5 speed manual transaxle

psy7 · 06-19-2010, 10:49 AM

im looking for a 5 speed manual transaxle. ive looked in junkyards and they tell me they have 5 speeds that are on the 3100 engine. now if that transaxle would fit with a 3400 i might go for that but not sure if it will

Mac0083 · 06-19-2010, 12:49 PM

pretty sure the bolt patterns are the same on both the engine blocks.

this might help you visualize it some, but this was a 6-speed. still a lot of custom mounts either way. HOW TO: Intstall a 6 speed in a GA GT

and there are others out there that have done a 5-speed.
if i was gonna go through with it, i'd do the 6speed. looks factory. can't tell it didn't come that way.
the 5speed install i've seen had the "stick" sticking out way too far to be comfortable. it looked tacky, to me anyways.
good luck though, and keep us informed on the build.

psy7 · 06-19-2010, 01:22 PM

if i find it i will keep u updated on progress i know im going to build the transmission to take a good amount of horsepower so nothing breaks

O1GAGT · 06-19-2010, 02:21 PM

Get a Getrag F23 out of a cavalier with the 2.2L OHV engine.
They share the same bell housing as a 60V6 and can take quite a bit of power.

Mac0083 · 06-19-2010, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psy7

this something i want to do to ga gt but where can i find one that goes with 3.4l engine

just trying to keep the other thread clean.

you can find the "f-40 ?" (i think that's the name of it) 6speed manual in a pontiac g6 gxp. or just search carparts.com
i've searched for them before and had no probs locating them. several things that you will definitely need to get from gmpartsdirect.com though.

psy7 · 06-19-2010, 05:45 PM

thanks i will look into these websites to find what i need it will most likely be awhile before i buy anything due other things needing paid off first

psy7 · 06-19-2010, 07:41 PM

the g6 was a front wheel drive i thought they went to rear wheel drive when that came out

young gun · 06-19-2010, 07:45 PM

you thinking G8's? b/c they are RWD

99Alero_Boy · 06-19-2010, 07:47 PM

The f40 was the FWD 6speed tranny, the f23 is also an easier swap due to axles being correct to swap right in. The getrag 282, which I am swapping in, has to have axles made for it, but after research it isn't that big of a deal and can be done in your garage like I did. The 282 has a nice array of aftermarket parts that can deal with a good amount of HP.

psy7 · 06-19-2010, 07:48 PM

k thanks for clarification i got confused,maybe i can go to the dealership and see if they have any g6 trans in stock hopefully they didnt get rid of it

99Alero_Boy · 06-19-2010, 07:52 PM

why would you go to the stealership? are they throwing in a free tub of lube with it or what?

Mac0083 · 06-19-2010, 08:16 PM

don't never go to a dealership for the big things, ($$$) that's why.
only source the smaller bits from them. save money and get the big parts used!

and Kyle, have pics of the stick installed in your center console? how does it look, how much does it stick out?

psy7 · 06-19-2010, 08:27 PM

i mean like to ask them about it they will most likely tell me to go to a junkyard but they might have something else i need but that will come at a later time

99Alero_Boy · 06-19-2010, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac0083

don't never go to a dealership for the big things, ($$$) that's why.
only source the smaller bits from them. save money and get the big parts used!

and Kyle, have pics of the stick installed in your center console? how does it look, how much does it stick out?

I don't have a pic of it with the interior pieces back in place, but it is a standard alero/grand am B&M short throw shifter. I used the 5 speed cables and bracket from an alero, so it would be no different than a normal 5 speed alero or grand am..

Mac0083 · 06-20-2010, 06:01 AM

i think the 5speed that i saw had the shifter "stick" from a cavalier/sunfire. all i know is that the thing stuck out way too far, looked totally tacky, after market, ricey

when you do get it pieced together, please put up some pics.

thanks.

psy7 · 06-21-2010, 01:13 PM

the six speed tranny what kind of modification would i have to do to the tranny

psy7 · 07-16-2010, 08:41 PM

will the bolt pattern need to be modded or are they same

stewartfn18 · 07-16-2010, 08:52 PM

read:HOW TO: Intstall a 6 speed in a GA GT

PhantomLover007 · 07-17-2010, 03:50 PM

I would still love to do this.

stewartfn18 · 07-18-2010, 07:30 PM

as would i, but i think IF i do ANYTHING else with my car, itll be the 3.4 camaro pistons, with a built trans cuz i think mines starting to slip anyway. but that wont be till its paid off and i have another vehicle to drive

06-19-2010, 10:49 AM	#1
psy7 GAGT - Member AKA: michael Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ashmore illinois Posts: 180 Vehicle: 02 grand am gt	5 speed manual transaxle im looking for a 5 speed manual transaxle. ive looked in junkyards and they tell me they have 5 speeds that are on the 3100 engine. now if that transaxle would fit with a 3400 i might go for that but not sure if it will

06-19-2010, 12:49 PM	#2
Mac0083 User account under probation AKA: Mac Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tampa Florida Age: 37 Posts: 349 Vehicle: 99 GT Coupe	pretty sure the bolt patterns are the same on both the engine blocks. this might help you visualize it some, but this was a 6-speed. still a lot of custom mounts either way. HOW TO: Intstall a 6 speed in a GA GT and there are others out there that have done a 5-speed. if i was gonna go through with it, i'd do the 6speed. looks factory. can't tell it didn't come that way. the 5speed install i've seen had the "stick" sticking out way too far to be comfortable. it looked tacky, to me anyways. good luck though, and keep us informed on the build. Last edited by Mac0083; 06-19-2010 at 12:53 PM.

06-19-2010, 02:21 PM	#4
O1GAGT GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Phil Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Age: 37 Posts: 1,107 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	Get a Getrag F23 out of a cavalier with the 2.2L OHV engine. They share the same bell housing as a 60V6 and can take quite a bit of power. __________________ "The world's best cam combined with a poor set of heads will produce an engine that's a dog. But bolt on a set of great heads even with a poor cam, and that engine will still make great power." ~John Lingenfelter

06-19-2010, 07:47 PM	#9
99Alero_Boy Oldz Sleeper AKA: Kyle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Belle Fourche, SD Age: 37 Posts: 817 Vehicle: 2001 Olds Alero GL3	The f40 was the FWD 6speed tranny, the f23 is also an easier swap due to axles being correct to swap right in. The getrag 282, which I am swapping in, has to have axles made for it, but after research it isn't that big of a deal and can be done in your garage like I did. The 282 has a nice array of aftermarket parts that can deal with a good amount of HP. __________________ Aleromod.com co-owner

06-19-2010, 07:52 PM	#11
99Alero_Boy Oldz Sleeper AKA: Kyle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Belle Fourche, SD Age: 37 Posts: 817 Vehicle: 2001 Olds Alero GL3	why would you go to the stealership? are they throwing in a free tub of lube with it or what? __________________ Aleromod.com co-owner

06-19-2010, 01:22 PM	#3
psy7 GAGT - Member AKA: michael Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ashmore illinois Posts: 180 Vehicle: 02 grand am gt	if i find it i will keep u updated on progress i know im going to build the transmission to take a good amount of horsepower so nothing breaks

06-19-2010, 05:45 PM	#6
psy7 GAGT - Member AKA: michael Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ashmore illinois Posts: 180 Vehicle: 02 grand am gt	thanks i will look into these websites to find what i need it will most likely be awhile before i buy anything due other things needing paid off first

06-19-2010, 07:41 PM	#7
psy7 GAGT - Member AKA: michael Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ashmore illinois Posts: 180 Vehicle: 02 grand am gt	the g6 was a front wheel drive i thought they went to rear wheel drive when that came out

06-19-2010, 07:45 PM	#8
young gun ON THAT WORK GRIND AKA: Erik Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 28 Posts: 1,608 Vehicle: 00' GAGT	you thinking G8's? b/c they are RWD

06-19-2010, 07:48 PM	#10
psy7 GAGT - Member AKA: michael Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ashmore illinois Posts: 180 Vehicle: 02 grand am gt	k thanks for clarification i got confused,maybe i can go to the dealership and see if they have any g6 trans in stock hopefully they didnt get rid of it

06-19-2010, 08:16 PM	#12
Mac0083 User account under probation AKA: Mac Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tampa Florida Age: 37 Posts: 349 Vehicle: 99 GT Coupe	don't never go to a dealership for the big things, ($$$) that's why. only source the smaller bits from them. save money and get the big parts used! and Kyle, have pics of the stick installed in your center console? how does it look, how much does it stick out?

06-19-2010, 08:27 PM	#13
psy7 GAGT - Member AKA: michael Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ashmore illinois Posts: 180 Vehicle: 02 grand am gt	i mean like to ask them about it they will most likely tell me to go to a junkyard but they might have something else i need but that will come at a later time

06-20-2010, 06:01 AM	#15
Mac0083 User account under probation AKA: Mac Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tampa Florida Age: 37 Posts: 349 Vehicle: 99 GT Coupe	i think the 5speed that i saw had the shifter "stick" from a cavalier/sunfire. all i know is that the thing stuck out way too far, looked totally tacky, after market, ricey when you do get it pieced together, please put up some pics. thanks.

06-21-2010, 01:13 PM	#16
psy7 GAGT - Member AKA: michael Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ashmore illinois Posts: 180 Vehicle: 02 grand am gt	the six speed tranny what kind of modification would i have to do to the tranny

07-16-2010, 08:41 PM	#17
psy7 GAGT - Member AKA: michael Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ashmore illinois Posts: 180 Vehicle: 02 grand am gt	will the bolt pattern need to be modded or are they same

07-16-2010, 08:52 PM	#18
stewartfn18 GAGT - Senior Member AKA: David Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oldsmar,FL Age: 32 Posts: 2,049 Vehicle: 04 vette, 14 R6	read:HOW TO: Intstall a 6 speed in a GA GT __________________ MODS: Not Enough

07-18-2010, 07:30 PM	#20
stewartfn18 GAGT - Senior Member AKA: David Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oldsmar,FL Age: 32 Posts: 2,049 Vehicle: 04 vette, 14 R6	as would i, but i think IF i do ANYTHING else with my car, itll be the 3.4 camaro pistons, with a built trans cuz i think mines starting to slip anyway. but that wont be till its paid off and i have another vehicle to drive __________________ MODS: Not Enough

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