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12-09-2005 10:27 PM |
Didn't want to return back to this subject, but I saw this post over at GM Insidenews today and had to share it here (lives in NY and has a G6 GTP by the way):
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Originally Posted by Buick61
It took less than three months, and I'm now done with the G6.
It doesn't shift correctly (Dealer says it's normal)
The headlights are too dim
It's been in the shop since Monday night due to electrical issue involving the engine.
It rattles like a baby's...well, rattle
it just doesn't feel like it has 240hp.
and the power-steering cuts out at parking lot speeds...
If it's having issues already (less than 3,000 miles) I fear for the future.
So anyway, if I'm to give 'er the heave ho, I'll need something RWD.
I test drove the Dodge Charger SXT today (since I could surmise what the R/T would be like having owned a 300C), and was instantly impressed.
It's powerful, the transmission is seamless, and it drives/feels like it costs five or ten thousand more than the G6 did (In fact, it was stickered $1,000 less). Of course, that wasn't the Hemi. And the Hemi isn't that much more money. But it is still more money. Knowing how well it operates, I wouldn't mind having a V6 Charger, but it would bother me to have something called "Charger" and it not have a V8 rotating the rear wheels.
The other option is just to sell the G6, pay off the remainder of the loan, buy a 1996 Chevrolet Caprice LT1, and put the rest in a high-yield savings account.
A still further option is the Ford Mustang GT. I'd really like a 4-door, but a V8 RWD car for $26,500 is hard to ignore. But then again, it doesn't have stability control, my age would probably lead to a HIGH insurance premium, and it's not practical in the trunk department.
Decisions, decisions.
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Originally Posted by Buick61
You're right. This is my third new GM car. I was really hoping that all the hype and the promises of those on this very board would pan out. My last two GM cars ('98 Malibu and '00 Saturn L-Series V6) were rather problematic. I figured by the 2006 model year, they'd be on their game. They're not. And I'm ready to move on.
I, at least, gave them a third try.
I'm not a real fan of the GTO. Don't like the style, lack of trunk, and lack of stability control.
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Originally Posted by Buick61
As I said, if I decide to happily get rid of this car, I would only consider rear wheel drive. I can't even express how annoyed I am with the way they executed the G6 GTP's driveline.
Beyond the lack of power and the difficulty in shifting, the car has enough torque-steer to get you into trouble. Compounding the torque-steer is the fact that the tires follow the grooves in the pavement like a train follows tracks.
Yes, IAMCANADIAN, I knew this particular car had shifting issues when I made the purchase. I naively figured it could be easily corrected by a cable adjustment. The power/torque steer issue is something that I would not have known by the multiple test drives I took. I don't abuse the cars. I drive them in a respectful manner just to get a general feel. Beating them is generally frowned upon.
I bought the car because it was a reasonably priced, well-equipped manual tranny mid-sized four-door made by GM that seemed to have the right on-paper stats. I thought I'd give them another chance.
It all comes down to how much I can get back on trade in. I may be stuck with it for some time.
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Originally Posted by Buick61
It's all moot for now guys, the clincher was the horrifically abysmal trade-in value of the G6.
MSRP in September: $29,855 minus a $500 option package discount
Trade-in Value in December: $18,000
Let's do some analysis.
In two months and 2,300 miles of ownership, the car lost a whopping 40% of it's value. TWO MONTHS. Factor in that I actually paid $25,500, and it still lost an unacceptable 29%.
Some perspective.
My 300C stickered for $34,500 or thereabouts. I owned it for 15 months and accumulated 16,500 miles. The trade-in value was $28,000. The loss there was 18.8%. Now, I didn't pay sticker. I paid $31,000. The real loss in value over that stretch of time and mileage (and the car was dented) was just 9.7%.
Even if GM brings more compelling cars to the market (i.e. RWD), I don't believe I'll put them on my shopping list. GM burns its own customers with such poor resale by practically giving away comparable new cars. It's truly sad when a used Chrysler product is generally worth more than a used GM product. It's the facts, and it will not be ignored for my next purchase.
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Originally Posted by Buick61
When you're excited to own a certain car, and spend a lot of money on it, you want it to be perfect. I took a chance on a first year Chrysler product and it had issues. I wasn't pleased, to say the least. But the issues were corrected and what I was left with was an extraordinarily satisfying car. From driving dynamics, style, power, space, and even status. It was just a great thing to own for a 22 year old.
The difference with the G6 was that I wasn't expecting problems. It was the second model year. And GM is supposed to have the best quality among the domestics. Perhaps the biggest difference was that I bought the G6 mostly for practicality. Which, for car people, is a big mistake. Sure it's cheaper than the 300C, and I don't worry as much about parking scars and muddy shoes, but there's no visceral appeal. No emotional connection. It's a very well-optioned appliance. So when I buy a car for practicality purposes, and it starts to disappoint, there's no emotional part of me that is willing to overlook the faults.
And that's that.
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http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...2&page=1&pp=20
Hmm, pretty much goes hand in hand with what i've been saying. Additionally, it appears Bob (Amramm) was on point with the performance not feeling like what was printed on paper. And check out that resale value. My GOD! |
