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BoOsTiN'
 
AKA: slograndam
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I think I can finally say stock internals are shot.
Car doesnt run, enough said. I'm thinking my valves are getting stuck open because of my springs being so worn... Meaning.. REBUILD time... but anyways... to the point i want to see whats wrong with it just to see if i can describe it...
I start it... It jumps around almost like a vaccum leak... but i dont have vaccum leak... Sounds Cammed. Runs like pure sh** Breaks up while revving high rpms over 4K... I think its my valve springs. What do you guys think? No flaming... I already started working on getting my built tranny done... I ordered new piston rings and all bearings and seals for bottom end... but any advice? |
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05-20-2009, 05:44 PM
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not this alero
 
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05-20-2009, 05:56 PM
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BoOsTiN'
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05-20-2009, 06:20 PM
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05-20-2009, 06:39 PM
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converted to ls1 :)
 
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try swapping out plugs?..maybe even try reading them to see if maybe you have a fuel condition?
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05-20-2009, 07:56 PM
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Im A Motherfuc*er
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Step 1: Strip turbo parts
Step 2: Put in box Step 3: Mail to me Might as well tear into it if its running that badly. You could get some of those new forged pistons that are being offered by 60*v6 while youre at it.
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05-20-2009, 09:04 PM
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BoOsTiN'
AKA: slograndam
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I just put new plugs in... maybe thats what it is... Maybe they arent in all the way because i just had surgery and i just put them till they felt hard... it started running like **** once i put them in.. that could be reason... im gonna do that tomarrow
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05-20-2009, 09:20 PM
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Your valves will never stick open because of worn springs. Maybe if you broke a spring... or some other valve train part that would make it jam up, but then your car wouldn't run at all. I'd be inclined to look for problems elsewhere.
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05-20-2009, 09:59 PM
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BoOsTiN'
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My car don't run... it starts up... shuts off... RPMS will go really high... and jump around than sometimes it wil level out and be fine... but sounds like ass and breaks up
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05-20-2009, 10:12 PM
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woop woop
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I think you have no idea what you are doing, and made a poor attempt. Get educated and start over.
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05-20-2009, 11:28 PM
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WOT-Tech
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do a compression test.
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05-21-2009, 12:02 AM
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Was i drunk that day
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might be mis fireing.
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05-21-2009, 12:14 AM
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Sounds a lot like a vacuum leak.
Scan it and show me. I bet it's a vacuum leak. Quote:
Probably not. Furthermore, "shot" internals don't make engines rev to 4k Vacuum leaks do. |
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05-21-2009, 12:20 AM
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Was i drunk that day
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he said,
"Breaks up while revving high rpms over 4K" then he said it starts up... shuts off... RPMS will go really high
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Will (can't type!) Two Cams are twice as fun. Hauler: 1984 Buick Electra Estate Wagon Olds 3oh7. 268H camming "Used car dealers are scum of the earth, and the more ball-busting you can do to them, the more I salute you. If he won't budge, let it sit a couple of weeks, then go in and offer him $750, reminding him that he won't get jack **** for it at auction." Quote:
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05-21-2009, 12:32 AM
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I rescind previous statements and accept the status of d-bag. Unless he means to say its revving itself... However, I'd like to see a scan to try and determine what the problem is. Also, unless this car was shorted fuel or something, I find destruction of the internals possible but unlikely. There are cases of 3400s taking way more abuse than this one and running fine. Last edited by Shock24Z; 05-21-2009 at 12:37 AM. |
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05-21-2009, 12:33 AM
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You're low on oil.
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05-21-2009, 04:09 AM
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you spun a bearing!
either way your dimwittedness = fail
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05-21-2009, 07:47 AM
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BoOsTiN'
AKA: slograndam
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wow u guys give me **** for not turboing my car. I try to gain knowledge, i get it done, I do what u guys say, tune maf, case scan ,all the good stuff, drive it, tranny goes, than some reason just this past week car started running like ****. no, the car ran before but i broke up real bad... but i changed oil did a few crank overs to circulate it... now the fokin thing dont stay running, althought last night when i got home i started it up it fired up revved to about 2k than idled at like 8-900 smooth ... the scans have no misfires... i did hook my laptop up to it this morning
My LTFT and STFT are so high now.. why?? like 12% they were negative or 0 there was no metal in the oil either. I ran a magnet through it Last edited by zukiracer19; 05-21-2009 at 07:53 AM. |
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05-21-2009, 07:52 AM
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not this alero
AKA: Greg
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05-21-2009, 08:00 AM
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BoOsTiN'
AKA: slograndam
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Whats best way to do vaccum leak test? i honestly couldnt think where I would have a vaccum leak... i havent had a vaccum leak since i first turboed the car... but I Do have a boost leak right now.. damn exhaust gaskets after manifold blow out like every other weekened,
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