Turbo folks. Past/Presant. Some info please.

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by Nick-G

I just dont get why people like you still hang around these boards. IMO you have no right to bash the ga for being slow just because you failed at making it fast yourself... I could care less how fast your zo6 is you can brag about it all you want but no one here really cares.

The whole point of this thread is to help someone new make a fast ga not sit and tell everyone to take the easy way out like you. Sure your car is faster than just about any car here but who focking cares anyone with money can go buy a fast car but it actually takes somethink to make a slow car fast.

For a lot of us its not about having the fastest car around its about racing our hard work down the track and seeing results... but I guess we will always have people like you who take the easy way out and buy a fast car.

^

You learn more by building your own car. You appreciate it more, and other people pay more attention when you do something unique and make a slow car fast. If all I wanted was the fastest car I could afford, I would have sold my GA a long time ago because I could have bought a lot of other things for what I spent on it. However by doing what I've done, I know a lot more about cars in general than a lot of mustang/camaro/'vette owners out there who are complete dumbasses.

[XtremeGaGt00]

Originally Posted by aarongtr

^

You learn more by building your own car. You appreciate it more, and other people pay more attention when you do something unique and make a slow car fast. If all i wanted was the fastest car i could afford, i would have sold my ga a long time ago because i could have bought a lot of other things for what i spent on it. However by doing what i've done, i know a lot more about cars in general than a lot of mustang/camaro/'vette owners out there who are complete dumbasses.

agree!

[McFlurrey06]

Any body to help mecomplete a shopping list here.

-turbo
-intercooler
-piping
-couplers & clamps
-oil lines
-larger injectors(43#)
-cone filter
-manifolds/ y-pipe
-downpipe
-wastegate
-blow off valve
-Anything else for the turbo set up??

For the block
-SBC rods
-Custom Pistons(8.5:1 or 9.0:1)
-Turbo Cam & Custom Pushrods
-3500 intake manifolds (P&P)
-3400 or 3500 heads(P&P)
-ls springs(what LS engine is best)
-crane rockers
-Valve breathers/filters
-65mm TB
-headstuds
-Copper headgaskets
-cooler thermostat
-stainless valves
-colder plugs

Anything else that I am missing. I really want a complete list of what I need so I can start looking and check things off as I get them.

[boost21]

Originally Posted by Crazy83519

Any body to help mecomplete a shopping list here.

-turbo
-intercooler
-piping
-couplers & clamps
-oil lines
-larger injectors(43#)
-cone filter
-manifolds/ y-pipe
-downpipe
-wastegate
-blow off valve
-Anything else for the turbo set up??

dont forget gaskets for the oil fittings, turbo flange and probibly oil pan. Also a large amount of exhaust wrap for the down pipe and some vband clamp kits to break the down pipe up into a couple sections. You will also need vaccume hoses/splitters/clamps, then some braided coolant hoses to reroute the heater core lines because there is no way of getting the down pipe run with them how they come stock. Also I would reccomend replacing the upper radiator hose with a braided one to help prevent heat damage. Your going to need to relocate the battery so a dry cell (optima), battery box and relocation wires will be needed. Lastly your going to need a egr blockoff plate made and the T that goes into the block for oil feed and a bung for the oil pan(oil return) Theres probibly more that im missing but cant think of off the top of my head. Check out my f/s thread, I have a pretty complete list of what all is needed on there.

[alerored04]

If you are going to use an aftermarket cam I would buy the comp springs from Ben with the cam rather than ls6 springs. With larger lift values you would need to modify the heads to use ls6 springs where as the comps are a straight up install and forget.

[Mike Jung]

What ?

No one mentioned an oil cooler ?

You will want to get the engine oil temps down.


PS: What are peoples' oil temps, that are running turbo'd ?

[boost21]

Originally Posted by Mike Jung

What ?

No one mentioned an oil cooler ?

You will want to get the engine oil temps down.


PS: What are peoples' oil temps, that are running turbo'd ?

also a trans cooler wouldn't hurt.

[cardude007617]

dont we actually have a factory trans cooler? im not saying its very useful or good enough, but dont we?

[Mike Jung]

Originally Posted by cardude007617

dont we actually have a factory trans cooler? im not saying its very useful or good enough, but dont we?

Yes.

It is part of the radiator.

[Shock24Z]

Boost gauge
Boost controller
Powrtuner or HPtuner
Wideband

edit: oh and if you plan to flow above 50lb/min of air... you'll need a bigger MAF... or you'll have to scale the stocker with an AFC.

an ls1 MAF will be good to about 63lb/min of air.

2nd edit: I did some quick number crunching and I figured that your injectors will probably limit you a little bit before the stock MAF... so you'll also probably want to look at 65#ers if you plan to flow more than 50lb/min of air.

[McFlurrey06]

good deal. Thanks for all the help. A trans cooler is in the works when that gets rebuilt. I need that before i start the turbo. My 1-2 shift slips atm.

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by Crazy83519

Any body to help mecomplete a shopping list here.

For the block
-SBC rods
-Custom Pistons(8.5:1 or 9.0:1)
-Turbo Cam & Custom Pushrods
-3500 intake manifolds (P&P)
-3400 or 3500 heads(P&P)
-ls springs(what LS engine is best)
-crane rockers
-Valve breathers/filters
-65mm TB
-headstuds
-Copper headgaskets
-cooler thermostat
-stainless valves
-colder plugs

Anything else that I am missing. I really want a complete list of what I need so I can start looking and check things off as I get them.

What are you're target boost levels and power goals? A lot of the stuff you listed are really over kill unless you plan on going all out and you don't mind spending a lot of money. The SBC rods aren't absolutely necessary. The stock rods are fairly strong and can be shot peened and cryo treated. The SBC rods will cost you the parts plus the machine work to make them fit our crank and bearings (they aren't direct fit).

Also the copper head gaskets are a race part. They aren't really reliable for a street driven car, nor are they necessary. Get some MLS gaskets instead. They'll seal up better and be plenty strong enough, especially with head studs. Same with the valves... do you really need stainless? 3500 heads and valves are pretty good to start with. The need for stainless depends on your power goal, rpm, and valve springs you're gonna run.

Last thing, do NOT use valve cover breathers on a street driven car!

Originally Posted by alerored04

If you are going to use an aftermarket cam I would buy the comp springs from Ben with the cam rather than ls6 springs. With larger lift values you would need to modify the heads to use ls6 springs where as the comps are a straight up install and forget.

That really depends on what cam he's getting. And which comp springs do you mean? The 26915's are about the same as the LS6/LS2 springs. The 26918's can handle more lift, but are also stiffer and place even more stress on the stock timing chain and pin in the cam gear which are known weak points. You can run up to .55" of lift with the LS6 springs on stock heads, so unless he's planning on more than that he doesn't need comp springs. If he's planning on running something like .6" of lift then yeah I'd say get the 26918's and get the double roller timing chain and adjustable cam gear as well from WOt-tech. Honestly that's a heck of a lot more lift than you need to get power from a turbo though.

Originally Posted by Crazy83519

good deal. Thanks for all the help. A trans cooler is in the works when that gets rebuilt. I need that before i start the turbo. My 1-2 shift slips atm.

Just fyi, a trans cooler is good insurance, but it won't help your shifts at all. The stock clutches are weak and can't hold a lot of torque. Once you start upping the power, it's a matter of time before they burn out. If you want firmer shifts, you need raybestos blue clutches and a rebuilt trans, and a programmer to change the shift settings in your pcm.

[Shock24Z]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Last thing, do NOT use valve cover breathers on a street driven car!

angrysk8r's car has been running that way for over a year now.

Not saying anything else.... just throwing that out there.

[McFlurrey06]

My power goals are hopefully around what whiteb!tch was running, before he blewed his crap up and went zo6 humping. What the recommended plan of attack?

[Nick-G]

Before you get the crane rockers their are some Scorpion rockers being made with different ratio's. http://60degreev6.com/forum/f96/comi...rockers-t41314

So those might be something you might want to look into before you get the crane rockers.

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by Nick-G

Before you get the crane rockers their are some Scorpion rockers being made with different ratio's. http://60degreev6.com/forum/f96/comi...rockers-t41314

So those might be something you might want to look into before you get the crane rockers.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that.

Don't get the crane rockers. They are really too expensive for very little power gain. Also two people have had failures with them (the fulcrum bearings went out on mine). Personally I think their design is flawed and the oil hole in the top is too small. Anyway rockers aren't really necessary, but again if you're going for an all out build and want something lighter and stronger than stock, then the new scorpion rockers coming out should fit the bill and require less modifications to work. Any of the current adjustable rockers that will work require tedious modifications to fit.

[McFlurrey06]

Any idea's as what Whiteboy had installed to achieve in his 322whp set up? I know he had the hp kit, but what else was done to his engine. I saw where he had only a few simple mods, and another where he had a huge list including meth injection.

Any one know his mods list??

[Schweppe23]

Garret gt35r with some other little goodies will make you grin from ear to ear.

[McFlurrey06]

Originally Posted by Schweppe23

Garret gt35r with some other little goodies will make you grin from ear to ear.

What other goodies?

[Nick-G]

I just figured I would post this in case you dont know but their are currently two full turbo setups for sale in the for sale section of the forums.