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The JoKeR 01-16-2005 11:15 PM

I gotta give NE props...they didn't just beat the colts...but they dominated them. Now it's going to be the #1 defense vs #2 defense....#1 seed vs #2 seed...the way it's supposed to be! It's gonna be a great game on both sides with the NFC and AFC. The road to the superbowl goes through PA either way!

99GApunk 01-16-2005 11:30 PM

just like it did in 2002 :) it should be a great game (same on the other side of the bracket) and i cant wait, win or lose as long as both teams play well and exciting ill be happy. i hope to go down for the game if i can get/afford tickets

The JoKeR 01-17-2005 12:57 AM

go down for what game? If you're talking about the pit vs ne game...good luck getting tickets ANYWHERE near face value lol. Same with the superbowl though. I'm recording this game because no matter what the outcome is...it's going to be an instant classic!

GregFarz78 01-17-2005 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by elim
oh, and dan marino is still the best quarterback the league has ever had, super bowl ring or not.

better than joe montana? :nope:

elim 01-17-2005 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GregFarz78
better than joe montana? :nope:

pfffff, absolutely. montana was a reflection of his team. look who was around him? jerry ****, ronny lott, roger craig, john taylor...his team was stacked. not to mention he played in the absolute worst division in the history of the league at the time. montana would dink and dump down the field, where he'd throw for 5 yards, then the receivers would run for 30 or 80.

marino did it by himself mostly. not to mention he played in probably the toughest division in the league. the defenses could queue in on him, knowing that the team had little running game, and he would still pick them apart.

oh, and yeah, Montana is great, that's why he had set all the records marino had destroyed in his playing time.

i honestly didn't see in anything in Montana...nothing special at least. it's easy for a quarterback when you've got talent at all the necessary positions *cough* tom brady *cough*.

StephenM 01-17-2005 07:06 AM

I hate the Patriots, I hope they get their :bleep: handed to them either in the AFC Champ. game or in the SB.

StephenM 01-17-2005 07:20 AM

Well, I was 3 for 4 last week, so maybe I'll be perfect this week. Here are my predictions for this week coming up. Trust me, this is not what I WANT to happen, only what I THINK will happen:

http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/playo...atchup_phi.jpg > http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/playo...atchup_atl.jpg

http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/playo...atchup_nwe.jpg > http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/playo...atchup_pit.jpg

Personally, I'm pulling for ATL all the way, and I don't care who beats the Pats as long as someone does.

elim 01-17-2005 07:24 AM

gimme the steelers and the falcons. gotta stay true to my original super bowl pick.

StephenM 01-17-2005 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by elim
gimme the steelers and the falcons. gotta stay true to my original super bowl pick.


Man, I hope so.

99GApunk 01-17-2005 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by elim
i honestly didn't see in anything in Montana...nothing special at least. it's easy for a quarterback when you've got talent at all the necessary positions *cough* tom brady *cough*.


how about *cough* peyton manning *cough* he has a more talented group of WRs then anyone. and his running back.

i dont know why anyone ever thinks of brady as a hot shot. his stats arent bad, not great either, but since football is a team sport, who cares who has the best stats? the superbowl rings are really all that matters in a team sport

superbowl mvps and victories > any record or mvp trophy

99GApunk 01-17-2005 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StephenM
I hate the Patriots, I hope they get their :bleep: handed to them either in the AFC Champ. game or in the SB.

why do you hate the pats?

elim 01-17-2005 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 99GApunk
how about *cough* peyton manning *cough* he has a more talented group of WRs then anyone. and his running back.

i dont know why anyone ever thinks of brady as a hot shot. his stats arent bad, not great either, but since football is a team sport, who cares who has the best stats? the superbowl rings are really all that matters in a team sport

superbowl mvps and victories > any record or mvp trophy

yes, but Brady has the NE defense, just like Montana had his. Manning is loaded on offense, but the reason why I don't compare him is because his team is severly lacking on defense.

i'm not saying brady is a hot shot, i'm just saying i'm not going to be so quick to say he's so great like people were doing 1-2 years ago and some still, until he gets put on a team where he is required to perform to a high standard week in/ week out without much help.

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Originally Posted by 99GApunk
superbowl mvps and victories > any record or mvp trophy

i really can't argue that, because it's personal opinion.

luniz 01-17-2005 08:57 AM

Even though Brady's numbers were not great, he managed to almost always convert a 3rd and long. That was the difference between Manning and Brady. The Pats D was on the ball so quickly. They dominated the Colts from the first kickoff to the end. I would have to say the the SB will be Eagles and Pats.

If the Pats D plays like they did yesterday, I don't see any team beating them.

99GApunk 01-17-2005 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by elim
yes, but Brady has the NE defense, just like Montana had his. Manning is loaded on offense, but the reason why I don't compare him is because his team is severly lacking on defense.

i'm not saying brady is a hot shot, i'm just saying i'm not going to be so quick to say he's so great like people were doing 1-2 years ago and some still, until he gets put on a team where he is required to perform to a high standard week in/ week out without much help.



i really can't argue that, because it's personal opinion.

that wasnt really meant to attack your statements, more so people who think we worship brady here. and i couldnt agree with you more, he hasnt had to prove much, he can generally have a bad game and not worry too much about it. and he was very over-rated, still is really

anyone see bruschi's hit/rip of the ball away from rhodes? thats what i like to see in the playoffs :metal: . to me it seemed the colts gave up on the run way too early, and trying to forcw passes is cold slippery weather just got the best of them

sidenote: reading the boston globe today, all the patriots had nothing but good things to say about the colts. i know no one cares, but it makes me proud that the team i cheer for doesnt overlook opponents, look ahead of the next game or get too ****y

fo44rd 01-17-2005 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bryan1727
I don't understand why everyones picking the Colts. Bill Bellicheck is a genius. He will find a way to shut Payton Manning down, hes done it everytime the Pats have played the Colts. Payton has never won a game at foxboro. It will be a great game


You look like a genius today!!!!!

fo44rd 01-17-2005 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by StephenM
Well, I was 3 for 4 last week, so maybe I'll be perfect this week. Here are my predictions for this week coming up. Trust me, this is not what I WANT to happen, only what I THINK will happen:

http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/playo...atchup_phi.jpg > http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/playo...atchup_atl.jpg

http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/playo...atchup_nwe.jpg > http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/playo...atchup_pit.jpg

Personally, I'm pulling for ATL all the way, and I don't care who beats the Pats as long as someone does.


I hope the opposite of what you predict happens.

I would like to see Cowher get his ring and reward the Steelers for their loyalty to him.

StephenM 01-17-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 99GApunk
why do you hate the pats?


Honestly, I really have no justifiable reason. I just don't like them as a team. I like Dillon, I like Law, I think Coach Bill is one of the best ever, but they are just a boring team to watch. They don't do anything spectacular, they just flat out win (which works, so I'm not saying its a bad thing). I give them kudos for beating the Colts, I didn't think they would. But there is no reason I don't like them, other than the fact that I just don't like them.

GregFarz78 01-17-2005 12:51 PM

I hate tom brady I pick him 2 years in a row for fantasy football he performs average all yaer then kicks ass in the playoffs AFTER my fantasy league is over :mad:

99GApunk 01-17-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StephenM
Honestly, I really have no justifiable reason. I just don't like them as a team. I like Dillon, I like Law, I think Coach Bill is one of the best ever, but they are just a boring team to watch. They don't do anything spectacular, they just flat out win (which works, so I'm not saying its a bad thing). I give them kudos for beating the Colts, I didn't think they would. But there is no reason I don't like them, other than the fact that I just don't like them.

good enough for me, i was just curious. i feel the same way about other teams, especially in baseball

braves511 01-18-2005 12:28 PM

Brady may not have numbers like manning, but he has proven he is cool under pressure. For proof look at the past few playoff games before this year where he ran the two minute drill to perfection leading to winning drives. Especially in the 2 super bowls. Vinatieri should have been MVP of atleast one of those super bowls but Brady did run the two mintue drill calling the plays and adjusting on the line to get clsoe enough for Vinatieri to make the kicks, so he has proven himself in tight spots. Until it can be shown otherwise I am going to have to agree with the analysts (sp?) that he is that good. I know the defense helps but baltimore had a great D and hey still couldnt win it all this year or last, so you have to have a QB who can make the plays when it counts.

bryan1727 01-18-2005 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fo44rd
You look like a genius today!!!!!

You can't underestimate the Pats. They come out to play every game, i don't understand why people pick against them year after year. Brady's definately not the best QB in the league but he gets the job done when it really counts. I'd take him over any QB in the league in an important game.

02andahalfgt 01-18-2005 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by braves511
I know the defense helps but baltimore had a great D and hey still couldnt win it all this year or last, so you have to have a QB who can make the plays when it counts.

They don't just not have a QB, they don't have a whole offense. lol J.Lewis had a bad year, I don't know if it was because of his legal trouble, the recievers (or lack there of) don't exactly ooze greatness. Though that could have something to do with not having a quarterback too, who knows.

99GApunk 01-18-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 02andahalfgt
They don't just not have a QB, they don't have a whole offense. lol J.Lewis had a bad year, I don't know if it was because of his legal trouble, the recievers (or lack there of) don't exactly ooze greatness. Though that could have something to do with not having a quarterback too, who knows.

he was also playing injured A LOT. i think he can be a great running back still if their offense as a whole comes around

IanGT99 01-18-2005 10:16 PM

Ok, well I'm gonna stick my nose in this thread and give my picks for this weekend. First of all, the Pats are playing in Pittsburgh this weekend. The fact that the Steelers didn't look so good last week and got pretty lucky when it came to the missed field goals doesn't hold any weight. I think they'll realize their mistakes and fix them before gametime. The Pats match up a lot better with the Steelers, and I honestly think the Pittsburgh defense will shut down Dillon. I'm just worried about our DB's keeping up with the Pat receivers and Brady's spot on passing. I know Ty Law will be out, but Ben and his receivers need to get their communication back...especially Plax. The Steelers are 3 point underdogs, and that's understandable from last week's performance. I say Steelers will win 24-17.
The Eagles are without TO, but they're still a solid team. However, I honestly don't know if they can keep up with the Falcons team that showed up to play last week. On the other hand, the BAD Falcons team that likes to show its ugly head from time to time (like the shutout against the Bucs) might show up, too. It all depends on that. If the Falcons come to play, I'm calling it for them 34-24. If the other bad Falcons team shows with a bad Mike Vick, then the Eagles will take it 31-13.

99GApunk 01-18-2005 10:34 PM

my official picks and i wont offer any reasoning whatsoever...

pats over steelers (barely)

falcons over eagles

then the superbowl: falcons over pats by a TD

IanGT99 01-18-2005 10:43 PM

^^ :wtf

You're really picking against your Pats?? That's the first time I've seen you do that! Even when they were up against the Colts, you said you wouldn't be surprised if they lost, but you were still picking them to win. lol

99GApunk 01-18-2005 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IanGT99
^^ :wtf

You're really picking against your Pats?? That's the first time I've seen you do that! Even when they were up against the Colts, you said you wouldn't be surprised if they lost, but you were still picking them to win. lol

im also usually wrong.... so we will see lol hopefully i will be superbowl weekend. like i said, i have no reasoning behind those picks, thats what i picked in a pool with my buddies, but i will still say my pats are the better playoff team out there, tested and approved so i wont be surprised if they prove me wrong :)

im just a mixed up bowl of emotions and predictions. im dangerous, loose cannon.... call me maverick

sorry for the weird ramble, just had a couple and watched top gun :ec: lol

2002GT 01-18-2005 11:11 PM

Phiadelphia Eagles 13, Atlanta Falcons 10

Pittsburg Steelers 35, New England Patriots 24

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Eagles 23, Steelers 21

99GApunk 01-18-2005 11:21 PM

wow thats a high scoring prediction for the steelers vs pats, the best 2 defenses left

bryan1727 01-19-2005 12:34 AM

Pats 24 Steelers 10
Eagles 17 Falcons 13

I want the falcons to win but i dont see it happening

elim 01-19-2005 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 99GApunk
im also usually wrong.... so we will see lol hopefully i will be superbowl weekend. like i said, i have no reasoning behind those picks, thats what i picked in a pool with my buddies

haha, yeah, didn't you pick the chargers over the seahawks or something?

as for me, i predicted the steelers over the falcons back in November, so i'm going to stay with those picks. i really suck at picking scores, so here goes:

Falcons 24, Eagles 21
Steelers 26, Patriots 19

eric99gt 01-19-2005 06:41 AM

No way the Falcons beat the Eagles. Well it is possible because well....it's the Eagles, but I don't see it happening. The Eagles are a better team all around. There is no way the Falcons receivers will match up to the Eagles pro bowl secondary. They'll just stack the line and have kearse spy vick. Very similar to what the bucs do against them. The Falcons got a cake team in the Rams. I know the Eagles didn't play the greatest of opponents but they were still much better than the Rams. Any reason the ones picking against the Eagles are doing so???

elim 01-19-2005 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by eric99gt
No way the Falcons beat the Eagles. Well it is possible because well....it's the Eagles, but I don't see it happening.

same story the past 3 years.

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Originally Posted by eric99gt
The Eagles are a better team all around.

Falcons have the #1 rushing offense in the league. and their defense may not be as fast or blitz happy, but they are no where near the level of the vikings defense.

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Originally Posted by eric99gt
There is no way the Falcons receivers will match up to the Eagles pro bowl secondary.

no argument there. but, the falcons also have 2 tremendously talented tight ends that the eagles will have to cover, possibly taking 1 or more linebackers out of the pass/rush blitz. although, the vikings receivers aren't exactly stacked, much like the vikings, and culpeper threw for over 300 on them.

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Originally Posted by eric99gt
They'll just stack the line and have kearse spy vick. Very similar to what the bucs do against them.

i know i'd do it. but then, kearse's pass rushing will not be as prominent as in the past, so that may advantage the falcons, because vick would have more time to look over his receivers. it's really a sore issue though, because vick and the falcons offense have never accelled against a rushing/blitzing defense.

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Originally Posted by eric99gt
The Falcons got a cake team in the Rams. I know the Eagles didn't play the greatest of opponents but they were still much better than the Rams.

too true that the Falcons had an easier game, but they dominated their "cake" team. again, all people IMO overlooked the vikings. if not for the lucky mitchell fumble recovery in the endzone, and if minnesota didn't absolutely botch all their possible fumble recoveries/interceptions/easy fake field goal TDs, the game would've been very close, if not a win for minnesota, but they absolutely choked in the game, like always. if the same situations happen for Atlanta, i don't see them making the same bonehead mistakes.

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Originally Posted by eric99gt
Any reason the ones picking against the Eagles are doing so???

carolina panthers? tampa bay bucs? st. louis rams? ;) personally, i just like to root for the underdogs. but, a lot of people are overlooking the falcons defense. the falcons have people to cover westbrook, unlike minnesota who was without corey chavous. their coordinator all but beat the eagles last year if not for a 4th and 26 pass with the packers last year, and the packers defense wasn't all that great. although, you could make a case and say the eagles also had no westbrook.

plus i like michael vick and he's somewhat of a local guy, so i pull for the falcons moreso than the eagles.

99GApunk 01-19-2005 09:08 AM

im picking the falcons because of their speed and attitude

and elim i think my pick was the seahawks would go to the superbowl.... something craaaaaazy like that

braves511 01-19-2005 10:48 AM

elim...nothing like picking it apart line by line...lol I cant wait to see these games both should be close physical matches between great teams.

IanGT99 01-19-2005 12:47 PM

My roommate just got a ticket to the Steelers/Pats game 22 rows up on the 35 yard line for $95. I told him to go f*** himself. One of his friend's uncles has season tickets and had one person not able to go to the game. So the uncle gave it to my roommate's friend, who in turn basically gave away the $700 ticket to my roommate for $95...

I'll be sitting in front of the TV on my nice, warm, cozy couch while drinking many a beer. He can freeze his ass off for all I care.... :rage:

eric99gt 01-19-2005 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elim
same story the past 3 years.



Falcons have the #1 rushing offense in the league. and their defense may not be as fast or blitz happy, but they are no where near the level of the vikings defense.



no argument there. but, the falcons also have 2 tremendously talented tight ends that the eagles will have to cover, possibly taking 1 or more linebackers out of the pass/rush blitz. although, the vikings receivers aren't exactly stacked, much like the vikings, and culpeper threw for over 300 on them.



i know i'd do it. but then, kearse's pass rushing will not be as prominent as in the past, so that may advantage the falcons, because vick would have more time to look over his receivers. it's really a sore issue though, because vick and the falcons offense have never accelled against a rushing/blitzing defense.



too true that the Falcons had an easier game, but they dominated their "cake" team. again, all people IMO overlooked the vikings. if not for the lucky mitchell fumble recovery in the endzone, and if minnesota didn't absolutely botch all their possible fumble recoveries/interceptions/easy fake field goal TDs, the game would've been very close, if not a win for minnesota, but they absolutely choked in the game, like always. if the same situations happen for Atlanta, i don't see them making the same bonehead mistakes.



carolina panthers? tampa bay bucs? st. louis rams? ;) personally, i just like to root for the underdogs. but, a lot of people are overlooking the falcons defense. the falcons have people to cover westbrook, unlike minnesota who was without corey chavous. their coordinator all but beat the eagles last year if not for a 4th and 26 pass with the packers last year, and the packers defense wasn't all that great. although, you could make a case and say the eagles also had no westbrook.

plus i like michael vick and he's somewhat of a local guy, so i pull for the falcons moreso than the eagles.

All honest answers. I like others opinions that aren't completely biased. YA YA I know what happened the last three damn years. But hell, if boston can break an 86 year curse. Why can't the Eagles break the 45.

02andahalfgt 01-19-2005 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 99GApunk
he was also playing injured A LOT. i think he can be a great running back still if their offense as a whole comes around

True, true. I can't wait to see what Fassel does as offensive coordinator next season, I've always liked him.

bryan1727 01-19-2005 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IanGT99
My roommate just got a ticket to the Steelers/Pats game 22 rows up on the 35 yard line for $95. I told him to go f*** himself. One of his friend's uncles has season tickets and had one person not able to go to the game. So the uncle gave it to my roommate's friend, who in turn basically gave away the $700 ticket to my roommate for $95...

I'll be sitting in front of the TV on my nice, warm, cozy couch while drinking many a beer. He can freeze his ass off for all I care.... :rage:

Its fun to go to games like this but i really enjoy sitting in a nice heated house, watching the game, eating food that doesnt cost 5 times it should be and like you said, throwin back a few brews. :ec:
you also don't have to wait in line to urinate

IanGT99 01-19-2005 09:25 PM

^^ Amen for that! :thumbs:


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