camshafts, injectors, pistons - Page 5

gectek · 07-19-2008, 10:14 PM

no...first you want to make sure it runs right. then you can start looking at performance. the 2.3 ho cams are a place to start...just follow the steps. first make it reliable

----edit scratch the cams if you go with a 2.2...srry

CantBeatIt96 · 07-19-2008, 10:18 PM

its kinda reliable.

. it got me to baltimore and back

. i was surprised. but any ways. what about secret cams are they better or the same, and i was goin to do a light weight crank pulley, i can do that very simply, once i get my new engine everything is out in the open.

? what is the best oil filter and oil to put in it. it has like 100K miles but the engine i found has like 80K, im figuring an ACDelco filter but whats the best oil.

KhellendrosxS · 07-20-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CantBeatIt96

? what is the best oil filter and oil to put in it. it has like 100K miles but the engine i found has like 80K, im figuring an ACDelco filter but whats the best oil.

NAPA Gold filters meet or exceed OEM specs and its what Ive been using ever since Ive been old enough to drive but ACDelco will be just as good too. Its all a matter of personal preference. Avoid FRAM filters, they have cardboard endcaps that will let oil bypass the fiter and just let the dirty oil circulate.

As far as oil goes there are vaying opinions on what to use but for a street driven car Mobil 1 comes readily to mind. If you are going all out at the track every weekend an oil like AMSoil or Royal Purple would probably be a good (albeit expensive) choice.

O1GAGT · 07-20-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CantBeatIt96

its kinda reliable.

. it got me to baltimore and back

. i was surprised. but any ways. what about secret cams are they better or the same, and i was goin to do a light weight crank pulley, i can do that very simply, once i get my new engine everything is out in the open.

? what is the best oil filter and oil to put in it. it has like 100K miles but the engine i found has like 80K, im figuring an ACDelco filter but whats the best oil.

The 2.3L cams are the "secret cams"

You need to do a lot of reading and work on your comprehension skills before you attempt any of this.

CantBeatIt96 · 07-20-2008, 10:53 PM

im actually thinkin of droppin a 2.3L HO engine in, im on quad4forums and people say i can swap out with a few minor mods to the wiring and ECU, so i might just do that then start there. i know im gettin a supercharger for sure. just not yet, cuz im still workin on a better job so i can afford the mods i need without gettin shet.

. but i, not plannin to do anything major im gettin bike soon so i want that to be my summer daily. if i can, much better gas milage. but anyways im still keepin the car on the options list, for mods. but ya im finding more info for that car to do better for Hp,

i figured that the 2.3L cams were the secret cams but i figured i ask.

SpyhunteR · 07-21-2008, 03:19 PM

it's not worth dropping in a 2.3HO

CantBeatIt96 · 07-21-2008, 09:07 PM

well if i can get the HO motor would it be better then the 2.4L or just do some swappin of HO parts to the 2.4L. i really want the HO oil pump i heard that really does alot to the power. am i wrong.

AaronGTR · 07-21-2008, 09:43 PM

Changing an oil pump will not affect your power much. It can affect durability though if it changes the pressure and the motor isn't designed for it. Just ask the v6 people who tried to use the GMP high volume oil pump on motors with stock clearances... and ended up getting new motors.

CantBeatIt96 · 07-21-2008, 09:57 PM

how much Hp do the 2.3L have

i know the 2.4L come stock with 150 in the motor, not sure on what hits the road.

will the 2000 GA injectors just be like plug and play to my engine or do i need some other things. im tryin to find out, i know i need them from a 2.4L but is there anything else

CantBeatIt96 · 07-21-2008, 10:01 PM

well i know alot of people that do it. i have the other forum site and alot of them do it and they say its really worth the money but i dont want to modify the oil pan and all. but they all say its worth it, just seein what you guys say

SpyhunteR · 07-22-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Changing an oil pump will not affect your power much. It can affect durability though if it changes the pressure and the motor isn't designed for it. Just ask the v6 people who tried to use the GMP high volume oil pump on motors with stock clearances... and ended up getting new motors.

Changing to the 2.3L oil pump is a good idea. It just requires some machining and backyard inginuity.

It deletes the balance shafts that are integrated into the 2.4L oil pump design. The 2.3L pump ditches the balance shafts and replaces that with a more sanely styled oil pick up and windage tray.

CantBeatIt96 · 07-22-2008, 10:41 AM

does it do anything to you MPG, and how much does all the work nomally run or could i do it myself if i had the tool and help from a mechanic. if so like what tools do i need. not sure im probably wrong but could i use like an oil pan or something from a 2.3L or no, and im geussin its worth the money. is the fuel pump different in the 2.3L like could i do a swap on that too.

CantBeatIt96 · 07-23-2008, 10:31 PM

ive heard that replaceing my engine with a 2.3L HO motor depending on the year car and hte motor, that i will have better hp. then with the added stuff i have now ill have about 200 or more.

SpyhunteR · 07-24-2008, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CantBeatIt96

does it do anything to you MPG, and how much does all the work nomally run or could i do it myself if i had the tool and help from a mechanic. if so like what tools do i need. not sure im probably wrong but could i use like an oil pan or something from a 2.3L or no, and im geussin its worth the money. is the fuel pump different in the 2.3L like could i do a swap on that too.

i'm sure it does plenty to your MPG, it just depends on how you TUNE the motor.

Do you need certain tools, yes you need certain tools. A machine shop would be better equipped to do the work. A 2.3L oil pan will not fit, nor bolt on. The fuel pump in your 2.4L will be similar to that in a 2.3L. You have no reason to upgrade your fuel pump unless if you're pushing over 300hp. If you want a nice easy upgrade. Beef up the power wiring and ground wiring to the fuel pump.

SpyhunteR · 07-24-2008, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CantBeatIt96

ive heard that replaceing my engine with a 2.3L HO motor depending on the year car and hte motor, that i will have better hp. then with the added stuff i have now ill have about 200 or more.

Sorta, but not really.

My attitude is different to the rest of the people who believe in the quad 4 motors. i would prefer to work off of the 2.4L twin cam motor and pick n choose pieces from the 2.3L motors to make the motor that I want. Instead of going backwards with an older motor into a newer vehicle.

Going with an older motor in any newer vehicle is illegal for the most part from an emissions standpoint, as you're reverting to an older style emissions setup as well, plus the older engine in a generally speaking fashion also has lower emissions require.....................

**** the 2.3HO unless if you had a 2.3Ho equipped car. you can do as much w/ a 2.4L mixing and matching parts and in my opinion be more satisfied.

CantBeatIt96 · 07-24-2008, 11:55 AM

well here we have no emission in adams county, so i dont need to worry about the emissions. but im not sure. im still thinkin.

gtdreams · 07-24-2008, 09:15 PM

fight fight fight

.

CantBeatIt96 · 07-24-2008, 10:02 PM

wtf, what is that for^^^^^^

SpyhunteR · 07-25-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CantBeatIt96

well here we have no emission in adams county, so i dont need to worry about the emissions. but im not sure. im still thinkin.

then drop in the 2.3Ho you so badly want.

CantBeatIt96 · 07-25-2008, 08:43 PM

wtf dude im tryin to get all the facts from everyone. not just tell you that i really want this engine i want the fockin facts. calm down dude. wow. i stated my fact that we dont have emissions here so we didnt worry about that anymore too. so calm down there heizuse

07-19-2008, 10:14 PM	#81
gectek I hate nose hair AKA: John Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 2,051 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT sc/t	no...first you want to make sure it runs right. then you can start looking at performance. the 2.3 ho cams are a place to start...just follow the steps. first make it reliable ----edit scratch the cams if you go with a 2.2...srry __________________ If you unscrew ur belly button, will ur butt fall off? Procrastinators UNITE!!!.....tomorrow

07-21-2008, 03:19 PM	#86
SpyhunteR #1 hater AKA: Rob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Age: 38 Posts: 4,968 Vehicle: 01' 2.4T GA / 08 TBSS	it's not worth dropping in a 2.3HO __________________ Hey kids going to Vegas? Let me help you help me help you! Shoot me an email or PM for all your Vegas Night Club bottle hallucinations & strip club desires! FACEBOOKFACE! "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."

07-21-2008, 09:43 PM	#88
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Changing an oil pump will not affect your power much. It can affect durability though if it changes the pressure and the motor isn't designed for it. Just ask the v6 people who tried to use the GMP high volume oil pump on motors with stock clearances... and ended up getting new motors. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

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07-19-2008, 10:18 PM	#82
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	its kinda reliable. . it got me to baltimore and back . i was surprised. but any ways. what about secret cams are they better or the same, and i was goin to do a light weight crank pulley, i can do that very simply, once i get my new engine everything is out in the open. ? what is the best oil filter and oil to put in it. it has like 100K miles but the engine i found has like 80K, im figuring an ACDelco filter but whats the best oil.

07-20-2008, 10:53 PM	#85
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	im actually thinkin of droppin a 2.3L HO engine in, im on quad4forums and people say i can swap out with a few minor mods to the wiring and ECU, so i might just do that then start there. i know im gettin a supercharger for sure. just not yet, cuz im still workin on a better job so i can afford the mods i need without gettin shet. . but i, not plannin to do anything major im gettin bike soon so i want that to be my summer daily. if i can, much better gas milage. but anyways im still keepin the car on the options list, for mods. but ya im finding more info for that car to do better for Hp, i figured that the 2.3L cams were the secret cams but i figured i ask.

07-21-2008, 09:07 PM	#87
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	well if i can get the HO motor would it be better then the 2.4L or just do some swappin of HO parts to the 2.4L. i really want the HO oil pump i heard that really does alot to the power. am i wrong.

07-21-2008, 09:57 PM	#89
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	how much Hp do the 2.3L have i know the 2.4L come stock with 150 in the motor, not sure on what hits the road. will the 2000 GA injectors just be like plug and play to my engine or do i need some other things. im tryin to find out, i know i need them from a 2.4L but is there anything else

07-21-2008, 10:01 PM	#90
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	well i know alot of people that do it. i have the other forum site and alot of them do it and they say its really worth the money but i dont want to modify the oil pan and all. but they all say its worth it, just seein what you guys say

07-22-2008, 10:41 AM	#92
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	does it do anything to you MPG, and how much does all the work nomally run or could i do it myself if i had the tool and help from a mechanic. if so like what tools do i need. not sure im probably wrong but could i use like an oil pan or something from a 2.3L or no, and im geussin its worth the money. is the fuel pump different in the 2.3L like could i do a swap on that too.

07-23-2008, 10:31 PM	#93
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	ive heard that replaceing my engine with a 2.3L HO motor depending on the year car and hte motor, that i will have better hp. then with the added stuff i have now ill have about 200 or more.

07-24-2008, 11:55 AM	#96
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	well here we have no emission in adams county, so i dont need to worry about the emissions. but im not sure. im still thinkin.

07-24-2008, 10:02 PM	#98
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	wtf, what is that for^^^^^^

07-25-2008, 08:43 PM	#100
CantBeatIt96 I like Men AKA: Zak Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hanvoer, PA Age: 32 Posts: 484 Vehicle: 1996 Grand Am 5 speed	wtf dude im tryin to get all the facts from everyone. not just tell you that i really want this engine i want the fockin facts. calm down dude. wow. i stated my fact that we dont have emissions here so we didnt worry about that anymore too. so calm down there heizuse