lol Metallman, the Bears played the Pats in Super Bowl XX IN THE YEAR YOU WERE BORN. I guess that brings new meaning to the term, "football fan since birth." haha!

Also, Cormaster, I wouldn't be so hasty as to call Peyton the best quarterback of all time. You've still got guys like Elway, Marino, Unitas, etc. up there. Peyton can very well be the best of all time and if he stays healthy I think he'll certainly earn that distinction. He's shown some outright amazing stats and abilities over the past 6 or 7 years, but let's not make him a diety just yet...

i agree with your entire statment. except one thing. sorry to say manning isnt the best qb ever. he is a great qb, but not the best ever. he is smart, but not smarter than marino. and i dont know if any one has been/is as competitive as nameth. not to mention montana, elway, bradshaw, young, and the list goes on. he is the best in the league right now though. no question.

also calm down about the colts. they will be in the super bowl. manning wont let them not be. take it one game at a time.

also iangt99 i saw the cable guy sunday night. hilarious! i meant to tell you earlier but kept forgetting.

did you watch the game???

at one series with around 2 minutes left, peyton called 3 straight pass plays and took about 17 seconds off the clock, giving cinci the ball back with decent position.
and since he decides between run and pass plays at the line... how is that being smart?!?
and he knows how to win games, the whole team does, anybody knows how to, he has been this year a lot. he didnt last postseason... and the one before that and :erika:

thats my 5 cents

well even the greats make mistakes...

I guess I shouldn't call him the Best ever yet... I think when its all said and done he will be. Its always heartbreaking to see him throw and interception, which I saw him do at least once these past 2 games. Though I have to say in the cincy game it was worth it to see manning tackle, lol.

I think the difference in the colts this year is they are relaxed. They could of beat new england last year but honestly I think they were under so much pressure they tried too hard... Peyton showed up to play but the rest of the team didn't...hell peyton was hitting the receivers right in the numbers with the ball and they could not hold on to a pass! oh yeah thats right and our defense sucked back then :-P

Anyway like I said if they are going to loose, they better get it out of the way. If not, then yeah hopefully 19-0. If Denver wins the rest of their games, Indy will have to win through the Seattle game to keep 100% homefield advantage. As far as Arizona goes, hell I think our 3rd stringers can handle them. undefeated status is only 5 games away. Its kind of a relief knowing 11 games have passed, and only 5 more to go, and the colts have stayed undefeated.

They make mistakes, but I honestly don't think any other team is as good right now. Now next year, well hell its a different NFL next year... I'm looking for Cincy to rise up to our status within the next few years.

indy didnt beat NE last year for two reasons. weather. NE defense. the recievers wernt catching the ball because they knew that they were going to take a big hit. they were probley outcoached too but i cant really use that as a reason because i dont know first hand. i wasnt on the field.

i think indy will go 19-0. i am probley wrong but i hope not. the thing is if you play the colts this year you have to put up about 50 pionts to beat em. thats hard to do.

GO INDY!!

GO BEARS!!

no offense, but that sounds really ****y and it kind of gets under my skin "to our status"
not everyone wants to be just like the colts, with that much talent on one team, it will be extremely hard to maintain for more than a year or two. cincy and others are looking similar to the patriots (not saying they started it) but where they have 1 or 2 very good talents and the rest filled with hard working 100% heart average talent guys. which makes it much easier to re-sign and keep a team together. im amazed the colts have kept all their stars together this long, lots of credit there

the colts havent won **** yet is what it comes down to, even if they go undefeated (amazing accomplishment, that i am not arguing) in this day in age, it doesnt matter if you cant win the whole thing. and if they go undefeated and dont make it to or lose the superbowl, wherever they may lose if they do will make it seem like all those wins were for nothing.
going undefeated would be great, but it didnt work out well for the last team to do it, not saying that will happen again (altho if the colts go undefeated i hope they follow suit) im just emphasing the point that the season would be extremely incomplete without a ring, at the very least a superbowl appearance

metallman, i would say the colts were definitely outcoached by the pats last year in almost every department (just my opinion from watching the games), dungee doesnt get much credit for the colts success and rightfully so

Dungee put together a d that can keep manning on the field. that is what he was put there for. building the indy d like he did to tampa.

last i checked things worked out great for the last/only team to go undefeated. the 72 dolphins were 19-0 with a superbowl ring. thats not too shabby. since then all teams have lost atleast one game in the regular season. as irony has it my 85 bears only lose came from the phines.

i do agree that if the colts loose a post season game the whole season will go right down the toilet. to truely have a perfect season you MUST win the superbowl. of you dont then you didnt have a perfect year.

i think now if the colts win the superbowl then most of the team will stay together. i think even james will be back. the colts have been hungry for a ring for a while now, so the taste of victory will be very sweet to them. they will want anther one. and if the team stays togerher, they will have more to come.

so who do we like this weekend? of the 4 big divisional games here is who i like:

pit over cincy
dal over nyg
den over k.c
t.b over atl

all of the games could go either way. no clear winner, but thats just who i think has the best chances. what do you guys think?

cinci
dallas
denver
is the tampa game home? if so ill take tampa

and one thing i do know is im gonna be cold but hopefully it will be worth it and the pats will destroy the jets on sunday... but this year i never know

edit: and you are right my bad, for some reason i thought they (72 dolphins) didnt win the bowl that year, i thought they did the year after

my mistake

it happens man no big deal. and the pats should just kill the jets. also i believe tampa is at home. so your taking cincy? other than that we agree. nice pics though.

CAAAABLE GUYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! lol

Picks for those games:

Pittsburgh over Cincy (honestly not just because I'm a Steelers fan)
Giants over Dallas
Denver over KC
Bucs over Atlanta

lets hear why you think the steelers will beat cincy, is this one in pitt? i cant remember

its in pit. pit will win because there d which looked like crap against the colts will take cincy out of there game.i mean tell me one d so far after the first 3 games of the season that hasnt looked like crap against the colts. its in pit, its cold, its a must win for pit. that is why they will win. throw out all the stats and crap, its a divisional game.
why do you think cincy will win?

because of the same reasons for the most part

look what cincy's offense did against the same colt defense that held the steelers. and they put up big numbers last week as well
the fact that its in pit does give me some hesitation, but i still feel cincy will win and it will be a tough loss if so for the steelers to handle

plus ive been a cincinatti fan for quite some time and i just want them to win lol

if the steelers loose they can almost kiss the playoffs goodbye. its a must win for em at home and i think they will deliver.

Let's not forget what the Steelers did to Cincy earlier in the season. They will do it again. That is why they will win.

And if they don't, I'll most likely break many things...

the last two games both pitt and cincy have played the same two teams, ravens and colts

the steelers scored around 20 something total points and cincy scored somewhere around 70 something total. those are rough numbers, i just heard them mentioning that on sportscenter.

if pitt doesnt get their running game back on track they aren't beating anybody

Well, I guess it goes to show that even when your quarterback throws for 386 yards, if the running game doesn't work, the Steelers don't win. It was a good game, but the mistakes just murdered us and that was the difference in the game. I could give two craps about Ben's thumb. He threw an amazing game today, but the three INT's just have no excuse. He threw into coverage all three times and deserved to get picked. Also, Parker couldn't hang onto the ball to save his life and Staley just sucks anymore. After this year, I say Bettis will retire, Staley will be traded, and Parker will be the main back.

Cincy proved that they have gotten better since the last time these two teams played. The Bengals will win the division because of the schedule they have to finish the season. All four teams have losing records. The Steelers will have to win out to have a shot at the Wild Card. They have Chicago and Minnesota in the next few weeks. They're going to have to step it up if they want to have any shot at the playoffs.

yeah i only saw about the last 2 mins of the game but you win some you loose some. it looked to be a good game by the score though.
also how about my bears coming back!

i will post more in a few.

the 72 dolphins went 17-0 not 19-0, back in 72 they had a 14 game regular season

well thank you for clearing that up.

I thought that, too, but wasn't sure. So technically, the Colts have to go 14-0 to match it and 15-0 to beat it. I know no one will really look at it that way if they lose the last game of the season (doubt it), but whatever.

I just need the Jags, Chargers and Chiefs to start losing so the Steelers can nab a Wild Card. lol

The colts probably won't go undefeated. All they have to do is beat jacksonville next week, and they win their division, the round 1 bye week, and home field advantage throughout the playoffs. I doubt they are going to be playing starters after that.

looks like its going to come to a 13-3... maybe 13 -2. After all Arizona isn't even much of a match for their backup's!

hmmm. . . let me start out first by saying out of 15 games so far i called 12. i missed 3/4 big divsional matchups. damn. they were all hard games to call. and they were all close.

now lets talk about the colts. they will probley play thier starter until about half time after the jags game, and then pull them. so its up to the colts o to make sure they have like a 60 point lead before half time. you never know. maybe they wont pull their starters after all. who knows. who cares? if they do not they will not be beat. its that simple.

oh about the steelers sorry man doesnt look like thier going to make the postseason. it could happen but i dont think it will. good luck though!

i'd take that bet

oh my... look who has 5 losses now too :applause: :)

lol for some reason, ive been checking this thread all day for that comment

i almost forgot i owed you one lol

Is anyone else enjoying the Eagles self-destrution more than I am?
If I were Demter or McMahon I'd ask for a security detail to my car, these fans are ****ED.
LOL They just pulled the punt team off because of the fans booing so loud.

terrible performance. But hey at least the redskins suck too lol. They'll be back near the top next year. Have to get a new DE and a go to wide receiver.

and QB

Honestly if you had McNuggett you'd be in it, I'm not going to say winning, but be in it, you're stuffing Alexander, his TDs have been pansy 2-3 yd runs, and thier reciving core has been incosintant. I don't think they'd have the same INTs from McNuggett, so take 21 off thier score right there, and without the 3 and outs maybe 7 more?

PS We beat Seattle and you ;)

99gapunk your saying that you think someone will beat the colts? come on man, think about it. they are by far the best team in the nfl.
also did anyone hear chad johnson's remarks? he said the bengles WILL BE in the super bowl. perhapes he forgot the road goes directly through indy. i personally think the guy is an a*s but thats just me.
the skins need the same thing the bears need. an o.

We need a legit #2 WR.

maybe t.o??

No, for several reasons.

1.) He wouldn't be content being a #2 to Moss.
2.) Gibbs contract he's also the President and has final say over Personel, he wouldn't have him.
3.) He wouldn't get this far.
4.) We wouldn't throw enough money at him, our cap numbers arn't pretty. Patton was to step up, but either he just sucks or his knee really was a problem.

Although his presence and knowledge of a divisional oppent would be nice, his cancerous nature isn't worth it.

he wouldnt be a #2 rec
gibbs wants anther super bowl
why not
only a one year contract

cancer only spreads if you let it.

What I ment by he wouldn't get this far is someone else with snatch him up fairly quickly.

Let me try to find a link for you, Gibbs pretty much said as long as he was there TO wouldn't see a Redskins uniform.

I honestly think he'll see another 3-4 yr incentive laced contract from a team.

I think they're fine there.

thats exactly what i'm saying.

the best team doesnt always win.
and cincinatti can definitely beat the colts in the playoffs if they prepare well enough, i dont have a doubt in my mind about that, will it happen? who knows. but i give them a lot more than a chance in hell that most people do

Cincinatti is good...but honestly if our defense shows up this time, and our offense is fired up, I think the playoff game won't be nearly as close. Cincinatti plays alot like us, but lets keep in mind that Carson Palmer and Chad Johnson got to where they were by studying Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison.