Is a grand am worth modifying.

[kse73]

Originally Posted by AleroB888

Yeah, you are right, that wasn't so smart. But one issue is if less money could have been spent on better mods.



I am just replying to your posts. What is an ideal car to mod? One where you can knock 3 seconds off the baseline E.T? Or room to upgrade appearance / accessories?



That sounds a lot better. But it....just....wasn't....FAST.

A platform with a better aftermarket is a start. Parts for the GA were made by few companies and were expensive for what they were.

[Mike Jung]

Originally Posted by kse73

Best so far is a 12.8 on 235 summer tires and a 2.2 60' . I SHOULD be low 12's but I haven't come near them yet. I haven't made any runs with the proper rubber either. Once I learn how to drive and cut the 60's down, I'll get there eventually.

Originally Posted by kse73

I DID! Thats the sad part, . I only have 12 passes under my belt and can't help but spin the **** out of my tires. In my defense, 235's were WAY too small to propel the amount of power I have (which isn't that much....but rubber is our friend)

I recall when you (IIRC) were complaining about being in the 13.x's
12.8-seconds is impressive when you have 235 tires & lack of traction
Now it kind of makes sense, 235 tires

& here I am complaining about my 245 tires
Do you easily break the rear loose sometimes, driving with 235 rears ?

I am surprised you haven't went with a staggered set-up with like 245 fronts & 275 rears (or greater).


PS: Your fast Cavalier sounds mean

[Ajaxus]

The more I read, the smarter I feel, carry on..

[kse73]

Originally Posted by Mike Jung

I recall when you (IIRC) were complaining about being in the 13.x's
12.8-seconds is impressive when you have 235 tires & lack of traction
Now it kind of makes sense, 235 tires

& here I am complaining about my 245 tires
Do you easily break the rear loose sometimes, driving with 235 rears ?

I am surprised you haven't went with a staggered set-up with like 245 fronts & 275 rears (or greater).


PS: Your fast Cavalier sounds mean

I had the fenders cut completely and now have a 235/275 staggered setup. I still spin, but considerably less. I can at least keep the pedal planted during my 1-2 shift. It will still make a nice long chirp, but with the 235's it would keep spinning after the shift. I haven't been to the track with the new setup yet.

[cardude007617]

or just get a set of drag radials for the rear....

[ltpats]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

eh... survey says wrong answer. You can make it a lot faster than stock and still be able to drive it daily if you truly know what you are doing. The difference of course is between using cheap parts and doing the wrong modifications, or using quality parts and the correct modifications. Like the saying goes, fast and dependable isn't cheap... but it can be done.

True, I guess it's all relative to what you are willing to spend. The 3.4 isn't exactely a legendary engine though It's like modifying a Prius, sure it can be done but in the end it's still a Prius

[xxbackhillxx]

The same can be said for the Grand Am

[ltpats]

Originally Posted by xxbackhillxx

The same can be said for the Grand Am

That's my point

[Nick-G]

Originally Posted by ltpats

True, I guess it's all relative to what you are willing to spend.

Not necessarily like Aaron mentioned their are right modifications and their are wrong modifications. All it takes is a little knowledge and you can have a pretty decent build for fairly cheap.

[gaowners32]

Originally Posted by 2000 GT Coupe

I understand about the room, and that is probably the biggest factor in my opinion.
I know that dual and even quad turbos will get you impressive #'s but the problem is getting the setup right.
I read about a 3/4 ton doge cummins that does the 1/4 in 7 seconds he has over 60lbs of boost from idle to redline.

Have you ever wondered why twin turbo supra's remove the initial set up and go to just one?

Because it makes for less headache and larger horse power. Your logic is flawed.

Have a good day.

[customgagt94]

WHO all is going to the midwest meet in chicago?? AUGUST 5 th

[2000 GT Coupe]

Originally Posted by gaowners32

Have you ever wondered why twin turbo supra's remove the initial set up and go to just one?

Because it makes for less headache and larger horse power. Your logic is flawed.

Have a good day.

Thank you for your wonderful insight
Seriously though a twin turbo'ed supra is probably running one turbo for half the cylinders and the other for the other half. which is not what I was talking about.
I agree about the headache though. Getting multi-turbo's running is going to take more effort and in the end may not be worth it as Nick has already pointed out.

[felon_gt1]

not a bad idea going to 275 in the rear [U]KSE73[/u] I HAVE A 94 Z28 THAT I MADE A 383 AND ALSO CHARGED IT....IN RUNNING 275 IN FRONT AND 285 IN REAR ON 18 INCH RIMS AND IM STILL SPININ THEM...BUT I BLAME MY MODS HAHA...by the way MIKE thats a nice g8 what ar those rated in power

[Shock24Z]

Originally Posted by 2000 GT Coupe

Thank you for your wonderful insight
Seriously though a twin turbo'ed supra is probably running one turbo for half the cylinders and the other for the other half. which is not what I was talking about.

One turbo feeding another and hitting 60 psi?

Gasoline engines don't take too kindly to that stuff.

[Ajaxus]

Originally Posted by felon_gt1

not a bad idea going to 275 in the rear [U]KSE73[/u] I HAVE A 94 Z28 THAT I MADE A 383 AND ALSO CHARGED IT....IN RUNNING 275 IN FRONT AND 285 IN REAR ON 18 INCH RIMS AND IM STILL SPININ THEM...BUT I BLAME MY MODS HAHA...by the way MIKE thats a nice g8 what ar those rated in power

Your post looks like the ravings of a lunatic..what were you trying to say?

[stewartfn18]

Originally Posted by customgagt94

WHO all is going to the midwest meet in chicago?? AUGUST 5 th

talk about a thread jack.

[lvemy3100]

Originally Posted by stewartfn18

talk about a thread jack.

yea but IMO at least he did it in an effort to talk about something worth talking about... speaking of which I think I will go bump the thread myself..

[[ChaosweaveR]]

I'm enjoying this thread. PLZ CONTINUE.

[Mike Jung]

Originally Posted by customgagt94

WHO all is going to the midwest meet in chicago?? AUGUST 5 th

What meet ?

Link please ?

[Mike Jung]

Originally Posted by felon_gt1

...by the way MIKE thats a nice g8 what ar those rated in power

361 hp and 385 lb-ft at the crank

(Note: the newer 2009.5 GT versions are: 355 hp & 384 lb-ft at the crank.
They added secondary cat's to them for better/new emissions standard.)

Thanks