HID's Vs. Projector Headlight - Page 2

rocketfast123 · 07-11-2009, 12:45 AM

Not a fan of projector, the ones i like are clear corners.

Evil Djtorello · 07-11-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by [ChaosweaveR]

Wow, props for the retro fit, but it's just not my thing. I see fine at night, and I'm happy with the way my black housings look now. And to boot, they stopped making them as well.

Of coarse YOU see fine at night, everyone else is blinded by you. I cant wait for you to get pulled over (in your own car) By a bad day cop, and see what happens.

[ChaosweaveR] · 07-11-2009, 08:46 AM

I've never been bothered by the 5-0 about my headlights. I've gone by numerous Suffolk cops, Sheriffs, even a few State Troopers, and nothing. Even when I'm behind them, they don't do anything. As long as I don't do something stupid around one of them, they can't pull me over just because of headlights.

SilverGAGT2002 · 07-11-2009, 09:21 AM

True Halos are not illegal from my knowledge

SSRacer · 07-11-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomLover007

Seans (SSRacer) GA is a model for projectors...

Thanks

I like them. They have a much better light pattern than the black housings that I had before. Still halogen in mine, but they have nice cut off.

2000 GT Coupe · 07-11-2009, 02:07 PM

Here is a few more current pic's of the HID's in the projectors at night.

and here is a shot from before that shows the HID's cut off.

Weman · 07-11-2009, 03:34 PM

I still don't know the difference

?

3800SII · 07-12-2009, 12:14 AM

This is an old shot of mine.

2000 GT Coupe · 07-12-2009, 01:39 AM

you dont have projectors?
the glare is quite evident while with mine your not blinded by looking at them.

3800SII · 07-13-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 2000 GT Coupe

you dont have projectors?
the glare is quite evident while with mine your not blinded by looking at them.

I think you were asking me? If so then the answer is no. The factory lens housing is good enough, and it is bright as heck with the HID I don't mind the glare because that is the other driver's problem

I live in the county and there are not any street lights in my neighborhood. Blind away!

SSRacer · 07-13-2009, 08:05 AM

And when you blind somebody coming down a country road and they end up in the ditch I guess that is their fault.

I don't think HID's should be used unless they are in a projector housing of some sort to control the light.

bryanw0087 · 07-13-2009, 11:15 AM

HID's but if you could get a good set of projectors and be able to use HID's in the projectors without it melting that would be the way to go

3800SII · 07-13-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SSRacer

And when you blind somebody coming down a country road and they end up in the ditch I guess that is their fault.

I don't think HID's should be used unless they are in a projector housing of some sort to control the light.

Relax man... I was only kidding. The lights are not that bright to where they blind people. FYI everyone should know that you can manually adjust the beam pattern by tightening or lossening the torx bolt for the aiming patten. I made sure to adjust mine down an extra 3 to 4 degrees so that the light doesn't smack someone right in their cabin..

I don't see how you could critique whether or not the HIDs should come packaged any different, but you are entitled to your opinion. Aftermarket HIDs are one of the best upgrades for sorry OEM halogens. They look good in both projectors and standard lenses.

3800SII · 07-13-2009, 10:41 PM

Here is a new shot! The fogliamps have been replaced with a Pilot driving lens that also has an H7 HID bulb at 6000k. They are brighter than the stock headlight housing with a 9007 bulb at 4300K

DrFabulous · 07-13-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 3800SII

Relax man... I was only kidding. The lights are not that bright to where they blind people. FYI everyone should know that you can manually adjust the beam pattern by tightening or lossening the torx bolt for the aiming patten. I made sure to adjust mine down an extra 3 to 4 degrees so that the light doesn't smack someone right in their cabin..

I don't see how you could critique whether or not the HIDs should come packaged any different, but you are entitled to your opinion. Aftermarket HIDs are one of the best upgrades for sorry OEM halogens. They look good in both projectors and standard lenses.

Take a picture of your beam cutoff and you'll realize just how poor of an idea it is to just slap HIDs in. The glare with HIDs in stock GA headlights is horrid- I've seen it in person on several different GA's, and every single one shot light in all directions.

I still say do it right or don't do it at all.

One of my favorite pics to whip out in HID arguments:

rocketfast123 · 07-14-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 3800SII

They look good in both projectors and standard lenses.

That's all they do is look good in stock housings. As for usable light.

. I had a blind spot between my lights in the shape of a "V". I could see all street sings and markers fine, that was a good thing because i could not see that road. I got tired of them after a week and put my silver star ultras back in. Played around the the the 3 adjustments a little more and they work way better than my HID setup would ever work.

But that kit was the tits for a quick second

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Originally Posted by 3800SII

Here is a new shot! The fogliamps have been replaced with a Pilot driving lens that also has an H7 HID bulb at 6000k. They are brighter than the stock headlight housing with a 9007 bulb at 4300K

my lights looked just like that, but i want to see the pattern when facing a wall like in DR. Fab pics.

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Originally Posted by DrFabulous

I've seen it in person on several different GA's, and every single one shot light in all directions.

Like that part in "me myself and irene" the windshield washer effect.

3800SII · 07-14-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DrFabulous

Take a picture of your beam cutoff and you'll realize just how poor of an idea it is to just slap HIDs in. The glare with HIDs in stock GA headlights is horrid- I've seen it in person on several different GA's, and every single one shot light in all directions.

I still say do it right or don't do it at all.

One of my favorite pics to whip out in HID arguments:

To each his own... You just can't please everyone. I see your argument, but I like my setup just fine...

DrFabulous · 07-14-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 3800SII

To each his own... You just can't please everyone. I see your argument, but I like my setup just fine...

Guy, the problem isn't with how well YOU see as much as it is with the fact that you're blinding other drivers like no other. If you want to half-arse something and it only effects you, thats one thing- but doing something like throwing HIDs in halogen housings is just being selfish and dangerous. Not to mention how illegal it is.

Like I said, do it right or don't do it at all.

boost21 · 07-14-2009, 05:59 PM

Just give up Matt, its like beating a dead horse. Eventually people open their eyes.

DrFabulous · 07-14-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boost21

Just give up Matt, its like beating a dead horse. Eventually people open their eyes.

I refuse to give up hope on these kids. I need to help them see the error in their ways so they stop blinding me.

07-11-2009, 08:46 AM	#23
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07-11-2009, 09:21 AM	#24
SilverGAGT2002 GTslow AKA: David Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Odessa, TX Age: 32 Posts: 1,136 Vehicle: 02 Grand Am GT Sedan	True Halos are not illegal from my knowledge __________________ Nothing Coming soon!

07-11-2009, 02:07 PM	#26
2000 GT Coupe Made the move :D AKA: Gene Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jax Florida Posts: 1,416 Vehicle: 00 Grand Am GT1 Coupe	Here is a few more current pic's of the HID's in the projectors at night. and here is a shot from before that shows the HID's cut off. __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT1 Camaro brake upgrade Goodridge G-Stop SS brake lines MP Racing CAI and tuned PCM LED tails Projector's with HID's Lowered 18" Rims Aftermarket front and rear anti-sway bars

07-12-2009, 01:39 AM	#29
2000 GT Coupe Made the move :D AKA: Gene Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jax Florida Posts: 1,416 Vehicle: 00 Grand Am GT1 Coupe	you dont have projectors? the glare is quite evident while with mine your not blinded by looking at them. __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT1 Camaro brake upgrade Goodridge G-Stop SS brake lines MP Racing CAI and tuned PCM LED tails Projector's with HID's Lowered 18" Rims Aftermarket front and rear anti-sway bars

07-13-2009, 08:05 AM	#31
SSRacer Speed Racer AKA: Sean Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere Age: 43 Posts: 1,440 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT Sedan	And when you blind somebody coming down a country road and they end up in the ditch I guess that is their fault. I don't think HID's should be used unless they are in a projector housing of some sort to control the light. __________________ 2002 Pontiac Grand Am GT1 http://cardomain.com/id/ssgohan Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. If it ain't broke, don't Microsoft it.

07-11-2009, 03:34 PM	#27
Weman GAGT - Member AKA: James Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 435 Vehicle: 1990 Grand Am GT Coupe	I still don't know the difference ?

07-12-2009, 12:14 AM	#28
3800SII GAGT - Member AKA: C BOYD Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MEMPHIS, TN Posts: 504 Vehicle: 2004 GRAND AM GT	This is an old shot of mine.

07-13-2009, 11:15 AM	#32
bryanw0087 2000 GAGT AKA: Bryan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Knox, Pennsylvania Age: 34 Posts: 683 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	HID's but if you could get a good set of projectors and be able to use HID's in the projectors without it melting that would be the way to go __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2544207/1

07-13-2009, 10:41 PM	#34
3800SII GAGT - Member AKA: C BOYD Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MEMPHIS, TN Posts: 504 Vehicle: 2004 GRAND AM GT	Here is a new shot! The fogliamps have been replaced with a Pilot driving lens that also has an H7 HID bulb at 6000k. They are brighter than the stock headlight housing with a 9007 bulb at 4300K

07-14-2009, 05:59 PM	#39
boost21 GAGT - Senior Member AKA: -_- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,766 Vehicle: turbo ls1	Just give up Matt, its like beating a dead horse. Eventually people open their eyes.

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