2009 Corvette ZR1 pricing released: 638 HP For $103,000

[SpyhunteR]

honestly... you chevy humpers... the GTR is going to give the super vette a run for its money.
AWD vs. RWD... high tech vs. high tech... they're both lightning quick, they both will drive circles around most everything... this is just like a question on how you take your coffee in the morning.

I'd prefer both in my stable, as I do not see the point nor the need to nitpick on which one is better. I'd rather have both, period.

[GregFarz78]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Not even close. The GTR is over hyped. The 'vette is lighter, faster, and better looking by a mile.

The vette is definitely lighter but I bet they are both very close to the same times 0-60 and 1/4 mile

[2003SCT]

The GTR is nice and fast as hell...but it will take the Spec V to even come CLOSE to that 131 mph trap speed at the end of the quarter. That is haulin.

CHRIS

[SpyhunteR]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124017

it'll be within shouting distance.

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by 2003SCT

The GTR is nice and fast as hell...but it will take the Spec V to even come CLOSE to that 131 mph trap speed at the end of the quarter. That is haulin.

CHRIS

That's assuming they make a spec V. Everything I've been reading on the GTR says it will be some time before they come out with a higher model, if at all... and with the low volume of production and ban on modification to it in Japan, the aftermarket for the GTR is going to be non-existant. The 'vette can still be taken to higher levels if you want. I think the GTR is still a cool car, I just don't think it can compete with the 'vette with that kind of disadvantage.

[monaroCountry]

Originally Posted by 2003SCT

The GTR is nice and fast as hell...but it will take the Spec V to even come CLOSE to that 131 mph trap speed at the end of the quarter. That is haulin.

CHRIS

Originally Posted by 2003SCT

The GTR is nice and fast as hell...but it will take the Spec V to even come CLOSE to that 131 mph trap speed at the end of the quarter. That is haulin.

CHRIS

Consider this, GM's performance numbers are usually lower than what a typical owner can achieve stock. A stock corvette with stock tires has already ran a best of 10.981 at 128.9mph, GM official figures has the ZO6 as a 11.7sec quarter mile car. Also notice that GM released the top speed of 205mph when the car has already achieved a best of 208mph.

I very much doubt the V-Spec can trap anywhere near the ZR1. The stock GTR normally traps in the 116mph region. Even the modified 480rwhp Haltech GTR only traps 124mph at 11.1sec.

The ZR1's quarter mile time and trap speed is closer to the Ferrari Enzo than anything, it's power is also in line with the Enzo. Judging by the trap speed and power a good driver should be able to get the ZR1 down to 10.5-10.9.

Official Z06 spec:
Quarter-mile elapsed time of 11.7 seconds at 125 mph

Official ZR1 spec:
Quarter-mile elapsed time of 11.3 seconds at 131 mph

[silvergtjrad]

Zo6<gtr<zr1

[monaroCountry]

Originally Posted by SpyhunteR

honestly... you chevy humpers... the GTR is going to give the super vette a run for its money.
AWD vs. RWD... high tech vs. high tech... they're both lightning quick, they both will drive circles around most everything... this is just like a question on how you take your coffee in the morning.

I'd prefer both in my stable, as I do not see the point nor the need to nitpick on which one is better. I'd rather have both, period.

The Corvette ZR1 would be far more comfortable for daily driving (compared with the stock GTR and especially the Sec V). It also looks far better.

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

The Corvette ZR1 would be far more comfortable for daily driving (compared with the stock GTR and especially the Sec V). It also looks far better.

That's a complete opinionated comment. Until you at least sit in both, don't talk out of your ass.

How will the GTR be less favorable to daily drive?

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

Consider this, GM's performance numbers are usually lower than what a typical owner can achieve stock. A stock corvette with stock tires has already ran a best of 10.981 at 128.9mph, GM official figures has the ZO6 as a 11.7sec quarter mile car. Also notice that GM released the top speed of 205mph when the car has already achieved a best of 208mph.

I very much doubt the V-Spec can trap anywhere near the ZR1. The stock GTR normally traps in the 116mph region. Even the modified 480rwhp Haltech GTR only traps 124mph at 11.1sec.

The ZR1's quarter mile time and trap speed is closer to the Ferrari Enzo than anything, it's power is also in line with the Enzo. Judging by the trap speed and power a good driver should be able to get the ZR1 down to 10.5-10.9.

Official Z06 spec:
Quarter-mile elapsed time of 11.7 seconds at 125 mph

Official ZR1 spec:
Quarter-mile elapsed time of 11.3 seconds at 131 mph

Only 480hp? And running 11's? That sounds pretty representative give or take for a car with that power.

The GTR gets a lot of oomph from it's gearing, which tells me it will haul ass off the line, but the top end will suffer just a bit, yet it will still pull out impressive as can be numbers.

The thing that gets me is the GTR retail isn't in the same ballpark as the ZR1. The GTR's retail is more inline with the Z06 and Viper.

[SpyhunteR]

Just some added info on the GTR to go along w/ all the bashing.

Performance

Nissan claims a top speed of 310 km/h (193 mph) and various sources have achieved 0-97 km/h (0-60 mph) times of between 3.2 and 3.8 seconds.[27][28][29][30] Edmunds.com achieved a standing 1/4-mile time of 11.6 s at 190 km/h (118 mph) using the GT-R's launch control system. Edmunds also speculated that faster times may be achievable on better road conditions than provided by the runway which they used for the test.[31] Car and Driver achieved a standing 1/4-mile time of 11.5 s at 200 km/h (124 mph).[32] Evo magazine achieved a 0-100-0 mph time of 13.9 seconds, one tenth of a second quicker than a Corvette Z06 tested under identical conditions.[33] AutoCar achieved a 0-100 MPH time of 8.5 seconds.[34] With a lap time of 7:29 on standard Japanese market tires, the standard-spec GT-R is currently one of the fastest production cars ever to lap the Nurburgring circuit.[35][36]

In various comparisons with various criteria, the GT-R has outperformed the Audi R8, Chevrolet Corvette Z06, BMW M3, Lotus Elise SC, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X MR, Porsche 911 Carrera, Porsche 911 GT3, Porsche 911 Turbo, and Subaru Impreza WRX STI in.[37][38][39][40][41][42][43][44]

Numerous reviewers have compared the GT-R to a Bugatti Veyron, calling it a "baby Veyron" and "mini Veyron".[45][46][47]

[SpyhunteR]

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/index...Beat-Ring-Time

""" news hit last month of the 2009 Corvette ZR1 running the Nürburgring, many of us were a bit disappointed to hear that lap times were averaging in the low 7:40s. After all, Jan Magnussen took a 2005 Corvette Z06 around the ring in 7:42.9 and the new Corvette ZR1 should be faster than that, right? So we kept reminding ourselves about how the track was wet and cold and that the timing was by hand and that the car held two occupants. Corvette's Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter told us not to worry as the "ZR1 will beat the track record for production cars at any road course in the world."

That's a fairly tall order, especially in the light of the recent 7:29 Nürburgring performance by Nissan's GT-R. Think about that for a minute. The Corvette Z06 piloted by a professional race car driver was nearly 14 seconds slower than the new AWD wonder."""

[AaronGTR]

That corvette Z06 that he drove was also a bone stock production model. There's been all kinds of controversy about the GTR's 7:29 time because the car wasn't a final production model and was running on race slicks and not the street tires the car will come with from the factory.

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

That corvette Z06 that he drove was also a bone stock production model. There's been all kinds of controversy about the GTR's 7:29 time because the car wasn't a final production model and was running on race slicks and not the street tires the car will come with from the factory.

times are times, suck it up.

[GregFarz78]

The ZR1 also has almost 200hp and about 600 lbs less on the GTR too...its pretty impressive to be hanging in there with the ZR1 given those numbers. I'd be happy with either one of them

[bigbenSC]

The ZR1- GTR discussion boils down to one thing: Can the ZR1 put all that power down, or will it just roast the tires through 1st and 2nd gear? Until someone puts the two cars together under the same circumstances we won't really know. If the power gets to the road reliably the GTR is toast... if not, the ZR1 could be really embarrassed.

Either way, the C6 is much better looking than the GTR can ever dream to be.

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by SpyhunteR

times are times, suck it up.

No they aren't. Times are not comparable when they are run on different class tires. The slicks alone could make a 14sec difference on a track that long. Put the 'vette on slick and see what it would do. Also word is the GTR interior was partially stripped out. You can not make a fair comparison between those two cars. It has to be a final production car in production trim for the time to stand in the books as well.

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

No they aren't. Times are not comparable when they are run on different class tires. The slicks alone could make a 14sec difference on a track that long. Put the 'vette on slick and see what it would do. Also word is the GTR interior was partially stripped out. You can not make a fair comparison between those two cars. It has to be a final production car in production trim for the time to stand in the books as well.

yourself and your sources are being disputed by what I have been finding and reading.

http://www.nissaneurope-newsbureau.c...95056384513968

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times

http://translate.google.com/translat...F8&sl=ja&tl=en

http://www.fastestlaps.com/index.php...e&filter4=true

considering many sources are accepting the GTR ran what it ran. We'll have to wait and see what the ZR1 pulls out of its ass.

[SpyhunteR]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...w-t220168.html

a lil more about the supposed "slicks".

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...GT-R-Tyres.htm

still a street tire. *wah wah wah*

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by SpyhunteR

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...w-t220168.html

a lil more about the supposed "slicks".

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...GT-R-Tyres.htm

still a street tire. *wah wah wah*

The article I read, those weren't the tires used on it. The tires on it were full race slicks, no tread at all. I haven't seen anything saying the GTR ran the record time again at a later date on street treads. You just want to beat off to pics of it 'cause it's a nissan.