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[ChaosweaveR]
02-01-2012, 07:09 PM
Okay, the past week my car has been giving an oddly weak start. It's not consistent, but it doesn't help that I have a miss at WOT between 4200-4600rpms. Plugs are going to be changed in a few months, but what could be the source of a weak start? Battery is fine, cranking voltage is good, and the alternator is charging the battery properly. Signs of an ailing starter? Crank or cam sensor? I only have troublecodes for my annoying P0420 code, and the misfire at WOT.

unchained_01
02-01-2012, 07:19 PM
Have you taken the starter and had it tested or checked the ground at the starter ? BTW. How old is grand ma ? Lol

[ChaosweaveR]
02-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Have you taken the starter and had it tested or checked the ground at the starter ? BTW. How old is grand ma ? Lol

Never tested the starter directly.

It's a 2003, with 152K on the clock.

unchained_01
02-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Yeah Chris I would have it checked. Any of the big box part stores. Do it for free.

[ChaosweaveR]
02-01-2012, 08:18 PM
How exactly? There's almost zero access to the starter from the engine bay...and I really don't feel like yanking out the damn thing unless it's getting replaced.

HOYS
02-01-2012, 08:33 PM
;1171444']How exactly? There's almost zero access to the starter from the engine bay...and I really don't feel like yanking out the damn thing unless it's getting replaced.

You have to take it off...

Two bolts for the inspection/access overs (12mm)

Two bolts holding it to the block (15mm)

Two wires with one 13mm nut

One wire with a 8mm nut...

10 minutes.

[ChaosweaveR]
02-01-2012, 08:39 PM
You have to take it off...

Two bolts for the inspection/access overs (12mm)

Two bolts holding it to the block (15mm)

Two wires with one 13mm nut

One wire with a 8mm nut...

10 minutes.

That doesn't fix my case of not giving a fock. lol

But seriously, if it's the starter, I'll deal. I get wholesale prices on parts, and have access to a lift at work. It does have 152K on the starter, so I'm not exactly surprised it's a possibility. lol

unchained_01
02-01-2012, 08:41 PM
Yeah you have gotten alot of life out of it it's the only one it's had.

[ChaosweaveR]
02-01-2012, 08:50 PM
Yeah you have gotten alot of life out of it it's the only one it's had.

Yup, original. Has that distinct original Delco sound on startup. lol

The starter has the Delco tags on it as well, and I never saw work for starter replacement in the car's work history in the small amount of paperwork that came with it.

locoman99
02-01-2012, 09:11 PM
I have seen this before. Perhaps the ignition switch is not being turned with enough force to start the car. One fast test you can do is find soneone with less limp wrist to start the car and see if that causes it to start quicker.

BJPbrandon2448
02-01-2012, 09:26 PM
LMFAO!!!:applause:

Its Chaos vs. Zuki all over again!!! the hilarious insults back and forth will now officially begin!!!

westerndragon
02-08-2012, 06:22 PM
if its a weak crank but your holding a batt charge its 90% your starter because if it were the alt your batt would drain away just replace the starter i think i paid 60$ for a new on and its pretty simple to change out

sleepyalero
02-08-2012, 07:27 PM
i got you beat with 176k on stock starter ;)

hope that fixes your problem

[ChaosweaveR]
04-13-2012, 08:19 AM
Might as well update:

It was the starter. Died in the middle of February. $130 and a week later, it lived again. Luckily, my mom acquired a new/used car, so I wasn't stuck driving the 94 Sentra death trap. lol Instead I cruised around in an 03 PT Cruiser Limited. Leather, heated seats, power everything, very nice sound system...I didn't mind at all. lol

rocketfast123
04-13-2012, 08:31 AM
Death traps build character

[ChaosweaveR]
04-13-2012, 08:36 AM
Death traps build character

Bah, this one was past it's prime or entertainment value. lol

street_fire
04-13-2012, 10:16 AM
i got you beat with 176k on stock starter ;)

hope that fixes your problem

Lol got u beat. 212k on stock starter lol plus a bonus I still got the stock gaskets.

[ChaosweaveR]
04-13-2012, 10:24 AM
That's in kilometers.

So in reality that's about 86,000 miles.

geldartb
04-13-2012, 10:27 AM
;1175406']That's in kilometers.

So in reality that's about 86,000 miles.

around 132k miles

afterdeath07
04-13-2012, 10:31 AM
Lol got u beat. 212k on stock starter lol plus a bonus I still got the stock gaskets.

bam 207000 miles :angel now watch it die

[ChaosweaveR]
04-13-2012, 10:49 AM
around 132k miles

My post was not in seriousness.

street_fire
04-13-2012, 11:00 AM
lol meh still high for us Canadians lol

[ChaosweaveR]
04-13-2012, 11:09 AM
>Canada

The moose usually do out live the cars.