And just because thats true doesnt mean its ok to entertain it.


He was obviously trying to get a rise out of people w/ his trashtalking - I was simply giving it to him. I dont know why you feel the need to be mediator.

And you have to think about the fans who travel hours to go to other cities for games. Many of those are the diehard fans who booze up the way there - and you know how drunk dudes do.

The same thing goes for Red Wing/Blues fans at Blackhawk games - I dont say "fock red wing fans" because of the busload that drives down to humiliate themselves.

Great game, the better team definitely took the trophy home :ec: Kind of upsetting to see bad play calling, bad passing, and turnovers against a team that 100% capitalizes on those sorts of problems. But, there is still next year, I look forward to next season, hopefully the NFC teams get better as a whole :)

cheers to you philly fans on here for being good sports

Can't be mad. The eagles beat themselves, and the Pats played solid - easy win for them IMO. I really like the team Reid has built the past few years, they are getting better and better, the future can only bring better things hopefully :)

Well that was a good game one of the best/closest super bowl I've seen in my lifetime. McNabb choked plain and simple, he caused too many turnovers they should've won that game. Not to worry the key players on the eagles are locked up for the next few years so we'll be back count on that :) Freddie Mitchell stinks, Todd Pinkston stinks they should trade both those losers. At least they played a respectable game and kept it closer than some people here thought it was gonna be a blowout, maybe the eagles will get a little more respect next year probably not though everyone loves to hate philly teams :rolleyes:

the game wasn't as close as the score indicated imo. did anyone ever *honestly* feel, at any point, that philly had a chance? certainly not i. pats had it under control. but philly played tough and the final score was closer than i would have thought.

After Phillys first TD when they were up 7-0 I wasn't so sure, NE was having a tough time getting anything going, and TO had stepped up and made some key plays, along with all the NE penalties. Once NE was up 10 in the fourth I thought it was pretty much over, although a successful onside kick could've changed that game....Philly (as well as NE) has a kicker that can knock one in from the 45 Yd Line.

yes. if mcnabb didn't have any turnovers, then we coulda had a chance. congrats to the patriots tho.

and removed his head from his ass. Nice clock management Donovan.....

McNabb officially cost Philly the Super Bowl, anyone who wants to say otherwise is just skirting around calling out the real issue.

I totally agree!! Donovan should of took control of his team at the end of the game. Poor clock management all falls on his hands. Also, he was never comfortable the entire game. He constantly had an "OH SH!T what do I do now" look on him. Also I don't care how many yards you get, 4 picks negate everything!!!

Just think Philly fans, if things hold to course, you could be looking at a losing season next year!!! :doh:

Donovan's passing yards are severly overrated for the game. The man had to have that many, because he had to throw 51 times....because Philly has NO RUNNING BACK. Westbrook is a good football player, but not a good all around RB. He cannot pound the ball like a Dillon/Martin/Alexander/Holmes/etc.etc. If Philly was in the AFC they would have been battling for a division title and playoff spot because they can't run the ball.

Philly needs to find a workhourse back. IMO it may be wise for them to trade for Ricky Williams playing rights. Maybe that would spark him to come back...and then imagine Philly. Anyways, aside from that, they need to get a true RB and perhaps move Westbrook to WR. One of the Philly coaches believes Westbrook could be a top WR in the league if that was his only position to play. They could also then dump that douchebag homo Mitchell, and the ***** Pinkston.

He choked big time looked like a rookie QB out there a few times, they should've brought in coy detmer the last quarter. If they didnt have 4 turnovers the game was in their hands, turnovers cost you football games. They need to make some trades and get a decent RB, westbrook should move to WR, trade pinkston/mitchell/buckhalter/c lewis

Slim chance at that happening unless everyone get injured, the key players are signed to long term deals for the next few years.

Exactly. In fact, if they were in any other division in the NFC, the same would hold true. They get to play Dallas, the Giants. and Washington 2 times each. Now tell me those 6 games are not gimme's. Did anyone notice that those three teams all finished 6-10, and except for the Giants making it to the Superbowl a few years ago, those teams have sucked for quite some time now.

thats what me and my dad discussed most of the game, that if you give philly a power running back, they will be amazing instead of just good enough to beat nfc people.

time management like i said killed them, at one point the center was telling everyone to get on the line and mcnabb called them back to the huddle :doh:

philly should have been up at least by 14 at halftime. and they shouldnt have had to kick an onside kick if they had a hurry up offense. me and my dad were just plain shocked (but thankful) at the way philly played the end of the game

all i know is eugene wilson needs to stop getting hurt late in superbowls, thats how carolina came back last year and why dexter reed had to try and cover guys this time.

i dont know why everyone is criticizing pinkston, he had some of the best catches of the game before he got hurt. looked like he pulled a hamstring or something, any official word on that?

those arent gimmes, dallas and the giants were playing very well there for a while. dallas will be good once they get a QB, but the giants wont be good for a couple years till they get rid of or stop pushing mannind

Rodney Harrison broke his arm last year and played with it. Yesterday was Wilson. I haven't heard reports, but seeing it happened I guessed it was a broken humorous (arm bone that gos from elbow to shoulder). Forgot who he was trying to tackle, but the Eagle guys knee hit directly on the middle section of that bone.

They ARE gimmes...your playing well argument is no good.

Here are Dallas' 6 wins...
Cleveland - barely (19-12)
Washington - barely (21-18)
Detroit
Chicago
Seattle - barely (43-39) and if I recall, Hasselbeck lost the game for Seattle here.
Washington - again barely (13-10)

Washington's wins...
Tampa Bay
Chicago barely (13-10)
Detroit
Giants
49ers
Minnesota barely the last game of the season

Giants wins...
Washington
Cleveland
Green Bay
Dallas
Minnesota
Dallas

So as you can see, the teams that these "Eagles divisional rivals" played and won against were not exactly powerhouses, thus reinforcing my "Gimme's" point, also re-reinforcing that the Eagles anywhere else but in their division aren't 13-3 and best in the NFC.

It's a long off season, anything can happen. I'm sure Carolina fans felt the same way after their Superbowl loss. But look what happened.

Also, I think its a guarantee that the NFC East will get better next season. To many good coaches there for it not to happen.

As long as the eagles are running the west coast offense they wont have a RB that pounds the ball like Dillon. It doesnt go with that offense, the short passes and screens act as thier running game. The clock management is the coaches fault not the QB's, they call the plays. Hes not the offensive coordinator. But I think McNabb should have over ruled the coaches and called 2 or 3 plays per huddle, it really isnt hard. But there is no question that the INT's are what lost the game, he freakin stared at the reciever the whole route the one pass.

Well they had a much better showing than the AFC powerhouses (colts/steelers). Im not saying that the NFC is competitive by any means....but if McNabb was on, this would be a different discussion right now.

In 2 minute drill situations it is the QB's responsibility to get the team to the line quickly with no huddle. QB calls the plays until the clock is stopped. McNabb clearly did not do this. :rolleyes:

well the pats played a lot better vs both the colts and steelers as well. had brady and dillon been on in the first half it could have been a blowout

i beleive wilson also hurt himself last year, i knew harrison did... he almost went out this year too, but was just shaken up
dillon was playing most of the second half with a bad back/side/ribs, you could see him in pain everytime they showed a close up.

one good point for both teams was tackling, both teams tackled very well for the most part. which is good to see

Hes gotta be given the plays to run, I'm sure if he was calling the plays he woud NOT have handed the ball off. Its not hard, they call 3 or 4 plays in the huddle and run them until the clock is stopped. Ried took full blame for it, probably a PR stunt for McNabb but if it was his fault he would have owned up to it I'm sure. But there still is no excuse for the INT's which can only be blamed on the QB.

my point is that no game is a gimme. the patriots lost to the dolphins.... THE DOLPHINS. a team has to play well each week to win, regardless of the opponent and the eagles did that. and you forget that they also got to the superbowl, so they proved they can beat good teams.. not afc teams, but good nfc teams

lol pontga still going on about how the eagles weren't a good team and faced no good competition. Jesus christ. The game was close all the way through. NE steamrolled pitt and indy. I'm sure the eagles would have stood no chance in the AFC.

Thank you.

I do have to give Philly credit though, they kept it close. A lot closer than I would've thought. With Eugene Wilson in the game, it a different story though.

Why would McNabb own up to it after his coach already took full blame for it? Still McNabb has been in the game long enough to know that you don't huddle up with the clock running with less than a minute to play. Regardless of whether he got a play from the sidelines or not he should of took control and got something going immediately. This is what leaders do, so why didn't McNabb?

because Mcnabb had a bad game. That's it. He was nervous and didn't get the help he needed at times. He'll be there again and prove he's a great QB. Just gotta overcome the big game jitters at times.

I agree he did have a bad game. But how many big games does it take for him to get over the jitters. This is number 4 lost.

him and manning must hang out too much

lol at the people saying philly had it if it weren't for the turnovers. guess what? defense causes turnovers...what you should be really saying is 'eagles woulda won if they weren't playing a team that was so good'

come on now...do you think the defense caused all those turnovers. I think mcnabb may have gave some away.

he gave them away because the defense pressured him and was properly in position...if the defense wasn't doing its job mcnabb wouldn't have thrown all of the interceptions...it's as simple as that.

Agreed, Mcnabb was the only flaw that game...well That and Freddy's mouth. TO showed a lot out there.....

Brady= The man...4 years, 3 Rings...Need i say more?

simply unbelievable....

http://www.nbc10.com/sports/4176702/detail.html :iconfused

hmmm...that would explain a lot.

^Interesting, but no excuses, lol j/k. I noticed he didnt smile or joke much and thats something he's known for, no matter the situation. They still lost to a better team and kept the game interesting kinda. Did alot better then most expected.

maybe he was sick when he looked up at the scoreboard??

but honestly, maybe he had a mild concussion from hitting the ground?, or just wooziness from the pain from the jaw shot, he did get nailed on his jaw and yeah he didnt look good all game, but who knows

yeah I agree. no excuses needed, they def lost to the better team, just posted that, maybe it explains the retarded 2 minute offense they showed