what oil do you use? - Page 3

2003SCT · 11-07-2009, 09:23 PM

There seems to be a big idea going around that since Mobil1 changed their oil base stocks, they aren't as "true" of a synthetic as they once were and as a few still are. That's a really quick synopsis and I don't know how much validity to it there is but supposedly there was even a lawsuit involved. Engines and oil and filtration technology have come so far over the past 50 years that I think that as long as a person regularly changes any brand of oil and filter they will be fine. Oil and filter is one of the cheapest "mods" that anyone can do themselves and in fact "has" to do regularly and I think that's why there seems to be a pretty solid preoccupation with brand preference.

CHRIS

AaronGTR · 11-07-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MMGT1

Aaron, thanks for that link bud. I just ordered the kit myself. Just changed my oil yesterday and at the 3,000 Km's mark Ill take a sample and send it in. Looks like they do deal with "out of country" clients! I never thought for a second that I would have access to this. I am going to pass this on to the Canadian club in case I'm not the only one interested in this.

I've done several tests through that company for both my cars and the service has been great so far. I get the results very fast. Gonna start getting some samples for my roommates bimmer too.

just fyi, you have to take the sample with the oil still warm after you've just been running the engine a while. If you let the oil cool and sit, stuff in it separates and they don't get an accurate test result.

drumking1721 · 03-06-2010, 02:23 PM

Alright question. I am at 141,000. The only oil leaking is the pan, and i need to tighten that. Should i stick with mobil 1 or switch to a high mileage oil?

2003SCT · 03-06-2010, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drumking1721

Alright question. I am at 141,000. The only oil leaking is the pan, and i need to tighten that. Should i stick with mobil 1 or switch to a high mileage oil?

You can do both. Mobil 1 High Mileage Oil.

CHRIS

grandayumgt · 03-12-2010, 12:41 AM

i use castrol edge, the 15,000 mile or year interval one (but i change at 5k) ad a fram extended guard filter

AaronGTR · 03-12-2010, 03:02 PM

You could probably run that oil to 7k, and ditch the fram... they are the worst filter on the market. Get a NAPA gold, A/C delco, or Mobil1 filter instead.

lvemy3100 · 03-12-2010, 03:43 PM

FYI the new ac delco filters arent all that great. I got lucky and still have some older of the olders ones but I am going to use Wix/Napa Gold filters after those are gone

O1GAGT · 03-12-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lvemy3100

FYI the new ac delco filters arent all that great. I got lucky and still have some older of the olders ones but I am going to use Wix/Napa Gold filters after those are gone

Exactly, the new delco filters are junk compared to the older ones. I always open them up before I buy them to make sure they were made in the USA. I forget where the newer ones are made, but the quality is junk.

Amsoil and K&N filters are suposed to be good, but then again come with a premium price.

AaronGTR · 03-12-2010, 07:12 PM

Interesting. I haven't used an A/C delco filter in a while so I didn't know that, but back when I used to use them they were still pretty good. Sucks for A/C delco, but I guess they figured the average person doesn't know the difference and they could save some cash.

2003SCT · 03-13-2010, 02:08 AM

Haven't used one myself but I watched a testing/manufacturing video from Royal Purple on how they make their filters and it seems like a pretty impressive process.

CHRIS

[ChaosweaveR] · 03-13-2010, 10:14 AM

I still use Castrol Edge. I wish they made it in a 0W-30 though. I use either Wix, Bosch, K&N or Mobil 1 filters, nothing else.

Metallman56 · 03-13-2010, 09:58 PM

i switched from R.P to Edge this fall for 2 reasons. first is money, and second is simply i wanted to try it. i changed my oil filter last week and when i went to add more oil, i couldnt get the cap off. had to get a screw driver and pry it up. finally when i got the cap off, there was a sludgy orangish buildup on the bottom of the cap, and the threads. i have no idea wtf caused this, but i have never ever had this happen with R.P. so needless to say i'm going back to R.P, and probably doing a engine flush as well.

oh also i either use A/C delco pf47, or Napa Gold 1036. both are oversized.

[ChaosweaveR] · 03-13-2010, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallman56

oh also i either use A/C delco pf47, or Napa Gold 1036. both are oversized.

No, they aren't oversized.

Metallman56 · 03-13-2010, 10:04 PM

my bad. pf52, got confussed with the stock one, and the one that goes on the g/fs cavalier.

[ChaosweaveR] · 03-13-2010, 10:13 PM

I never have that issue with Edge.

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Mike Jung · 03-14-2010, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallman56

i switched from R.P to Edge this fall for 2 reasons. first is money, and second is simply i wanted to try it. i changed my oil filter last week and when i went to add more oil, i couldnt get the cap off. had to get a screw driver and pry it up. finally when i got the cap off, there was a sludgy orangish buildup on the bottom of the cap, and the threads. i have no idea wtf caused this, but i have never ever had this happen with R.P. so needless to say i'm going back to R.P, and probably doing a engine flush as well.

oh also i either use A/C delco pf47, or Napa Gold 1036. both are oversized.

Quote:

Originally Posted by [ChaosweaveR]

I never have that issue with Edge.

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You couldn't pay me to use Royal Purple oil in my ride

Patman on BITOG & various LS1/Corvette forums had them send him free cases of Royal Purple to test.
He put it in is wife's daily driver Honda Civic (not his C5 LS1 Corvette), & that stuff sheared to sh1t !
This was shown twice using UOA (Used Oil Analysis).

I have heard of this colour before, after changing to a new type of synthetic motor oil (but not the sludge build-up).
It was the new synthetic motor oil cleaning out what was left behind from previous oils in the motor.
So, I would say that Castrol Edge has nothing to do with it causing it; but causing it to clean out your engine.
This could last for like 2 oil changes.

Metallman56 · 03-14-2010, 01:28 PM

so ur saying change the oil and go back to Edge. that makes sense but i hope you can understand my distrust. whatever the hell was on my oil cap wasnt suppose to be there. and i have a hard time believing RP could have left that much crap behind. also this didnt happen when i switched from RP to Amsoil for a little while. i had no problems with amsoil, it was just too expensive.

cardude007617 · 03-14-2010, 01:41 PM

isnt royal purple meant for high performance/high heat or built motor applications?

anyway, a lotta guys i know are switching to shell rotella t synthetic. its fairly inexpensive and uoa turn back better than most synthetics sold today. ill let mike jung chime in about it

[ChaosweaveR] · 03-14-2010, 02:01 PM

Sorry, I don't like the idea of diesel oil in my motor.

Metallman56 · 03-14-2010, 09:16 PM

ok heres the pic of the crap on my oil cap. it was done with a camera phone, as i dont take my regular camera with me when i change my oil.

11-07-2009, 09:23 PM	#41
2003SCT GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Age: 41 Posts: 1,710 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am SC/T	There seems to be a big idea going around that since Mobil1 changed their oil base stocks, they aren't as "true" of a synthetic as they once were and as a few still are. That's a really quick synopsis and I don't know how much validity to it there is but supposedly there was even a lawsuit involved. Engines and oil and filtration technology have come so far over the past 50 years that I think that as long as a person regularly changes any brand of oil and filter they will be fine. Oil and filter is one of the cheapest "mods" that anyone can do themselves and in fact "has" to do regularly and I think that's why there seems to be a pretty solid preoccupation with brand preference. CHRIS __________________ UNLV Alumni...Go Rebels! 2003 Grand Am SC/T Coupe in White. Borla Cat-Back, F/R Speedbuilt sway bars, H&R Sports/KYB, 18" Misano Lightweights wrapped in Falken FK-452 Euro-Sports and ZAINO! 2000 Chevrolet S10 Flareside: K&N Intake, Truxedo Tonneau and Gibson Cat Back

03-06-2010, 02:23 PM	#43
drumking1721 you want it AKA: Paul Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Age: 35 Posts: 1,591 Vehicle: 2000 Grand am GT Coupe	Alright question. I am at 141,000. The only oil leaking is the pan, and i need to tighten that. Should i stick with mobil 1 or switch to a high mileage oil? __________________ -Paul

03-12-2010, 03:02 PM	#46
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	You could probably run that oil to 7k, and ditch the fram... they are the worst filter on the market. Get a NAPA gold, A/C delco, or Mobil1 filter instead. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

03-12-2010, 03:43 PM	#47
lvemy3100 Im President Charley AKA: mp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: place Posts: 2,040 Vehicle: 01 car	FYI the new ac delco filters arent all that great. I got lucky and still have some older of the olders ones but I am going to use Wix/Napa Gold filters after those are gone __________________ -Mark You want more power? You need MP Racing! ------ Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the a**es of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.

03-12-2010, 07:12 PM	#49
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Interesting. I haven't used an A/C delco filter in a while so I didn't know that, but back when I used to use them they were still pretty good. Sucks for A/C delco, but I guess they figured the average person doesn't know the difference and they could save some cash. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

03-12-2010, 12:41 AM	#45
grandayumgt The Stig AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Citrus Heights, CA Age: 31 Posts: 11 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Sedan	i use castrol edge, the 15,000 mile or year interval one (but i change at 5k) ad a fram extended guard filter

03-13-2010, 02:08 AM	#50
2003SCT GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Age: 41 Posts: 1,710 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am SC/T	Haven't used one myself but I watched a testing/manufacturing video from Royal Purple on how they make their filters and it seems like a pretty impressive process. CHRIS __________________ UNLV Alumni...Go Rebels! 2003 Grand Am SC/T Coupe in White. Borla Cat-Back, F/R Speedbuilt sway bars, H&R Sports/KYB, 18" Misano Lightweights wrapped in Falken FK-452 Euro-Sports and ZAINO! 2000 Chevrolet S10 Flareside: K&N Intake, Truxedo Tonneau and Gibson Cat Back

03-13-2010, 10:14 AM	#51
[ChaosweaveR] So that's Vtec... AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Medford, NY Age: 34 Posts: 6,783 Vehicle: ‘15 Honda Accord Sport	I still use Castrol Edge. I wish they made it in a 0W-30 though. I use either Wix, Bosch, K&N or Mobil 1 filters, nothing else. __________________ 2015 Honda Accord Sport Sedan: K24W 2003 Mitsubishi Galant ES: 4G64

03-13-2010, 09:58 PM	#52
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	i switched from R.P to Edge this fall for 2 reasons. first is money, and second is simply i wanted to try it. i changed my oil filter last week and when i went to add more oil, i couldnt get the cap off. had to get a screw driver and pry it up. finally when i got the cap off, there was a sludgy orangish buildup on the bottom of the cap, and the threads. i have no idea wtf caused this, but i have never ever had this happen with R.P. so needless to say i'm going back to R.P, and probably doing a engine flush as well. oh also i either use A/C delco pf47, or Napa Gold 1036. both are oversized. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

03-13-2010, 10:04 PM	#54
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	my bad. pf52, got confussed with the stock one, and the one that goes on the g/fs cavalier. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

03-13-2010, 10:13 PM	#55
[ChaosweaveR] So that's Vtec... AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Medford, NY Age: 34 Posts: 6,783 Vehicle: ‘15 Honda Accord Sport	I never have that issue with Edge. : __________________ 2015 Honda Accord Sport Sedan: K24W 2003 Mitsubishi Galant ES: 4G64

03-14-2010, 01:28 PM	#57
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	so ur saying change the oil and go back to Edge. that makes sense but i hope you can understand my distrust. whatever the hell was on my oil cap wasnt suppose to be there. and i have a hard time believing RP could have left that much crap behind. also this didnt happen when i switched from RP to Amsoil for a little while. i had no problems with amsoil, it was just too expensive. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

03-14-2010, 01:41 PM	#58
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	isnt royal purple meant for high performance/high heat or built motor applications? anyway, a lotta guys i know are switching to shell rotella t synthetic. its fairly inexpensive and uoa turn back better than most synthetics sold today. ill let mike jung chime in about it __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

03-14-2010, 02:01 PM	#59
[ChaosweaveR] So that's Vtec... AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Medford, NY Age: 34 Posts: 6,783 Vehicle: ‘15 Honda Accord Sport	Sorry, I don't like the idea of diesel oil in my motor. __________________ 2015 Honda Accord Sport Sedan: K24W 2003 Mitsubishi Galant ES: 4G64

03-14-2010, 09:16 PM	#60
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	ok heres the pic of the crap on my oil cap. it was done with a camera phone, as i dont take my regular camera with me when i change my oil. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

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