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TEAM_AED 01-03-2003 02:36 PM

I dont need to read the constituion. I understand what he is trying to do. But its also un-ethical what he is trying to do. But he also stated *** is HIS distributor in which they are NOT!!! That is lying directly to your customers!! THats what Im saying. Pay attention! I understand its not illegal, but its still unethical. I didnt have the oppertunity to change my thread originally and remove illegal.

badassgrandam99 01-03-2003 03:04 PM

...it might be unethical in your eyes... but it's not illegal to resell a product for a mark-up... that happens all the time in business... not sure about the whole picture argument, but i think koolgt and amraam both have points...

rob... i do believe though with your music example that artists have one suits against another artist if the beat is too similar... even if it's just one note or two...

Tonyyank 01-03-2003 03:07 PM

Come on now guys...this thread started off ok!!

Try to keep it that way!!! :)

PACE 01-03-2003 04:38 PM

Not only is it NOT unethical....It is the AMERICAN WAY...

...buy low....sell high.

And if he buys kits from *** then sells them....then *** is his distrobuter weather Len likes it or not.

PACE keep it clean - peeps

quinton 01-03-2003 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMRAAM4
OK, here is what was said to me from a co-worker who is a very smart guy. Unless the photo, or file, is watermarked, copyrighted, trademarked, incorporated, etc., it is legal for another person to use it online so long as there are no distinguishing marks similar to what I referenced in my question above. On top of that, if there is an issue with the pic, the author of the pic (Kristi & SO for example) would have to initiate the legal action by going through the big court and legal drama, thus costing them time and money and probably not breaking even (your not gonna get thousands of dollars, etc.). In addition to that info, he said that small alterations in the picture (not removing watermarks, trademarks, etc.) would also make it acceptable to use the picture (i.e. changing the background, color of car, whatever).

For example..take the music industry..P.Diddy and many others sample music. If they sample a beat directly it is infringement, however, if they add a beat, remove a beat, change tempo, or tweek it any sort of way from the original, even if minute, it is legal.

My comments here are for informative purposes only. I have just been a little uneasy seeing people attack others because their car is pictured on the persons website. I don't want people threatening business owners and end up looking stupid. Plus, we should try to be educated car enthusiasts so as to not get labeled with a bad rap.

Once you click the button to take that picture, it becomes copyrighted and stays copyrighted until you die, plus some. If you upload a picture without a copyright notice on it, it will stay copyrighted by you as long as the website you posted to, is copyrighted itself.

xxxx JD xxxx 01-03-2003 05:09 PM

Ok now I try to not get involved with these kind of threads and call it a hunch but I feel it may be closed shortly but I want to express my opinion.

I understand it may be upsetting to you (TEAM_***) that someone other than *** is selling the kits online and yes they may not be a true bonefied distributor(even though *** is distributing the product to the party that purchased it), however ECAP is right that if I, or a company for that matter wants to buy a product and then resell that same product for even a profit of $1 it is my right to do so whether you or anyone else likes it or not. The bottomline is they (***) sells the kit for X amount of dollars to ImportStylez or any other customer. They (ImportStylez) then sells it to someone and makes a profit. Its the economic system. But they still went further to correct the problem you pointed out by directing me to contact *** directly as you can see in the email the sent to me. Either way *** doesn't lose money and if you look on the flipside they are actually getting free advertising. :thumbs:

As for the pictures I do not agree with using someone's pics without expressed permission, and I know you guys have emailed them and they are still there but if you notice the home page says "Thank you for previewing/downloading this WEBSITE PREVIEW LAYOUT designed by RageMedia.net." Have you ever thought maybe, just maybe the people who designed the site(Rage), not ImportStylez (Customer), hasn't gotten around to removing them? If its still there in a week then raise a stink. Its like getting pulled over by a cop for your tint and him telling you to take it off then following you to your house and giving you another ticket for still having it on.....things do sometimes take time.


....steps off podium.


JD

TEAM_AED 01-03-2003 05:11 PM

I see your point of view, and im not arguing his fact on that...

Sorry_Officer 01-03-2003 05:17 PM

I will not have my car affilitated with any site that is used for solicitation purposes. UNLESS, the owner of the site contacts me and asks via email.

Or in this case I am trying to get a deal on my Thermal Exhaust for my Integra:D

Then this guy can use my pic all he wants.

If he got the pic from cardomain, it has my email addy, if he got it here my email addy is around.

Just email ask and it's yours.

Right now APOC is the only site who can use my pics for sales.

xxxx JD xxxx 01-03-2003 06:01 PM

I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF "this site" AND "your own" BS!!!:rage:
We are all here for one reason, we are car enthusiasts that like Grand Am's, PERIOD! Heck I don't even own the car anymore and I still come around because I like the people here and I like the GA's. If you aren't happy here and the people annoy you so much then leave and go to *** Central.......no one is making you to stay.

Chris you start a thread badmouthing a company that you really know nothing about, say that they are a "a fraudulant company" and bad mouthing business practices "Which means he purchases the kit at the discounted price, marks them up and just orders them and has them shipped to your home straight from the distributor. This is a real stupid way to run your business." This can be considered slander by some and in my eyes this is an inappropriate way to handle things and could have been worded very differently. You set out from the begining to tarnish this site and that my friend is wrong. You may not agree with the business practice but call it a hunch but I'd say its a pretty common practice to purchase something for one price then sell it for another. :rolleyes: Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this the process most american businesses run? A car dealer buys a car for a price ups the price to sell it to a consumer............

TEAM_AED 01-03-2003 06:04 PM

you know what i heard "Blah blah blah Im a dirty tramp" Please. I am at aedcentral, I am at Gmpowertalk, I am at GAGT.com, I am at gaownersclub, I am at gmperformancetuning, I am at N-body, I have an opinion on the site and am entitled to it. If you dont like the thread. Dont read it.

:rolleyes: :confused:

TEAM_AED 01-03-2003 06:06 PM

I mean they jsut keep deleting my threads. SO just delete the whole post. Why not. This place is no better than the next. All delete happy. Dah Oh well no biggie.wtf

TEAM_AED 01-03-2003 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxx JD xxxx
I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF "this site" AND "your own" BS!!!:rage:


You set out from the begining to tarnish this site and that my friend is wrong.

Tarnish this site. you guys did that. I did nothing. I never came on here and started threads stating anything even remotly close to "GAGT sucks" or anything like that. If you got that, thats your problem. You take things way to seriosuly. Slow down before you have a heart attack. Trust me I dont take you that serious. SO just chill out. If I get banned so be it. But it be for stupid reasons. But whatever. :wave: wtf

iceman 01-03-2003 06:15 PM

Thanks for pointing out the info about that site using some member's photos without their permission...


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