I broke it... :(

sqeet · 07-07-2008, 03:47 PM

x-posted:

It's been quite some time since I've posted and I return to you with sad pictures:

The quality is kind of sub-par, since this was taken with my cellphone. I have a question, though. In the first pic, the rear quarter panel is pretty bent up. Is this sorta thing fixable? Or am i looking at having my car totaled out by the insurance?

It's on 03, with 72k miles on it. kbb values it at 7800 private party, but 9500 retail. I'm nervous. Don't want my baby to die!

P.S. Don't ask how it happened. It was a mix of me not paying attention and then poor recovery abilities. The rules that apply to fish-tailing on slippery surfaces will not help you recover on dry...

stillriza · 07-07-2008, 03:49 PM

Glad ur arite though.

...So what happened??

boost21 · 07-07-2008, 04:19 PM

Damn that crinkle by the gas door is what concerns me. did the air bags go off? Sorry to see that, where in Ill did this happen?

timberwoof · 07-07-2008, 05:17 PM

damn, if the car is paid off, more than likely they will total it, if not repair it and raise your premium like a mother.

Nick-G · 07-07-2008, 05:26 PM

That sucks that wont be easy to fix.

WeibSunder · 07-07-2008, 06:50 PM

A little mothers polish, a rotary, and some Windex will get that right out.

I'm with boost21, that body crinkle is what might total it.

Rexter · 07-07-2008, 07:43 PM

Thats more than fixable.... my alero had far more damage in the rear end, and it was repaired.... and my rear quarter panel had a massive crinkle in it (I was stopped an an intersection, waiting for the truck in front of me to turn, person driving the civic had a seizure and lost control... he clipped the drivers side rear end at about 60km/h)

DrFabulous · 07-07-2008, 09:01 PM

Glad to hear your ok.

Coming from someone that has totaled a Grand Am, I'd say you probably will never drive it again.

AaronGTR · 07-07-2008, 10:28 PM

Fixable yes. The rear quarter will be the hardest to get it to come out looking right since that's not a part they can just unbolt and put a new one on. It looks like mostly cosmetic damage though and not anything that would affect the cars drivability (ie put a new tail light in and it could be driven).

The front end is where the price could really go up and determine whether or not they total it. It's pretty much impossible to tell from those pics how much damage the front has, but there are a lot more parts up there that have a chance of being damaged and needing replaced, plus possibility of frame damage, all of which would drive the cost way up depending on the extent. I'd say it's definitely fixable though. Mine was much much worse and it's running today.

cardude007617 · 07-07-2008, 10:34 PM

well from a quick look over hes gonna need a new taillight, new bumper, the trunk alignment has to be focked up, the rear pass side quarter panel has to be straightened out, new hood, 2 new head lights, new header panel, new front bumper, new pass side front quarter panel, the frame has to be twisted a bit, i can only assume theres some damage to the radiator.

thats quite a list. best of luck with having it repaired, its even better your ok

blario · 07-07-2008, 10:46 PM

you'd be surprised what a uni-potter in the right hands can do. other than that everything else is replacable. No worries man, insurance should cover it.

blario · 07-07-2008, 10:51 PM

not too sure if they'll replace that hood though...not OEM.

Bryan · 07-07-2008, 11:02 PM

^The hood is OEM.

That sucks man, hope it works out for you.

blario · 07-07-2008, 11:14 PM

GT hoods are fibreglass?

Black Knight · 07-08-2008, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Fixable yes. The rear quarter will be the hardest to get it to come out looking right since that's not a part they can just unbolt and put a new one on. It looks like mostly cosmetic damage though and not anything that would affect the cars drivability (ie put a new tail light in and it could be driven).

The front end is where the price could really go up and determine whether or not they total it. It's pretty much impossible to tell from those pics how much damage the front has, but there are a lot more parts up there that have a chance of being damaged and needing replaced, plus possibility of frame damage, all of which would drive the cost way up depending on the extent. I'd say it's definitely fixable though. Mine was much much worse and it's running today.

Agreed. Used quarters arent cheap as is let alone a new one.

It is definetly fixable. I am going to definetly say that thing is dang close to totaled. The front end damage on Grand Ams is so expensive. If you did any damage to the radiator support the front end alone is gonna cost in upwards of $4k.

I see:
Rear Bumper Cover
Rear Bumper Reinforcement Bar
Rear Foam Reinforcement Pad
Passenger Taillight
Passenger Quarter
Front Cover
Hood
Pass Fender
Pass Headlight
Headlight Mount Panel

I work in a shop. Last GA we had was $5800 in front end damage, hood, fenders, bumper, radiator support, radiator, A/C Condenser.

Hope it comes out ok.

BTW that quarter is way too wadded up in the rear corner to use a uni spot on. They'll have to replace it new or used parts. Keep in mind most insurance compaines use the 65-75% of value total system. If repairs exceed 75% of vehicle value its a definite total.

SSRacer · 07-08-2008, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blario

GT hoods are fibreglass?

SC/T hoods and spoilers could be had from the factory or dealer on a new car starting in either late 02 or in 03. It was just an option to check off.

sqeet · 07-08-2008, 08:37 AM

I had a spinout on a freeway entrance ramp in Detroit. I tried to drift out of it and the car just kept spinning...I've never had a spinout on dry pavement before, so I didnt think to accelerate out of it. The airbags never deployed, though. The car rides just fine and I even let go of the wheel driving back to Chicago on the highway and the car didn't pull to any one side or anything like that. So, Im not sure if the frame is twisted at all. I'm kinda hoping it's repairable. Ive never dealt with totaling a car before. Let alone trying to deal with settling with the loan company and replacing the vehicle.

I do have a question, though: I bought the car used from a dealer. It only has 72k miles on it. kbb values it at 7800 private party and 9500 retail with that mileage. If it does get totaled, which value with the insurance company use to pay out?

And yeah, the SC/T hood and spoiler are OEM.

LukeL · 07-08-2008, 10:52 AM

The insurance will give the "value" of the car they determine. It can be anything "around" the 2 numbers.

Is it fixable?...sure is, anything with metal is

EDIT: Buy a donor car, or 2.

elementdrummer · 07-08-2008, 01:34 PM

so are you going to get a new hood, or try and fix that one? if your going to get a new one, then pm me and i will buy the old. good thing ur ok tho, and that car is totally fixable. i would be worried the unibody might be tweaked a bit, if it is they will definately total it.

sqeet · 07-08-2008, 01:37 PM

Why would you want to buy that old cracked thing?

07-07-2008, 03:47 PM	#1
sqeet GAGT - Newbie AKA: Sqeet Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 23 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coupe	I broke it... :( x-posted: It's been quite some time since I've posted and I return to you with sad pictures: The quality is kind of sub-par, since this was taken with my cellphone. I have a question, though. In the first pic, the rear quarter panel is pretty bent up. Is this sorta thing fixable? Or am i looking at having my car totaled out by the insurance? It's on 03, with 72k miles on it. kbb values it at 7800 private party, but 9500 retail. I'm nervous. Don't want my baby to die! P.S. Don't ask how it happened. It was a mix of me not paying attention and then poor recovery abilities. The rules that apply to fish-tailing on slippery surfaces will not help you recover on dry...

07-07-2008, 03:49 PM	#2
stillriza does not compute AKA: Reds Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ajax, Ontario Age: 38 Posts: 2,034 Vehicle: 00110110101	Glad ur arite though. ...So what happened?? __________________ Why geeks like computers: unzip, strip, touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, more, yes,fsck,fsck,fsck,umount, sleep. "If the Start Windows Restart when Windows starts check box is checked Windows Restart will start automatically every time Windows is started. - Actual excerpt from a windows program help file"

07-07-2008, 05:26 PM	#5
Nick-G Boost Addict AKA: Nick Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St Cloud, Minnesota Age: 31 Posts: 1,290 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT V6	That sucks that wont be easy to fix. __________________ BUILT Turbo 3400/4t65e-HD powered Grand AM in the making. ---------------------------------- www.motorsportsevolved.com Get updates on Facebook ----------------------------------

07-07-2008, 06:50 PM	#6
WeibSunder Got Airway? AKA: Matt Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Evergreen,NC Age: 36 Posts: 1,337 Vehicle: 06 Dodge Magnum	A little mothers polish, a rotary, and some Windex will get that right out. I'm with boost21, that body crinkle is what might total it. __________________ Kenntnis ist Kraft Air goes in and out, blood goes round and round. Any variation in this, is a bad thing!

07-07-2008, 09:01 PM	#8
DrFabulous FIGJAM AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: MN Posts: 9,675 Vehicle: Acura\|Chevy\|Porsche	Glad to hear your ok. Coming from someone that has totaled a Grand Am, I'd say you probably will never drive it again. __________________ '18 Acura MDX Kid hauler '15 Chevrolet Tahoe Toy Hauler '01 Porsche Boxster Project

07-07-2008, 04:19 PM	#3
boost21 GAGT - Senior Member AKA: -_- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,766 Vehicle: turbo ls1	Damn that crinkle by the gas door is what concerns me. did the air bags go off? Sorry to see that, where in Ill did this happen?

07-07-2008, 05:17 PM	#4
timberwoof Law Dawg AKA: Cody Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portland Tx Posts: 1,827 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am SE1	damn, if the car is paid off, more than likely they will total it, if not repair it and raise your premium like a mother.

07-07-2008, 07:43 PM	#7
Rexter GAGT - Member AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada Posts: 42 Vehicle: 03 Alero	Thats more than fixable.... my alero had far more damage in the rear end, and it was repaired.... and my rear quarter panel had a massive crinkle in it (I was stopped an an intersection, waiting for the truck in front of me to turn, person driving the civic had a seizure and lost control... he clipped the drivers side rear end at about 60km/h)

07-07-2008, 10:28 PM	#9
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Fixable yes. The rear quarter will be the hardest to get it to come out looking right since that's not a part they can just unbolt and put a new one on. It looks like mostly cosmetic damage though and not anything that would affect the cars drivability (ie put a new tail light in and it could be driven). The front end is where the price could really go up and determine whether or not they total it. It's pretty much impossible to tell from those pics how much damage the front has, but there are a lot more parts up there that have a chance of being damaged and needing replaced, plus possibility of frame damage, all of which would drive the cost way up depending on the extent. I'd say it's definitely fixable though. Mine was much much worse and it's running today. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

07-07-2008, 10:34 PM	#10
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	well from a quick look over hes gonna need a new taillight, new bumper, the trunk alignment has to be focked up, the rear pass side quarter panel has to be straightened out, new hood, 2 new head lights, new header panel, new front bumper, new pass side front quarter panel, the frame has to be twisted a bit, i can only assume theres some damage to the radiator. thats quite a list. best of luck with having it repaired, its even better your ok __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

07-07-2008, 10:46 PM	#11
blario Ubernoob AKA: Blair Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: British columbia Age: 44 Posts: 53 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	you'd be surprised what a uni-potter in the right hands can do. other than that everything else is replacable. No worries man, insurance should cover it. __________________

07-07-2008, 10:51 PM	#12
blario Ubernoob AKA: Blair Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: British columbia Age: 44 Posts: 53 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	not too sure if they'll replace that hood though...not OEM. __________________

07-07-2008, 11:02 PM	#13
Bryan GAGT - Junkie AKA: Bryan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Age: 32 Posts: 4,269 Vehicle: '09.5 G6	^The hood is OEM. That sucks man, hope it works out for you. __________________ CarDomain (Updated 10/9)

07-07-2008, 11:14 PM	#14
blario Ubernoob AKA: Blair Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: British columbia Age: 44 Posts: 53 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	GT hoods are fibreglass? __________________

07-08-2008, 08:37 AM	#17
sqeet GAGT - Newbie AKA: Sqeet Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 23 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coupe	I had a spinout on a freeway entrance ramp in Detroit. I tried to drift out of it and the car just kept spinning...I've never had a spinout on dry pavement before, so I didnt think to accelerate out of it. The airbags never deployed, though. The car rides just fine and I even let go of the wheel driving back to Chicago on the highway and the car didn't pull to any one side or anything like that. So, Im not sure if the frame is twisted at all. I'm kinda hoping it's repairable. Ive never dealt with totaling a car before. Let alone trying to deal with settling with the loan company and replacing the vehicle. I do have a question, though: I bought the car used from a dealer. It only has 72k miles on it. kbb values it at 7800 private party and 9500 retail with that mileage. If it does get totaled, which value with the insurance company use to pay out? And yeah, the SC/T hood and spoiler are OEM.

07-08-2008, 10:52 AM	#18
LukeL Clean Cruiser AKA: Luke Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Seneca, NY Age: 38 Posts: 216 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Coupe	The insurance will give the "value" of the car they determine. It can be anything "around" the 2 numbers. Is it fixable?...sure is, anything with metal is EDIT: Buy a donor car, or 2. __________________ 1999 Grand Am GT http://www.cardomain.com/id/dirac399 Last edited by LukeL; 07-08-2008 at 10:57 AM.

07-08-2008, 01:34 PM	#19
elementdrummer BlueRazor AKA: Branden Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: blaine, minn Age: 32 Posts: 178 Vehicle: 1999 grand am se	so are you going to get a new hood, or try and fix that one? if your going to get a new one, then pm me and i will buy the old. good thing ur ok tho, and that car is totally fixable. i would be worried the unibody might be tweaked a bit, if it is they will definately total it.

07-08-2008, 01:37 PM	#20
sqeet GAGT - Newbie AKA: Sqeet Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 23 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coupe	Why would you want to buy that old cracked thing?

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