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EJ01GAGT
01-14-2014, 08:31 PM
Wassup guys got a bit of a problem Sunday on my way to work I hit a patch of black ice in a round a bout and slid into a curb trashed my passenger side rim and now I have noticeably positive camber going to get a new rim and tire tomorrow and get an alignment soon after any suggestions on tackling this? Thanks in advance.

AaronGTR
01-15-2014, 08:51 AM
Well, obviously something is damaged or the struts shifted or something. Either just the wheel is bent or something in the suspension. Is it the front wheel or the back? We can't really be any help without pictures, a better description of what it's doing, or more information on the problem. Your question is extremely vague. We need specifics.

sleepyalero
01-15-2014, 09:25 AM
Im sure you will be fine after an alignment.

TDavis
01-15-2014, 11:56 AM
You hit some black ice on STL on Sunday? It was like 66 degrees and sunny, there shouldn't of been any black ice lol

EJ01GAGT
01-15-2014, 02:33 PM
You hit some black ice on STL on Sunday? It was like 66 degrees and sunny, there shouldn't of been any black ice lol

It was very early morning and yes its the front passenger side tire the rim is trashed i put the rim from the back onto the front and the same issue.

xUnderCoverHoBo
01-15-2014, 11:20 PM
Black ice in 60's man come to minnesota you will truly learn how ur car handles.

Starglow
01-16-2014, 06:05 AM
It was very early morning and yes its the front passenger side tire the rim is trashed i put the rim from the back onto the front and the same issue.

You could have bent the tie rod, control arm, or strut tower. Hard to say without seeing any pictures, but a competent alignment shop should be able to figure it out.

However, what I've been noticing at several repair shops lately is they have many different technicians doing the alignments now instead of one guy who may be an alignment and suspension specialist. So while a technician may be trained to do basic alignments, they may not have enough training or experience to properly diagnose more complex suspension or alignment issues.

EJ01GAGT
01-16-2014, 08:25 AM
Depending on the damage might b getting a new car tired of dumping money in it

plastic_indian
01-16-2014, 08:41 PM
However, what I've been noticing at several repair shops lately is they have many different technicians doing the alignments now instead of one guy who may be an alignment and suspension specialist. So while a technician may be trained to do basic alignments, they may not have enough training or experience to properly diagnose more complex suspension or alignment issues.

This is unfortunately true, and, in my perception, due to several factors:

The prevailing 'instant gratification' culture tends to compel the service desk to assign work to an available but possibly less ideal technician for fear of losing the job when a customer doesn't want to wait. This isn't very good reasoning, but tends to be reality.

Advertising pressure from the tire shop segment of the service industry is keeping alignment pricing artificially low; alignments are discounted or 'free' with a set of tires, and the consumer has responded to this with the expectation that all alignments *should* be a low- or no-cost service. Even the insurance industry has adopted this mindset (State Farm currently factors $94 for alignment, even in the event impact damage has necessitated replacement of multiple suspension components; the service desk will end up going through the supplement request process to finally get fairly paid for a cradle shift.).

What many vehicle service consumers are not aware of, however, is that typical tire shop alignments are nothing more than a toe set (the old Toe-N-Go routine) to prevent customers coming back with damaged new tires. The technicians performing this service in the tire shop environment are often less than highly skilled, and therefore less well paid, so the profit model can survive.

When an enthusiast car or a car with damage enters the picture, however, proper alignment requires a skilled (better paid) technician and considerably more time to properly measure all aspects of the alignment and make many adjustments; $69.95 no longer covers the cost of paying the technician. With complex, four corner multilink suspensions becoming commonplace, even plebeian daily drivers require alignments as involved as an enthusiast car. A good service writer and a receptive vehicle owner will discuss this reality, and probably complete a proper alignment billed as flat rate or time involved at regular hourly labor rate; a poor service writer and/or a customer unwilling to be educated often ends up as a canned-price TnG.

Moral of the rant: if you want a proper, complete alignment, use a qualified shop, be willing to leave the vehicle or schedule when the ideal technician is available, and be willing pay more.

EJ01GAGT
01-17-2014, 08:31 AM
Well took it to midas they said i needed a strut i bought a strut replaced it same issue now im broke and driving my fiancÚ's civic

sleepyalero
01-17-2014, 08:58 AM
sounds like they just did that to make a sale. i would have gone to a few places and see if everyone suggested the same thing.

were you able to look at your old strut? have you even taken the car to get the alignment checked?

AaronGTR
01-17-2014, 09:12 AM
I'd take it back to them and tell them they didn't fix the problem and have them look at it again or demand your money back.

sassyness77
01-17-2014, 12:30 PM
I would stop for an alignment first, not sure on other shops, but ours we will check for bad front end parts and tell you what is incorrect, bent, broken, etc. It however is very sad to see what other shops get away with around here. Worst part is having the only alignment rack in town other shops bring cars to us and request toe and goes....disappointing. I would return to midas and ask for refund at least.

Shade2012
01-17-2014, 12:36 PM
Saw you had your car posted on craigslist last night man. Whats up with that? Don't sell it!

EJ01GAGT
01-17-2014, 05:27 PM
Saw you had your car posted on craigslist last night man. Whats up with that? Don't sell it!

I really dont want to man but its costing me and im putting the money i had saved for a newer car into mine and its getting frustrating.

EJ01GAGT
01-17-2014, 05:29 PM
Thanks guys should b going back to midas on my next day off

EJ01GAGT
01-25-2014, 05:44 PM
Found out my spindle was bent

Starglow
01-25-2014, 07:52 PM
Found out my spindle was bent

That's what she said! :lol: