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Tank33 · 03-16-2009, 11:56 PM

It is just that to me, it would look kind of goofy to have huge brakes up front, and then have small crappy brakes in the back, it just looks silly.

Which Camaro calipers should I be looking for, which year range?

This is why I ask here about the Corvette calipers, yesterday it sounded like they would fit forsure, now it sounds like they do not fit stock wheels, is there not anyone with a forsure definite answer, or a picture, will the corvette calipers fit in a stock GAGT wheel? I want to be 100% certain before I drop hundreds of dollars on calipers, that are thousands of miles away from me.

I checked on whoever it was who had the camaro 12'' brake upgrade for sale a while back, and those calipers had ridges along the top too, but they only traveled halfway across the top.

When the corvette calipers hit, do they hit the side of the wheel, or the top of the wheel? If it is just a side issue, I could just run a half inch spacer or something.

KhellendrosxS · 03-17-2009, 05:43 AM

http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/sh...=camaro+brakes.

Also here:

http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/sh...=camaro+brakes
^This thread goes into more detail on the ins and outs of it.

The way the inside of the rim is shaped is kinda slanted as it goes inward into the wheel well from the hub which is why the ridges on the back side of the camaro caliper will still clear it.

Do you have the plastic covered chrometech wheels? If so all you have to do is grind off a little (and its only a little) bit of that plastic cover. No major surgery is involved in the process (no metal removal) and spacers will put more stress on your hub.

AaronGTR · 03-17-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tank33

It is just that to me, it would look kind of goofy to have huge brakes up front, and then have small crappy brakes in the back, it just looks silly.

I agree somewhat. Even if the fronts do the majority of the braking, if you upgrade the front brakes, you should upgrade the rears too in order to keep a decent braking balance. Not only will it keep the balance but it should increase total stopping power too. Sometimes all that is needed to increase rear stopping power enough to stay balanced is some better brake pads and stiffer lines. If you upsize the fronts enough though, the rears could probably do with at least a larger rotor with stock size calipers. That's one of the things on my "to-do" list.

Tank33 · 03-26-2009, 01:06 PM

Is it possible to step up the rear rotor in size while still using the stocker caliper??

I figured I would just leave the back as it is, have everything blasted and then painted, just put on some better pads and increase the rotor size to 12 inches back there, if it is possible??

Hoping to find some EBC rotors for the back that will fit our bolt pattern, or do they just make the stock replacement size for our cars??

2000 GT Coupe · 03-26-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mfuller

The rear discs are actually 10.9"x0.4" (trust me....I just went out in the garage and measured 'em).
For those who are hell-bent on upgrading the rear brake, I am fairly certain that the rear brakes from a Grand Prix GXP will bolt right up. The calipers are still single-piston sliding units, but the discs are 11.9"x0.8" vented rotors.

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Originally Posted by Tank33

Is it possible to step up the rear rotor in size while still using the stocker caliper??

I figured I would just leave the back as it is, have everything blasted and then painted, just put on some better pads and increase the rotor size to 12 inches back there, if it is possible??

Hoping to find some EBC rotors for the back that will fit our bolt pattern, or do they just make the stock replacement size for our cars??

Maybe the stock caliper wont fit the grand prix gxp rotor but it looks like you could bolt up a bigger rotor.

Tank33 · 09-07-2009, 12:20 AM

I know this might be the wrong place to ask, but

Can anyone confirm if 16 inch GLS Alero wheels fit with corvette calipers? Everything I have read points to yes, if so, then I can run corvette brakes in the winter time and still keep 16 inch tires....would be so awesome if it worked!

DrFabulous · 09-07-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tank33

I know this might be the wrong place to ask, but

Can anyone confirm if 16 inch GLS Alero wheels fit with corvette calipers? Everything I have read points to yes, if so, then I can run corvette brakes in the winter time and still keep 16 inch tires....would be so awesome if it worked!

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Originally Posted by alerored04

My vette ones have small ribs at the top which might conflict with a 16" wheel. They fit my 16" GLS Alero wheels with no problems though.

Seems to be answered pretty clearly already

Tank33 · 09-07-2009, 12:57 AM

Was hoping for a picture, how many times have things not turned out as one has said.

MMGT1 · 09-07-2009, 06:15 AM

Guys, I have to ask.....

Has anyone done a compare? Upgraded vette set-up against let's say PowerSlot Rotors with Hawk Peformance Green pads? I wonder if you guys really have any more stop than I do. I have wanted to do the conversion for quite sometime myself. The first one I saw with it was in '03. Looks freakin' awesome in person. Picks dont do it justice, it is wicked to see!

mfuller · 09-07-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tank33

Was hoping for a picture, how many times have things not turned out as one has said.

As requested, 16" Alero wheel with 12" camaro brakes.

Tank33 · 09-07-2009, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfuller

As requested, 16" Alero wheel with 12" camaro brakes.

Thanks, but, what I am looking for is corvette calipers behind those wheels. I am aware the camaro one's fit behind all the wheels, even our GA 16 inch ones.

I am hoping some plain old steelies will work, I would imagine so, it doesn't get anymore plain and basic than a steel rim, should be lots of room I would think?

alerored04 · 09-07-2009, 01:22 PM

I have 01 alero GLS wheels for winter. They fit fine. If you wait until winter and remind me Ill get you a pic but I am not gonna go put the wheels on to prove I am right. Pm me when the time comes.

Tank33 · 09-07-2009, 01:34 PM

Sounds good alerored04

2000 GT Coupe · 09-07-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alerored04

I have 01 alero GLS wheels for winter. They fit fine. If you wait until winter and remind me Ill get you a pic but I am not gonna go put the wheels on to prove I am right. Pm me when the time comes.

That is a sweet set up you have, even with the vette calipers it fits nice. I wanted to go vette but I didnt think my stock rims would work, and they probably dont.

AaronGTR · 09-08-2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMGT1

Guys, I have to ask.....

Has anyone done a compare? Upgraded vette set-up against let's say PowerSlot Rotors with Hawk Peformance Green pads? I wonder if you guys really have any more stop than I do. I have wanted to do the conversion for quite sometime myself. The first one I saw with it was in '03. Looks freakin' awesome in person. Picks dont do it justice, it is wicked to see!

Since when did Hawk start making "green" pads? I was under the impression that was EBC.

Hawk makes HPS, HP+, etc.

To answer your question, I don't think anyone has done a direct comparison. Of any brakes for that matter. Most people on here do not have the equipment, facilities, or knowledge to do brake performance testing. The best you are going to get is a "feel from the drivers seat" opinion.

Based on the simple facts though I would have to say it's almost certain you would get more stopping power with those brakes. Larger rotor for more brake torque, larger dual piston caliper, larger brake pads. Then there also is the issue of larger thermal capacity for increased fad resistance.

Tank33 · 10-31-2009, 11:24 PM

To bring this back a bit....

Can we up the rotor size in the rear, without switching to a different caliper?

I realize it would be no gain, as the pad would still only touch as much surface as its own size, but I figured a bigger rotor might look better back there to kind of "match" the bigger one up front.

MMGT1 · 10-31-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Since when did Hawk start making "green" pads? I was under the impression that was EBC.

Hawk makes HPS, HP+, etc.

To answer your question, I don't think anyone has done a direct comparison. Of any brakes for that matter. Most people on here do not have the equipment, facilities, or knowledge to do brake performance testing. The best you are going to get is a "feel from the drivers seat" opinion.

Based on the simple facts though I would have to say it's almost certain you would get more stopping power with those brakes. Larger rotor for more brake torque, larger dual piston caliper, larger brake pads. Then there also is the issue of larger thermal capacity for increased fad resistance.

Yup, I was looking at and reading so many rotor and brake combos it was down right silly. The amount of money the wreckers want even for those f-body calipers here is nuts. I ended up with these.

Tank33 · 01-22-2010, 01:49 PM

just wanted to double check here before I make the order.

Do the stainless steel brake lines for the GA's bolt up to the Corvette calipers, or do you need a different size line for those calipers?

03-16-2009, 11:56 PM	#21
Tank33 GAGT - Member AKA: Tank Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 285 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT1	It is just that to me, it would look kind of goofy to have huge brakes up front, and then have small crappy brakes in the back, it just looks silly. Which Camaro calipers should I be looking for, which year range? This is why I ask here about the Corvette calipers, yesterday it sounded like they would fit forsure, now it sounds like they do not fit stock wheels, is there not anyone with a forsure definite answer, or a picture, will the corvette calipers fit in a stock GAGT wheel? I want to be 100% certain before I drop hundreds of dollars on calipers, that are thousands of miles away from me. I checked on whoever it was who had the camaro 12'' brake upgrade for sale a while back, and those calipers had ridges along the top too, but they only traveled halfway across the top. When the corvette calipers hit, do they hit the side of the wheel, or the top of the wheel? If it is just a side issue, I could just run a half inch spacer or something. Last edited by Tank33; 03-17-2009 at 01:05 AM.

03-17-2009, 05:43 AM	#22
KhellendrosxS Im A Motherfuc*er AKA: Chris Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 1,056 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT	http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/sh...=camaro+brakes. Also here: http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/sh...=camaro+brakes ^This thread goes into more detail on the ins and outs of it. The way the inside of the rim is shaped is kinda slanted as it goes inward into the wheel well from the hub which is why the ridges on the back side of the camaro caliper will still clear it. Do you have the plastic covered chrometech wheels? If so all you have to do is grind off a little (and its only a little) bit of that plastic cover. No major surgery is involved in the process (no metal removal) and spacers will put more stress on your hub. __________________ GO: 28lb/hr Trailblazer injectors, Flowmaster 80 Custom Cat-back, Stewart Warner Maximum Performance Series Gauges, DHP Powertuner SHOW: Camaro Brake Upgrade, F/R Sway Bars, SLP STB

09-07-2009, 01:22 PM	#32
alerored04 GAGT - Member AKA: Matt Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Prague, MN Age: 35 Posts: 702 Vehicle: 2001 Oldmobile Alero	I have 01 alero GLS wheels for winter. They fit fine. If you wait until winter and remind me Ill get you a pic but I am not gonna go put the wheels on to prove I am right. Pm me when the time comes. __________________ Lots of mods cost lots of $$ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2598719/1

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03-26-2009, 01:06 PM	#24
Tank33 GAGT - Member AKA: Tank Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 285 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT1	Is it possible to step up the rear rotor in size while still using the stocker caliper?? I figured I would just leave the back as it is, have everything blasted and then painted, just put on some better pads and increase the rotor size to 12 inches back there, if it is possible?? Hoping to find some EBC rotors for the back that will fit our bolt pattern, or do they just make the stock replacement size for our cars??

09-07-2009, 12:20 AM	#26
Tank33 GAGT - Member AKA: Tank Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 285 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT1	I know this might be the wrong place to ask, but Can anyone confirm if 16 inch GLS Alero wheels fit with corvette calipers? Everything I have read points to yes, if so, then I can run corvette brakes in the winter time and still keep 16 inch tires....would be so awesome if it worked!

09-07-2009, 12:57 AM	#28
Tank33 GAGT - Member AKA: Tank Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 285 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT1	Was hoping for a picture, how many times have things not turned out as one has said.

09-07-2009, 06:15 AM	#29
MMGT1 GAGT - Member AKA: Paul Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Age: 49 Posts: 347 Vehicle: 2000 Firebird TA WS6	Guys, I have to ask..... Has anyone done a compare? Upgraded vette set-up against let's say PowerSlot Rotors with Hawk Peformance Green pads? I wonder if you guys really have any more stop than I do. I have wanted to do the conversion for quite sometime myself. The first one I saw with it was in '03. Looks freakin' awesome in person. Picks dont do it justice, it is wicked to see!

09-07-2009, 01:34 PM	#33
Tank33 GAGT - Member AKA: Tank Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 285 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT1	Sounds good alerored04

10-31-2009, 11:24 PM	#36
Tank33 GAGT - Member AKA: Tank Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 285 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT1	To bring this back a bit.... Can we up the rotor size in the rear, without switching to a different caliper? I realize it would be no gain, as the pad would still only touch as much surface as its own size, but I figured a bigger rotor might look better back there to kind of "match" the bigger one up front.

01-22-2010, 01:49 PM	#38
Tank33 GAGT - Member AKA: Tank Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 285 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT1	just wanted to double check here before I make the order. Do the stainless steel brake lines for the GA's bolt up to the Corvette calipers, or do you need a different size line for those calipers?