? I really like the front too. I wonder what the price will start at.

:thumbs:

GrafxWerks

01-03-2003, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by RedGrandTour
How come the GTO can have a spoiler that goes over the side. Unlike the SC/T spoiler that GM cut off before they sold it to the public?
Cuz the GTO doesnt have an antenna on the rear 1/4 to hit the spoiler :) The SC/T cars had shaved antennas, hence the wider spoiler was ok.

- Ryan

Spoon

01-03-2003, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by GrafxWerks

Yeah... I'm not sure whats up with that.

- Ryan What's up is this is one of the early Manaros that they used for a mock up. They were all RH drive when they showed up.

Tonyyank

01-03-2003, 10:15 AM

I got something wet in my pants :eek:

badassgrandam99

01-03-2003, 10:47 AM

...i see two tips, but it doesn't have dual exhaust.. it's only got the exhaust on the driver's side... i thought for sure it'd have pipes coming on both sides of the rear bumper...

Mike3800

01-03-2003, 10:49 AM

I officially predict that they will not stay on the lots for long if any make it there without being pre-ordered. The car guys at GM right now apparently have their hands tied behind their backs and are gagged with duct tape and the bean counters are in control, but, if the GTO is actually advertized (quick: name your favorite F-body commercial over the past 5 years!! hmmmm.... why did no one buy them?) it will sell like hotcakes, and the limited production will sell out pretty fast.

cwcole

01-03-2003, 10:49 AM

Why the dual side exhuast...I like the quad?

resevil83

01-03-2003, 10:49 AM

i like the car a lot too... The front, I'd have to see the original version becuase I'm not a fan of this front. It almost looks like an older ga front plus a camaro front... not my taste but other than that the rest of the car is sweeeeeet

GregFarz78

01-03-2003, 10:56 AM

Is GM trying to make larger and larger head units...WTF is this a triple DIN?
http://www.n-body.net/currie/GTO/GTO5.jpg

Looks kinda like a GP in the front I like the projector head lights though, the rear end is tight too...and finally for once it doesnt have that god awful GM wheel gap :thumbs:

SilverGA2001

01-03-2003, 11:09 AM

I was excited about seeing the real pics. Now I'm not so hot on it. The rear quarters are screwy looking and I'm entirely turned off by the rear of the car. Looks like a Tiberon to me. Nope, I'm not so enthused now. And the exhaust... there's a cutout in the bumper, so it won't even look right with duals. :( I'll be morning the F Body just a bit more now.

GTPguy99

01-03-2003, 11:12 AM

badassgrandam99

01-03-2003, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Mike3800
I officially predict that they will not stay on the lots for long if any make it there without being pre-ordered. The car guys at GM right now apparently have their hands tied behind their backs and are gagged with duct tape and the bean counters are in control, but, if the GTO is actually advertized (quick: name your favorite F-body commercial over the past 5 years!! hmmmm.... why did no one buy them?) it will sell like hotcakes, and the limited production will sell out pretty fast.

...if the bean counters were completely in control like they were in the 80's, then you wouldn't see this car, you wouldn't see V-Series Cadillac's, or GXP Pontiac's... it is also rumoured that the Solstice will be going into production... GM is on a comeback, but they have to be careful... the demise of the F-body did occur due to the bean counters, but that was a few years back...

...and my favorite F-body commercial was the Trans Am that devoured the car at the traffic light... :)

AMRAAM4

01-03-2003, 11:23 AM

Don't know how to say this so you guys might look at the car a bit more objectively, but...

...am I one of the few on this thread it seems to think the car is a disappointment????? Wheels...UGLY. I'll take my 18" Eagle Alloys on their thank you. No dual exhaust? Long, cheap looking plastic air inlet under the grill.

I can't even explain how I see the car. It's kinda skinny looking, not very wide tires and stance for a V8 with that power. Front end reminds me of a cavalier bottom-grandprix upper (headlights/grill), side of the car like a acura integra, roof and C-pillar like a sunfire, tail end-once again-like a slightly modified acura integra.

Nice car, but I am not gonna jump all over just because it is a new model. More picks needed to judge if it warrants "awesome". Right now it is just a "nice" car

waffler

01-03-2003, 11:31 AM

and it only has a 14second 1/4!

jaketuff

01-03-2003, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by badassgrandam99

...and my favorite F-body commercial was the Trans Am that devoured the car at the traffic light... :)

Mine too... ;) Awesome marketing, rather than this "Pass it along" crap....

The F-bod was also far out of date. The chassis was in much need of evolution. The new chassis coming out will give rebirth to GM RWD performance... but until they evolve the Camaro name it will always be a bit sad seeing anything to do with GM Performance without the real pony car.

Monaro/GTO... nice, but it is not the raw brutal power of a T/A, Z28. They have a BMW want to be, but it is a rwd v8 sports/lux sedan!!! About time again. Thanks Bob!

Pat

jaketuff

01-03-2003, 12:00 PM

And what's this... NO RAM AIR?!!!! It has the perfect setup for it, with the front mounted TB.... Should make for a sweet ramairhood... ;)

Pat

Doug

01-03-2003, 04:34 PM

I like the exhaust tips. And I think once the public gets a hold of it they will get a lot better times out of it. Hopefully its underated like the f-bodys were. That'd be tite.

SilverGA2001

01-03-2003, 05:19 PM

Someone tell the Aussie's that we spell it Liter here. No side badge of mine will ever say 5.7 Litre! :D

SPL

01-03-2003, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by resevil83
i like the car a lot too... The front, I'd have to see the original version becuase I'm not a fan of this front. It almost looks like an older ga front plus a camaro front... not my taste but other than that the rest of the car is sweeeeeet

check them out here http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/gallery?navid=5&catid=1004

resevil83

01-04-2003, 12:43 AM

that front looks much better than what the have on there now... that'd be the first thing I'd change

Gimli

01-04-2003, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by peeps
Left hand drive with a metric guage cluster? Are you sure that isn't the Canadian version? Everywhere else that uses metric has right hand drive, correct?

Actually, I don't know any country but in the US where they still use the imperial system in cars and such.

BTW I've heard reports now from some dealers in Canada that GM might import about 500 GTOs the first year to test the market and decide from there if it's gonna be available more widely after that.

You what would be really good? If the car sells out and they decide to keep them coming in North America they could use the Camaro plant in Ste.Therese to build them. That might even make them bring the Camaro and Firebird back to use the RWD plant better. That'd be a good reason to modernize the plant and I could see all these cars being built on the same platform (with VERY different bodies). Maybe get a new Caddy in there too and the plant wouldn't be losing money anymore...

Dreamer, I'm nothing but a dreamer... :p

Spoon

01-04-2003, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Gimli

Actually, I don't know any country but in the US where they still use the imperial system in cars and such.

BTW I've heard reports now from some dealers in Canada that GM might import about 500 GTOs the first year to test the market and decide from there if it's gonna be available more widely after that.

You what would be really good? If the car sells out and they decide to keep them coming in North America they could use the Camaro plant in Ste.Therese to build them. That might even make them bring the Camaro and Firebird back to use the RWD plant better. That'd be a good reason to modernize the plant and I could see all these cars being built on the same platform (with VERY different bodies). Maybe get a new Caddy in there too and the plant wouldn't be losing money anymore...

Dreamer, I'm nothing but a dreamer... :p The now expire F platform was suppose to share the same architecture as the new CTS before it's demise. Rather unlikely that your dream will ever see the light of day, but never say never!:)

VTECSiGAH8R

01-04-2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Gimli

Actually, I don't know any country but in the US where they still use the imperial system in cars and such.

Yeah, it kinda sux that we use imperial still seeing as it is costing us money because of how we have to convert stuff when we do calculations in science. One occasion we lost more than $100 million I believe, sending a spacecraft to mars with the wrong damn coversions :rage: However, it would also cost us a ****load to change every highway sign to metric and every gas station to metric and everything to metric, plus American people like being different, so it probably won't change.

SilverGA2001

01-04-2003, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Spoon
but never say never!:)

Wait, you said hood scoops would never happen... so does this mean, logically, there's hope? :D

:thumbs:

Esmond

01-04-2003, 03:54 PM

I really like the GTO. I think it'll be very successful.
I very much like the design and styling of the car.
The interior looks top notch and of very high quality.

The only thing i'm a bit less enthusiastic about is that the front end is not AGGRESSIVE enough for my tastes. Even the current GA GT is more aggressive in my opinion.

But that's fine. This car is meant to be for the more mature crowd who wants a refined looking car. Just like BMW owners. I'm only 23...so i wont be able to afford this car for quite some time. For those who can afford it (mostly 30+ year old people) will like it very much. In my opinion anyway.

:)

waffler

01-04-2003, 08:39 PM

the car looks exactly like they showed in the drawings so we shouldnt be surprised at how it looks

Jason E

01-05-2003, 01:06 AM

Hey, I think its gorgeous...I won't trade my F body for one, but it is a beautiful car. To answer a couple questions I saw above...

1) Price will be 30-35,000
2) With any hope, the car will be redone within a few years and based off a new, GM North America designed platform, thereby allowing more than 20k units per year to be made.
3) They can advertise it as a halo car for Pontiac, but they don't even need to...20k units will sell in no time.
4) Assuming I play my cards right and order one early enough, I will be the first person on this board to drive one :clap:

Vintalage

01-05-2003, 12:20 PM

some of the pics included in this thread plus more can be found here:

http://www.acura-cl.org/silverbullet/gto.html

Kitt

01-05-2003, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by SilverGA2001

Wait, you said hood scoops would never happen... so does this mean, logically, there's hope? :D

:thumbs:

Aftermarket/custom :thumbs:

SilverGA2001

01-05-2003, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Kitt

Aftermarket/custom :thumbs:

Obviously my post was misunderstood. Spoon said to never say never, but in a previous post said hood scoops would never happen. I was just being sarcastic. :rolleyes:

Without a doubt, there'll be custom hoods for the GTO. :wave:

Vintalage

01-05-2003, 07:02 PM

guess we can't bash on imports anymore, cause this car is well... an import. But it's an americanized import! :)

Formula88

01-05-2003, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by SilverGA2001
Someone tell the Aussie's that we spell it Liter here. No side badge of mine will ever say 5.7 Litre! :D

That's how it was spelled on the original GTO's back in the '60's. That fender badge is a remake of the original 64 GTO fender badge, only it said 6.5 Litre. (389)

Looks like every other Pontiac out there. I like the interior (radio looks a bit orthopedic, though), and it's nice to have another V8 RWD Pontiac, but all the styling of the cars is blending together too much. Look at the pic of the GXP show cars. With the all painted the same color, you can't tell the Grand Am from the Grand Prix from the Bonneville unless you just go by physical size. Their isn't much to distinguish one model from another.

The GTO looks like a good car. I just wish the styling was more distinctive. And it should have dual exhaust and Ram Air. But it's independant rear suspension is a nice improvement over the Firebird's live axle. Still, you never mistook a Firebird for a Grand Am. :)

Molson

01-06-2003, 12:22 AM

Play the New GTO Featurette on the XXX DVD.. Looks better when its moving in video. :thumbs:

Vintalage

01-06-2003, 02:11 PM

but don't you guys think that the GTO's looks wins hands down to the 2004 grand prix GTP, inside and out? The interior of the 2004 gp is boring and bland to me. The console area has a terrible design. Maybe worse than the 97+ designs?

Tonyyank

01-06-2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Vintalage
but don't you guys think that the GTO's looks wins hands down to the 2004 grand prix GTP, inside and out? The interior of the 2004 gp is boring and bland to me. The console area has a terrible design. Maybe worse than the 97+ designs?

Definatly WAY better then the 04 GP!!! By far!!

I love this car SOOOO much :thumbs:

SilverGA2001

01-06-2003, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Vintalage
but don't you guys think that the GTO's looks wins hands down to the 2004 grand prix GTP, inside and out? The interior of the 2004 gp is boring and bland to me. The console area has a terrible design. Maybe worse than the 97+ designs?

To be honest, I hate the outside of the GTO, and I know I'll never buy one now. The GTP with the Competition Package though, I could see that. :)

grandGTR

01-07-2003, 04:16 PM

LOL what is the problem here Tonyyank?

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7261

grandGTR

01-07-2003, 04:19 PM

you know taking someone elses pictures and slaping your log on them does not make them yours. lol

Anyway just thought that was funny to see, but that car is very nice. IS this real or just a concept?

bTW you guys hear about the reports for the auto show coming up and cattys 1000Hp v16 car? lol they said it is an all out performance year. :)

Xride

01-07-2003, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Vintalage
guess we can't bash on imports anymore, cause this car is well... an import. But it's an americanized import! :)

all the Fbodies in the states are imports, they were made in Canada.

them wheels are awsome, i want them.

MattBatt

01-28-2003, 10:20 AM

I love the fact that this is one of the few cars that GM has introduced lately that has curves. I mean go figure everyone knows that a square caddy CTS cuts through the air like knife.:D

I love it and wish I had one but the bumper is a little to passive and when you look at it from the side the hood line doesn't follow to the window sill line and to the trunk line. Its a completly different angle that just stops at the A pillar. I'm no car designer I just know one of the things that makes MY GA beautiful is the fact that the same line goes from headlight to tail light. Just one of those things.

As for the Radio taking up so much real-estate on the dash I'm sure you could fit a cd player and a 7inch monitor in there and I mean what car audio nut wouldn't want more room for toys!:wave: my $.02

Where the hell is the cents key on the keyboard What moron Put this ~key on keyboard instead of a Cents key.

Vintalage

01-28-2003, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by MattBatt
As for the Radio taking up so much real-estate on the dash I'm sure you could fit a cd player and a 7inch monitor in there and I mean what car audio nut wouldn't want more room for toys!:wave: my $.02

I think that radio was carried over from australia cause it doesn't look like any of the delco/delphi radios used in pontiac cars.

TypeRob

02-01-2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by peeps
Left hand drive with a metric guage cluster? Are you sure that isn't the Canadian version? Everywhere else that uses metric has right hand drive, correct?

Canadian Version? As far as I know, there probably won't be one for 4-5 years after it's American release... if there's any Canadian release at all...

They probably just kept it metric when they were redisigning the Holden Monaro.