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fo44rd 01-09-2005 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pvt_Murphy
1) There wont be a 2 door in the forseable future, the Charger is a Magnum sedan, face it.
A coupe design would involve moving the B-pillar, which in these days mean butloads of money to do the research and developement and safety testing of this new platform with the relocated b-pillar. They might as well as wait till the next platform they devlope a few years down the line and incorparate the 2 door variant into that fame's developement.

I was under the impression a 2 door 300C was a year away, so it would be natural for there to be Charger 2 door. The coupe was a rumor, but it had validity to a certain degree. Does anyone know for certain of a 2 door 300C in the pipeline?

Pvt_Murphy 01-09-2005 03:27 AM

Where did you read/hear about the 2 door 300C?

Rich 01-09-2005 03:53 AM

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...highlight=300c

there was talk of it here. look at the last page.

Pvt_Murphy 01-09-2005 04:16 AM

"The source also indicates the auto maker is toying with the idea of launching a 2-door version of the Charger, as well as a 4-seat convertible, based loosely off the Chrysler Hemi C concept vehicle that debuted at the 2000 North American International Auto Show in Detroit.

“I’ve seen some mock-ups, but I’m not sure if it’s been given the green light,” the source says."

Well from reading that all we can tell is that Chrylser/Dodge went "Shizer! the original was a 2 door but the platform is a 4 door, people will want the 2 door, what would a 2 door look like?"

1) A mockup isnt even made on a tested frame, it's only supposed to look the part and not acualy stand up to the forces that would act on it.

2) We know that the platform won't be used for convertibles even though that was also mentioned.

3) Can you immagine a 2-door that would look good based on the current platform, with the proportions of the current veichles a 2 door would just look akward if you think about it. It's easy to say "It should be a 2 door" but when you really think about it, it wont look good on the current frame built specifically for 4-doors. (yes it looks possible with that convertible 300C chop, but that doesnt take into account any structural integrety)

Pvt_Murphy 01-09-2005 04:24 AM

on another note: when my 6.6l engine was made gas was $0.30-0.60, as far as I know; As much as I welcome and applaud automakers for putting larger and larger V8s with more torque and hp into current cars, makes me wonder alot how they're just disregarding increasing gas prices. ::shrug:: O well, I still vow to be the last arsehole driving a 5.0 or above musclecar when gas is $10/Gallon.

bigbenSC 01-09-2005 02:26 PM

A 2 door 300 would look ridiculous, that car is waaaay too long to have just 2 doors. Chrysler does need a two door car to compete with the Mustang and GTO though. lets just hope it isn't unnecessarily big like the 300 is.

hotgt 01-09-2005 03:58 PM

^^i guess you didnt see the concept pictures a while back...it looked HOT!



http://www.autokampioen.nl/content/b.../chry3ccag.jpg
http://www.autokampioen.nl/content/b.../chry3ccog.jpg

bigbenSC 01-09-2005 04:19 PM

Those are much better than I could have ever imagined! The coupe looks a little like a Mercedes CL from the side, but the cars still look too long. I guess if you want a 4 seat coupe/convertible they can't be more spacious than these two.

Pvt_Murphy 01-09-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotgt
^^i guess you didnt see the concept pictures a while back...it looked

I did and I mentioned it, as far as I understand those are just photoshoped. Even if those were actualy made they are missing serious structual support. I was talking about an actual practical one that they could produce. We know for a fact there won't be a convertible, and any coupe will have in my opinion an akward B-Pillar and then some.

playerx4 01-09-2005 07:26 PM

That 300C convertible looks bad ass. I'll take two :)

Vintalage 01-09-2005 07:57 PM

Can't forget about this guy:

http://www.westcoastcustoms.com/Show...0/DSC_0039.jpg
http://www.westcoastcustoms.com/Show...0/DSC_0027.jpg
http://www.westcoastcustoms.com/Show...0/DSC_0032.jpg

Pvt_Murphy 01-09-2005 09:27 PM

That's pretty nice for an aftermarket custom job, the west coast customs guys chopped it pretty good, xpt all they can do is add tons of woofers and lcds everywhere, there was like 1 eisode where they actualy touched the engine and thats cuz the POS wasnt running. I bet if that car takes a bit hard of a drop from anything it'll bend in the middle.

When was the last time a cop pulled you over and let someone run around him taking pictures all over?

hotgt 01-09-2005 09:48 PM

i think it was staged

that car was made for the 2004 SEMA show in Vegas...but you're right, they probably didnt touch the engine, but who cares...WCC isnt a performance shop, they sell rims/stereos/custom interiors...stuff for show cars

you wouldnt take a Dodge Charger to a Mopar shop and ask for 20"s and an Alpine stereo would ya?

mike2002 01-09-2005 11:42 PM

hey mike, did you give the impala ss back in 94 so much crap when it came out?

or the monte carlo?

or the impala again in 2000?

the GTO is the first re-do of a muscle car that holds true to its heritage....and hey, its not claiming to be the judge. like you said, the GTO's wern't the most aggresive cars back then, why should they be now...the GTO was a pretty dull looking car its first few years. i think pontiac greatly improved the looks and performance of the GTO for 05 too. the GTO is faster than the 300c too, its the srt8 thats the same speed. and im sure sharing the same drivetrain as the corvette, there will be TONS of mods for the ls2, which is probably pretty de-tuned like the original ls1

i love the 2 door 300c, but the "charger" is UGLY.

Pvt_Murphy 01-10-2005 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotgt
you wouldnt take a Dodge Charger to a Mopar shop and ask for 20"s and an Alpine stereo would ya?

No I'd take that Charger to Mopar and make it fierce; and thats the only place one should take a Charger :-P I would not further disrespect the Charger name by weighing it down with 400lb of audio equipment.

Edit: That 300c got pulled over for no tags, no way in hell could it be capable of speeding after it got pimped.

Edit: I wanna see a Charger that leaves Foose's shop :metal:

fo44rd 01-10-2005 11:55 AM

PVT Murphy, are you sure there is noo substance to the rumor of a 2 door? Are the photos just touch ups? The coupe looks like too much has change to just be a touch up!

Pvt_Murphy 01-10-2005 12:40 PM

if you take a look at the coupe (not the WCC ones) you can see that the B-Pillar is missing compeltely). I forgot where I saw it but someone said it was a photoshop job. Even if it's not and really is a prototype that GM made, in the article on the 300C thread (see quote in above post) it said they were only toying with the idea of a 2-door so I doubt they have a solid 2-door frame as of yet.

The WCC job looks like they just plain 'ol cut off the top, and replaced the rear doors with some sheetmetal because front doors are the same length as the 4-door. The back of that car is just more eletronics junk that they couldnt fit in the trunk.
This picture gives you a good idea of that http://www.westcoastcustoms.com/Sho...mber=21&car=300
I don't know how i feel about the fact that they replaced the rear veiw mirrors with cameras as of yet.

I for one refuse to accept a 4 door charger and hope they will have a 2-door, probably in the next generation they will.

Vintalage 01-10-2005 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pvt_Murphy
if you take a look at the coupe (not the WCC ones) you can see that the B-Pillar is missing compeltely). I forgot where I saw it but someone said it was a photoshop job. Even if it's not and really is a prototype that GM made, in the article on the 300C thread (see quote in above post) it said they were only toying with the idea of a 2-door so I doubt they have a solid 2-door frame as of yet.

GM does not produce Chrysler products. Daimler/Chrylser does. The same company that makes Mercedes.

Pvt_Murphy 01-10-2005 01:58 PM

My bad, I havent gotten my sleep; I meant Diamler-Chysler, plus I have GM stuck in my head from all this shopping I've been doing for the T/A.

Vintalage 01-10-2005 01:58 PM

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...r/images/1.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/DSCN1580.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/DSCN1582.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/DSCN1584.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/DSCN1585.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/IMG_0969.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/IMG_0972.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/IMG_0975.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/IMG_0979.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...s/IMG_0982.jpg

Pvt_Murphy 01-10-2005 02:08 PM

I like it as a car, it looks great, I just don't feel it deserves/lives up to the Charger name yet. Give it any other name and I'll say it looks great and has great specs.

Edit, some how the rear end(from the side) and a few other lines really remind me of the 2005 Mustang.

Vintalage 01-20-2005 07:09 PM

Quote:

50 Cent Makes Pitch to Get 2006 Charger

01/18/2005 8:19 AM, AP


DaimlerChrysler AG is getting another boost from the hip-hop world, this time in the person of 50 Cent.

The top-selling rapper says he is impatient to get his hands on the 2006 Dodge Charger, a four-door update of the classic muscle car that is debuting at the North American International Auto Show now under way in Detroit. It goes on sale in the spring.

"I need to know what I gotta do to get that Dodge Charger first. I need that," 50 Cent told Myles Kovacs, publisher of auto customizing publication Dub Magazine, in a telephone message last week made available to The Detroit News.

Chrysler is rushing to get 50 Cent what he wants, as it did last summer when rapper Snoop Dogg asked Chrysler division chief executive Dieter Zetsche for a Chrysler 300 sedan. The Snoop Dogg connection brought the automaker welcome cachet in the youth market.

The company allowed Snoop Dogg to use several of the sedans for a music video from his new CD.

Chrysler has been savvy about how it has approached the hip-hop community, letting the artists find it rather than chasing after endorsements, Kovacs said.

"That's worth more money than any advertising you could do in the marketplace," he said.
http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news/14291860

onesexyga 01-20-2005 07:52 PM

They should remind you of a mustang. They are both reminiscent of circa 1970 trans am cars.

Pvt_Murphy 01-20-2005 07:55 PM

::goes and practices guitar longer and harder:: I wanna be a celeb that gets cars like that.

70's Trans Am you say?

Vintalage 01-25-2005 09:46 PM

http://www.autospies.com/images/1-20/Charger_TIS/1.JPG
http://www.autospies.com/images/1-20/Charger_TIS/2.JPG

Dub's Dodge Charger supposedly. Sneak peek.

ZakkWylde470 01-25-2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintalage

:drool:

Vintalage 01-25-2005 10:01 PM

Here's a pretty nice chop I found. Two door. I like the charger's design.

http://www.latin4567.net/charger.jpg

Braves299 01-25-2005 10:04 PM

^now THATS nice!

hotgt 01-26-2005 09:26 AM

i bet you thats what the SRT-8 coupe will look like (minus the racing stripe, and black roof)...but as far as wheels, stance, brakes, and flat out bad ass-ness...that's it!


:drool:

02andahalfgt 01-26-2005 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintalage
Here's a pretty nice chop I found. Two door. I like the charger's design.

http://www.latin4567.net/charger.jpg

That's the way it should be!!! Fock a sedan, that's a disgrace. :nono:

Vintalage 01-26-2005 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02andahalfgt
That's the way it should be!!! Fock a sedan, that's a disgrace. :nono:

Yes, but Daimler-Chrysler will make more money on the 4 door. 4 doors sell more than coupes.

kse73 01-26-2005 04:38 PM

The damn car is aimed at the people who owned the car back in the late 60's....who now happen to have families. It was the logical thing to do.

02andahalfgt 01-26-2005 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintalage
Yes, but Daimler-Chrysler will make more money on the 4 door. 4 doors sell more than coupes.

Yeah I know, still a mistake though. Sell it as a sports car and it would more than likely kill the Mustang. (Although it is pretty big)

fo44rd 01-30-2005 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02andahalfgt
Yeah I know, still a mistake though. Sell it as a sports car and it would more than likely kill the Mustang. (Although it is pretty big)


Nothing has ever been father from the truth!

02andahalfgt 01-30-2005 01:56 PM

How'd I know a moron like you would post a reply to that. A Mustang would not hang with a Hemi powered Charger coupe.

I know you wouldn't have even bothered to respond if I would have said it would kill a Camaro, but since they're not produced anymore that's a moot point. :smack:

Pvt_Murphy 01-30-2005 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kse73
The damn car is aimed at the people who owned the car back in the late 60's....who now happen to have families. It was the logical thing to do.

I think they're a few decades off; They had the car in the 60's, had a family, kids went though college and are out of the house and now; 40 years later; they'd prolly want it as the coupe they remeber it as.

bigbenSC 01-30-2005 02:05 PM

Two doors, Four doors whatever, that is still an extremely ugly car. I wouldn't say that a two door hemi would absolutely kill a new mustang GT, it would probly beat a pre-2005 Mustang pretty good. It only has 45 more horsepower but is much larger, heavier, and less aerodynamic. Now if they put the 6.1 hemi in it then there would be no contest!

Vintalage 01-30-2005 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbengt67
Two doors, Four doors whatever, that is still an extremely ugly car. I wouldn't say that a two door hemi would absolutely kill a new mustang GT, it would probly beat a pre-2005 Mustang pretty good. It only has 45 more horsepower but is much larger, heavier, and less aerodynamic. Now if they put the 6.1 hemi in it then there would be no contest!

It would be a close race. The 300C posts a 13.9 1/4 mile time. At least according to motor trend.

fo44rd 01-31-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02andahalfgt
How'd I know a moron like you would post a reply to that. A Mustang would not hang with a Hemi powered Charger coupe.

I know you wouldn't have even bothered to respond if I would have said it would kill a Camaro, but since they're not produced anymore that's a moot point. :smack:


Hemi 425 horsepower

New Cobra Mustang.....465 horsepower minimum!!!!!

There are more Ford fans than Mopar fans out there........please note car sales count as the votes......one has been made for 40 years the MOPAR MUSCLE has been dead until the germans bought them.

MORON

bigbenSC 01-31-2005 03:06 PM

Easy there, Mopar muscle has been alive and well since 1992 when the Dodge Viper first appeared. A case can also be made for the turbo Stealth, but since it was a 3000 GT we'll let that one go. It is true that Chrysler performance disappeared in the 80's but everyone's suffered. I would say that a mid 80's Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang would be put to shame by all but the weakest cars sold in 2005. We don't yet know what the new Cobra's HP will be for sure but somewhere between 300 and 500.


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