Cadillac CTS May Get V-8 Diesel Option - Page 2

SikMindz · 10-16-2008, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cardude007617

right it hasnt been for a LONG time (has it even been?) but the mileage you get out of it would most likely more than make up for it, touche?

iguess im too young to remember much of snes

Is it though? Is burning diesel more efficient than regular gas across the entire spectrum of diesel engines available? I'm not sure so if anyone could chime in it would be helpful.

And to your second statement...BLASPHEMY.

K WeRd · 10-16-2008, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SikMindz

Is it though? Is burning diesel more efficient than regular gas across the entire spectrum of diesel engines available? I'm not sure so if anyone could chime in it would be helpful.

i drive a 4 door 2001 F350 pulling a refrigerated trailer part time for my fathers business and i am generally surprised with the gas mileage out of such a big set-up. without the trailor, the truck has seen 22 mpg on a 50 gallon tank(i think)...between 12-15 with the trailor...

SSRacer · 10-16-2008, 07:18 AM

Meh....right now around gas here gas is $2.80 and diesel is still $3.80

crazypontiac03 · 10-16-2008, 09:17 AM

Sounds good to me. If there was more Diesel Power here it would be cheaper at the pump plus better Economy like Europe.

Mike Jung · 10-16-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SikMindz

Since when was diesel any cheaper than gas?

Sure as hell ain't around here.

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Originally Posted by cardude007617

right it hasnt been for a LONG time (has it even been?) but the mileage you get out of it would most likely more than make up for it, touche?

iguess im too young to remember much of snes

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Originally Posted by crazypontiac03

Sounds good to me. If there was more Diesel Power here it would be cheaper at the pump plus better Economy like Europe.

Here in Toronto today the Rack prices by Petro-Canada are (before taxes & retail margins are added in):
87 octane gasoline = $0.681 Cdn/L = $2.21 US per US Gallon
Diesel = $0.774 Cdn/L = $2.51 US per US Gallon

NYMEX wholesale trading currrently:
Gasoline = $1.62 US per US Gallon
Diesel / Home Heating Oil = $2.09 US per US Gallon

So right from the wholesale level there is a spread (between gasoline vs diesel) of:
Petro-Canada Rack Pricing = $0.0933 Cdn/L = $0.30 US per US Gallon
NYMEX wholesale trading = $0.47 US per US Gallon

Gee, after looking at those numbers...
Are we Canadians getting hosed at the wholesale level for gasoline !

Today's Toronto price for gasoline at the pumps is: $1.043 Cdn/L = $3.38 US per US Gallon

SSRacer · 10-16-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crazypontiac03

Sounds good to me. If there was more Diesel Power here it would be cheaper at the pump plus better Economy like Europe.

Not going to be cheaper at the pump unless they either build new refineries or change they way the current refineries work to output more diesel...which of course would output less gasoline, making it's price go up.

cardude007617 · 10-16-2008, 10:49 AM

interesting little vid here i think:

Exodus · 10-16-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SikMindz

**** no.

I kill dinosaurs with glee.

Its mostly dead plankton and tree shrubs...

lone_wolf025 · 10-16-2008, 12:19 PM

What's messed up is that diesel is much easier to refine as compared to gasoline, but despite that the oil companies still keep the price high, probably to nail the commercial market...

SSRacer · 10-16-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lone_wolf025

What's messed up is that diesel is much easier to refine as compared to gasoline, but despite that the oil companies still keep the price high, probably to nail the commercial market...

I read an article, I think in C&D a while back about gas vs diesel production. There are basically two ways a refinery can be set up to refine oil into fuel. The way pretty much all refineries in the US are set up, most of the output is gasoline, then a much lower percentage of diesel. In Europe, most of the refineries use the other method, which generates a greater percentage of diesel compared to the US and a comparatively lower percentage of gasoline.

That is why diesel is so popular across the pond. To switch the us refineries to the other method to generate more diesel would not only be a massively expensive undertaking, but it would reduce the amount of gasoline produced at the same time, thus increasing the price at the pump.

O1GAGT · 10-18-2008, 04:53 PM

It would be awesome to see a diesel CTS.... look at all the performance stuff already available for diesel engines. Plus being able to let the black smoke roll out the exhaust : )

10-16-2008, 07:18 AM	#23
SSRacer Speed Racer AKA: Sean Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere Age: 43 Posts: 1,440 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT Sedan	Meh....right now around gas here gas is $2.80 and diesel is still $3.80 __________________ 2002 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 http://cardomain.com/id/ssgohan Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. If it ain't broke, don't Microsoft it.

10-16-2008, 09:17 AM	#24
crazypontiac03 MiDnIgHt AKA: Jason/Sparky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: IL Age: 37 Posts: 3,019 Vehicle: 2008 HHR/05 Galant	Sounds good to me. If there was more Diesel Power here it would be cheaper at the pump plus better Economy like Europe. __________________ Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if it wasn't for FORD's our tools would rust! "Unions were the rise and will be the fall of this Great Nation" "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in... And how many want out." Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom. -Tony Blair

10-16-2008, 10:49 AM	#27
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10-18-2008, 04:53 PM	#31
O1GAGT GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Phil Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Age: 37 Posts: 1,107 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	It would be awesome to see a diesel CTS.... look at all the performance stuff already available for diesel engines. Plus being able to let the black smoke roll out the exhaust : ) __________________ "The world's best cam combined with a poor set of heads will produce an engine that's a dog. But bolt on a set of great heads even with a poor cam, and that engine will still make great power." ~John Lingenfelter

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