Ask my roomate about Honda reliability. The rear main seal on his '95 Accord EX blew on the highway when the car was FOUR YEARS OLD, just about wrecking the engine as it spewed oil all over the highway. Now the thing is just a lemon, period...he hates it. See? People can have bad luck and hate Hondas too :thumbs:

I think the SE-R's are sweet. Some of you may remember I almost bought one a few months back. I would have gone through with it too if I could've managed the down payment. I think that magazines can be unfair too. The first review of the Grand Am GT by C&D totally ripped on it for being "too agressively styled" and for not backing up what the body lines promised. It's just one review... I have read a few reviews on the SE-R and all up until now, have been nothing but praise. I think that a SpecV is loads of fun to drive too! It's not as roomy as my GA and I just don't have the money to walk out on the GA.. (still upside down in payments...that's a whole other can of worms that I'm not going to open up though...)

Bottom line is that it's just ONE article and nobody should jump to conclusions either way.

Yeah, the F-body...blah blah.. A Corvette is faster and it's only a few thousand more than a fully loaded F-body, too. :rolleyes: Why mod an F-Body when you could buy a base model Corvette. A Viper is only a few thousand more than a fully loaded Corvette. Why mod a Corvette when you could buy a Viper? The cycle goes on...

A loaded SS is $32k...a base Corvette is $43k. You can do a lot with 11 grand...they aren't even CLOSE in price...then of course, the Viper is a mere $25k over a $50k Z06...the cycle indeed does go on :)

Just giving you crap, man :) They aren't as close as you think, but indeed I do know what you're saying. The old adage "speed costs, how fast you wanna go" is so true...

Except in the case of an SRT-4. THAT my friends, is a steal!!!!!!!

I'm not talking about ALL Grand AM and ALL Civic.... I'm talking about MY old grand am vs. MY civic.... I said the civic I have now is more reliable to the Grand AM I had...

pffft! Don't need near that much $$ Just spend up to $10,000 on a sportbike and leave all these little overpriced cars waaaaay in the dust! :thumbs: ;)

I have every right to make those comments I owned a GA for 3 years, traded it in and lost money on it. I'm not trashing the GA just saying the spec is much more fun to drive, automatics are no fun to me and GMs crappy suspension leaves much to be desired. GA mods cost a fortune, it didnt have great top end would fall on its face after 90...maybe my GA was a factory reject but my spec feels so much faster than it was, and damn sure handles much better cant even argue that.

If you think driving a car for 3 years and losing money on it is strange, then I don't know wtf you're talking about. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but it sounds like you're mad that you didn't get your money back for your GA after driving it 3 years...

yeah I know what you mean, and I'm glad you got my point aside from those number differences. The SRT-4 will indeed put many cars to shame. It's just sad to think that someday I'll have to be "scared" of racing a Neon! wtf

Losing SOME money sure... losing your asss... a little different.

GA's do drop like rocks for resale. That is what he is talking about. There are more people than you might think that are a little irritated at this. But, it is because "we" didn't research before "we" bought the car. I for one didn't honestly know they dropped in value that bloddy fast. But I did read Consumer Reports on the GA and considered the information I read to be rubbish. Turns out I am dissapointed becuase the information was pretty accurate.